Lakers fire Darvin Ham

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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#101 » by Tor_Raps » Fri May 3, 2024 8:29 pm

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You clearly didn't watch much of him then in 2 years. Good gameplanning, terrible with personnel and in-game adjustments.


Every friggin fan cries about the same crap when their team doesn't win. Bottom line is that the Lakers weren't built in a way where you can say they are better than the Nuggets.

They just lost to a better team in both years while fighting their asses off. They didn't quit and no one outside the LA market thought they'd win. Go look at Pelinka who didn't do crap at the trade deadline to address their weaknesses...


Okay let me spell it out differently for you.

NO ONE SAID THE COACH WAS THE ONLY PROBLEM, BUT HE WAS 1000% A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.

Didn't know how else to say it :D


Again... everyone cries about every coach. You guys won a title with Vogel in 2020 but he wasn't good enough after 2021 all of a sudden. Was it him or the changes in the roster and injuries?

The blame lies with the players and the person responsible for putting them together like it does 99% of the time. I promise you will be crying just as much getting to be an armchair coach next year lol.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#102 » by KembaWalker » Fri May 3, 2024 8:31 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Stupid firing... he wasn't the reason why the Lakers didn't do better. Lakers exceeded expectations last year by going to the conference finals and could have done the same thing if they didn't match up with Denver in the 1st round this year. Your best player is 39, you have 0 perimeter defense, Dlo should never be a teams 3rd option, etc.


You clearly didn't watch much of him then in 2 years. Good gameplanning, terrible with personnel and in-game adjustments.


Every friggin fan cries about the same crap when their team doesn't win. Bottom line is that the Lakers weren't built in a way where you can say they are better than the Nuggets.

They just lost to a better team in both years while fighting their asses off. They didn't quit and no one outside the LA market thought they'd win. Go look at Pelinka who didn't do crap at the trade deadline to address their weaknesses...


When all else fails, make some vague “rotations” complaint as if shuffling around some random bums minutes actually makes any difference
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#103 » by PistolPeteJR » Fri May 3, 2024 8:31 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Every friggin fan cries about the same crap when their team doesn't win. Bottom line is that the Lakers weren't built in a way where you can say they are better than the Nuggets.

They just lost to a better team in both years while fighting their asses off. They didn't quit and no one outside the LA market thought they'd win. Go look at Pelinka who didn't do crap at the trade deadline to address their weaknesses...


Okay let me spell it out differently for you.

NO ONE SAID THE COACH WAS THE ONLY PROBLEM, BUT HE WAS 1000% A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.

Didn't know how else to say it :D


Again... everyone cries about every coach. You guys won a title win Vogel in 2020 but he wasn't good enough after 2021 all of a sudden. Was it him or the changes in the roster and injuries?

The blame lies with the players and the person responsible for putting them together like it does 99% of the time. I promise you will be crying just as much getting to be an armchair coach next year lol.


You can generalize all you want. At the end of the day, just like with us Raps fans, not all fans sing the same chorus.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#104 » by Effigy » Fri May 3, 2024 8:49 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:Expected.

Though I do consider the reports saying Lue is a candidate, when he has a freakin game tonight, is entirely disrespectful. But that’s media.


It's also out of touch. Lue has another year on his contract. Reportedly they wouldn't let him out of it last year they sure aren't doing it this year so he can go the Lakers.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#105 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Fri May 3, 2024 9:01 pm

Bring back Phil Jackson
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#106 » by jkvonny » Fri May 3, 2024 9:04 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Bring back Phil Jackson

This.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#107 » by bb22 » Fri May 3, 2024 9:05 pm

Lakers were a good team. Their roster was solid. They gambled on Woods and Hayes, which was a mistake they should have fixed earlier in the season. They had injuries all year which messed with their chemistry and Bron/AD were lazy after the mid season tournament.

The coaching was bad. Everyone who watched their games could see it. From their prep, lineups, in-game adjustments, player motivation. I’m sure Darvin has many good qualities, but coaching the Lakers with Lebron was not an ideal first HC job, and he just wasn’t ready for it. The assistants weren’t very good either, and you need some solid veteran assistant coaches to help a first time HC.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#108 » by Ice Trae » Fri May 3, 2024 9:13 pm

I guess you can say they…. Canned Ham
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#109 » by seren » Fri May 3, 2024 9:13 pm

Lakers should instead fire the 2020s and the time of passage.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#110 » by GopherIt! » Fri May 3, 2024 9:19 pm

you can indict a ham sandwich or roast a ham coach.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#111 » by PistolPeteJR » Fri May 3, 2024 9:33 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
You clearly didn't watch much of him then in 2 years. Good gameplanning, terrible with personnel and in-game adjustments.


Every friggin fan cries about the same crap when their team doesn't win. Bottom line is that the Lakers weren't built in a way where you can say they are better than the Nuggets.

They just lost to a better team in both years while fighting their asses off. They didn't quit and no one outside the LA market thought they'd win. Go look at Pelinka who didn't do crap at the trade deadline to address their weaknesses...


When all else fails, make some vague “rotations” complaint as if shuffling around some random bums minutes actually makes any difference


Strong generalization and assumption dude keep it up
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#112 » by NyKnicks1714 » Fri May 3, 2024 9:40 pm

They fired the entire coaching staff. I'm shocked they fired Phil Handy. Maybe there are reasons for it but that seems like a huge mistake.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#113 » by CobraCommander » Fri May 3, 2024 9:44 pm

jkvonny wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Bring back Phil Jackson

This.

Phil requires you have the best player on earth and a top 5 player to coach your team.

So get Jokic and SGA- the new Kobe Shaq

Or Get Luka and Giannis - the new MJ and Pippen -
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#114 » by The Laker Kid » Fri May 3, 2024 9:55 pm

They should make Lebron the next coach, then fire him after 1 season. Fantastic way to get him off the team without the bad optics.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#115 » by 10DayContract » Fri May 3, 2024 9:57 pm

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DLoMor wrote:Budenholzer or Atkinson, not Lue, Lakers will have the same issues if it is Lue.


Atkinson lost the battle with his stars and Bud is notorious for being stubborn and not adjusting from his game plan in the POs. Aren't these the knocks on Ham? How are they preferred to Lue, the guys who 1) has Lebron's respect and 2) is regarded as a creative play caller and top in-game tactician?


Lol. Ham is literally from Bud's coaching tree. Hiring Bud does nothing.

This is a f**king joke. We're an 8 seed cause that how good we are. No coach saves this team, and it's been like that for about 10 years now. There is NO GENIUS COACH who can save this team.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#116 » by zimpy27 » Fri May 3, 2024 9:59 pm

Dude was a dud.
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#117 » by canada_dry » Fri May 3, 2024 10:02 pm

Awful coach.

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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#118 » by MrGoat » Fri May 3, 2024 10:04 pm

Recycled LeBron coaches sometimes work out later. Mike Brown, Ty Lue, my guess is yes
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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#119 » by DonaldSanders » Fri May 3, 2024 10:05 pm

Effigy wrote:Has a coach ever been fired the season after winning the in-season tournament???


Honestly it's kind of weird/confusing that the Lakers hung a banner for the IST, making it seem like they value the IST, but then dump Ham. Firing him makes it seem like they don't actually value the banner they hung. It's right there mixed in with their postseason banners!

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Re: Lakers fire Darvin Ham 

Post#120 » by infinite11285 » Fri May 3, 2024 10:06 pm

xchange55 wrote:
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Loneshot wrote:He had some really questionable lineups. Though the Lakers overachieved still.


Benching Reaves and DLo for 15+ games during the season is the exact moment he lost the locker room.


But when Reaves and DLO aren't playing well you'll blame them for the losses. Can't have it both ways.


Huh? Sure you can. A head coach's job is to put their team in the best position to win. Benching your best guard rotation that got you to the WCF doesn't achieve that.

When those players don't show up and lose, you can blame them too.

Both are true.

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