Denver reporter: Nuggets may need to break up the team

shrink · Post #121 » by **shrink** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:04 pm

FWIW, while I don’t agree with breaking up the Nuggets, I wanted to point out that the DNVR guys are legit, not like the national media just trying to generate click-bait.

srhcan · Post #122 » by **srhcan** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:11 pm

They are paying too much for MPJ. They need to trade him and get pieces which fit more.

srhcan · Post #123 » by **srhcan** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:14 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Moahst wrote:Classic overreaction. I'd trade MPJr for two more balanced wings or a young PG prospect.
MPJ has one of the worst max contracts in the NBA. I'm not sure what team would give you 2 young wings.

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I think it would be your team Magic :lol:

raleigh · Post #124 » by **raleigh** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:21 pm

Moahst wrote:Classic overreaction. I'd trade MPJr for two more balanced wings or a young PG prospect.

I've been expecting Atlanta to pursue MPJ at some point in an effort to keep Trae content. Hunter is a lesser player but costs less, too.

NyKnicks1714 · Post #125 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:32 pm

I don't think they'll ever trade Murray, so it's pretty much MPJ, two firsts (2027, 2031), and pick swaps. Braun has some value too. It's not a bad trade package at all, but don't think any return would be enough to contend with OKC and MIN in the next few years.

TheFire · Post #126 » by **TheFire** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:38 pm

If I'm the Cavs, I go all in and find a way to pair Mitchell and Mobley with Jokic.

AleksandarN · Post #127 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:40 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Cause they down 0-2 …. It’s over - they didn’t win a ring last year and don’t have a 3 time mvp…. So yeah break and try to get Beal for Jokic.

Denver gonna have to sweeten the deal with picks…

Last year was an asterisk chip, as were the 3 MVPs.

CobraCommander · Post #128 » by **CobraCommander** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:47 pm

AleksandarN wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Cause they down 0-2 …. It’s over - they didn’t win a ring last year and don’t have a 3 time mvp…. So yeah break and try to get Beal for Jokic.

Denver gonna have to sweeten the deal with picks…

Last year was an asterisk chip, as were the 3 MVPs.

HotRocks34 · Post #129 » by **HotRocks34** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:50 pm

shrink wrote:FWIW, while I don’t agree with breaking up the Nuggets, I wanted to point out that the DNVR guys are legit, not like the national media just trying to generate click-bait.

They're totally legit, especially Mares (who made this remark)

Special_Puppy · Post #130 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:50 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I don't think they'll ever trade Murray, so it's pretty much MPJ, two firsts (2027, 2031), and pick swaps. Braun has some value too. It's not a bad trade package at all, but don't think any return would be enough to contend with OKC and MIN in the next few years.

Everyone but Jokic+AG should be on the table.

AleksandarN · Post #131 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:53 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Last year was an asterisk chip, as were the 3 MVPs.

Why stop the count there.
I count:

2 conference finals to zero
1 finals appearances to zero
1 fmvp to zero
1 conference mvp to zero
1 championships to zero
3 MVPs to 1
3 all nba first teams to 1

TheShow2021 · Post #132 » by **TheShow2021** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:55 pm

GeorgeSears wrote:The problem with Mares is that he embodies this doomer mentality that Nuggets fans have had for 3-4 years now. We were hearing calls to get rid of Murray and MPJ two years ago because of their health problems. I'm glad that didn't happen.

They easily would have won last year without Murray and MPJ even if that $70 million was poorly spent.

AleksandarN · Post #133 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:56 pm

HotRocks34 wrote:
shrink wrote:FWIW, while I don’t agree with breaking up the Nuggets, I wanted to point out that the DNVR guys are legit, not like the national media just trying to generate click-bait.

They're totally legit, especially Mares (who made this remark)

He didn’t say break the team up though. Retooling maybe if they fail in this fashion by getting swept.

NyKnicks1714 · Post #134 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:57 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:I don't think they'll ever trade Murray, so it's pretty much MPJ, two firsts (2027, 2031), and pick swaps. Braun has some value too. It's not a bad trade package at all, but don't think any return would be enough to contend with OKC and MIN in the next few years.

Everyone but Jokic+AG should be on the table.

Maybe, but I think they'll be too loyal to Murray. Malone would fight to keep him for sure unless there was a deal too good to pass up.

Would be cool to see something crazy happen like an MPJ for KD deal.

Joao Saraiva · Post #135 » by **Joao Saraiva** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:58 pm

Let's pretend they really can't beat the Wolves, not this year and not the next.

Don't blow it up. Keep being a top team and wait your chance. Another team might eliminate the Wolves. There might be an injury.

You keep going far and hope that one year things go your way.

You don't blow a championship team with a player like Jokic. Nuggets aren't the Lakers or something who can acquire top talent here and there. They have Jokic, they ride Jokic and try to make small moves to improve the team.

CobraCommander · Post #136 » by **CobraCommander** » Wed May 8, 2024 4:59 pm

AleksandarN wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:

Why stop the count there.
I count:

2 conference finals to zero
1 finals appearances to zero
1 fmvp to zero
1 conference mvp to zero
1 championships to zero
3 MVPs to 1
3 all nba first teams to 1

Wait 4 MVPs to zero - We not pretending that Embiid is an MVP- Not on RealGM

TheShow2021 · Post #137 » by **TheShow2021** » Wed May 8, 2024 5:00 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:
Everyone but Jokic+AG should be on the table.

AG in the dunker's spot is sabotaging Jokic for a few key matchups. They can double Jokic without getting hurt by AG. In those matchups they would be much better offensively with a guy who could simply hit a wide open corner 3. He absolutely has to go as more teams evolve to this emerging meta. He and Jamal are the two guys I am trading first.

The Hypnotoad · Post #138 » by **The Hypnotoad** » Wed May 8, 2024 5:05 pm

Denver just needs 2 solid bench/role player guys with size and shooting capabilities. Maybe 1 small spark plug guy too. New cap rules may prevent them from getting those types though.

Raps in 4 · Post #139 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed May 8, 2024 5:08 pm

They need more talent. Trade a bunch of picks for a reliable second option.

bstein14 · Post #140 » by **bstein14** » Wed May 8, 2024 5:10 pm

They are already in the tax before resigning KCP they likely will need to move MPJ for a cheaper contract.

Detroit is obviously desperate I wonder Denver would take on Stewart for MPJ, or if they'd want Stewart + Ivey.

I doubt Detroit would give up both but I could see them moving one to add a legit scorer like MPJ to a team desperate to add talent.