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Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 2:53 am
by mdonnelly1989
Now that Jokic won it.

Who do you think was more valuable between these two?

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 3:11 am
by CobraCommander
SGA was ahead of Luka in the MVP voting twice in a row and neither one of them was close to the winner.

Luka is one of the two best scorers in the league - Luka and Embiid-

SGA is the best 2 two way player and still avg 30 a game and the number 1 seed on the second youngest team in NBA.

Avg age of OKC is 23 and SGA at 25 got them in first in the west…

I think getting number 1 in the west meant a lot for getting SGA 15 first place over Lukas 4

It wasnt close - between these two in voting

Kinda hard not to vote for SGA over Luka even tho I think they are as close as Giannis and Jokic were before Jokic ascended last year to the best of a generation.

Funny thing is - SGA is much more consistent than Luka because SGA brings defense and leadership every night and Luka doesn’t.

But Luka’s best game might be the best game ever… so his maximum best is better than anything SGA can bring.

It’s too close between these two!

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 3:13 am
by Primedeion
Luka has a great case if you ignore defense, efficiency, team success, and pretty much all of the +/- numbers.

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 3:15 am
by Chuck Everett
SGA was more deserving.

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 4:33 am
by mdonnelly1989
CobraCommander wrote:SGA was ahead of Luka in the MVP voting twice in a row and neither one of them was close to the winner.

Luka is one of the two best scorers in the league - Luka and Embiid-

SGA is the best 2 two way player and still avg 30 a game and the number 1 seed on the second youngest team in NBA.

Avg age of OKC is 23 and SGA at 25 got them in first in the west…

I think getting number 1 in the west meant a lot for getting SGA 15 first place over Lukas 4

It wasnt close - between these two in voting

Kinda hard not to vote for SGA over Luka even tho I think they are as close as Giannis and Jokic were before Jokic ascended last year to the best of a generation.

Funny thing is - SGA is much more consistent than Luka because SGA brings defense and leadership every night and Luka doesn’t.

But Luka’s best game might be the best game ever… so his maximum best is better than anything SGA can bring.

Its too close between these two!


Agree!

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 4:53 pm
by mdonnelly1989
Primedeion wrote:Luka has a great case if you ignore defense, efficiency, team success, and pretty much all of the +/- numbers.


What really is the case for Luka?

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 4:58 pm
by GSWFan1994
I'm voting for Luka because he's the most beautiful out of the two.

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 5:15 pm
by Dadouv47
Shai He was most consistent and helped the Thunder win the most games...Luka had the best performances though

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 5:45 pm
by Astaluego
vote for Luka, although I'll admit I'm biased here... it really comes down to the fact that I think the best version of Luka is a higher ceiling than SGA

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Thu May 9, 2024 5:47 pm
by JustBuzzin
It was close, but I gave the slight edge to Luka because SGA got hurt towards the end of the season.

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:19 am
by mdonnelly1989
JustBuzzin wrote:It was close, but I gave the slight edge to Luka because SGA got hurt towards the end of the season.


Mhmm

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:30 am
by MrGoat
Luka Doncic averaged 27.1 points if you took free throws away. Michael Jordan never hit that number. When you combine his points and assists he became the first player in NBA history to account for over 57 points per game. Kyrie missed about 20 games with injury early in the season which hurt their record and his advanced stats, too

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:35 am
by Patches Perry
CobraCommander wrote:SGA was ahead of Luka in the MVP voting twice in a row and neither one of them was close to the winner.

Luka is one of the two best scorers in the league - Luka and Embiid-

SGA is the best 2 two way player and still avg 30 a game and the number 1 seed on the second youngest team in NBA.

Avg age of OKC is 23 and SGA at 25 got them in first in the west…

I think getting number 1 in the west meant a lot for getting SGA 15 first place over Lukas 4

It wasnt close - between these two in voting

Kinda hard not to vote for SGA over Luka even tho I think they are as close as Giannis and Jokic were before Jokic ascended last year to the best of a generation.

Funny thing is - SGA is much more consistent than Luka because SGA brings defense and leadership every night and Luka doesn’t.

But Luka’s best game might be the best game ever… so his maximum best is better than anything SGA can bring.

It’s too close between these two!


Good post. Luka's willingness and ability to shoot the three ball makes his ceiling game much higher than Shai. Shai will play the same game over and over and over on both ends and just doesn't shoot threes. He attacks the hoop relentlessly every single time (also why he gets a lot of free throws). Luka will shoot threes and score 60-70. I don't think Shai has ever even scored 45 despite being a truly elite scorer.

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:37 am
by Wolveswin
Suns should have both players. Same draft. Ugh

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:40 am
by dhsilv2
I know people won't like this, but Luka is more valuable to his team. But if I look at the MVP history, SGA would get my vote due to team success and similar level of play. But the mavs just aren't in the playoffs without Luka.

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:45 am
by CobraCommander
Patches Perry wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:SGA was ahead of Luka in the MVP voting twice in a row and neither one of them was close to the winner.

Luka is one of the two best scorers in the league - Luka and Embiid-

SGA is the best 2 two way player and still avg 30 a game and the number 1 seed on the second youngest team in NBA.

Avg age of OKC is 23 and SGA at 25 got them in first in the west…

I think getting number 1 in the west meant a lot for getting SGA 15 first place over Lukas 4

It wasnt close - between these two in voting

Kinda hard not to vote for SGA over Luka even tho I think they are as close as Giannis and Jokic were before Jokic ascended last year to the best of a generation.

Funny thing is - SGA is much more consistent than Luka because SGA brings defense and leadership every night and Luka doesn’t.

But Luka’s best game might be the best game ever… so his maximum best is better than anything SGA can bring.

It’s too close between these two!


Good post. Luka's willingness and ability to shoot the three ball makes his ceiling game much higher than Shai. Shai will play the same game over and over and over on both ends and just doesn't shoot threes. He attacks the hoop relentlessly every single time (also why he gets a lot of free throws). Luka will shoot threes and score 60-70. I don't think Shai has ever even scored 45 despite being a truly elite scorer.

I think sga has a better chance of winning more than Luka because of this. The fluky streaky 3 makes him capable of scoring 70 efficiently or 30 inefficiently on the same shots lol

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:45 am
by Apz
Cant go by teamsuccess when 1 team is healthy all season and the other isnt. Not like it was a giant gap between the teams. Heard the numbers but cang remember exactly. Something like mavs starting 5 had 150 posessions together in rs and okc had 1700. And add mavs actually putting their g-league team out there the last 2 games while okc kept running their starters

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 8:13 am
by lonzo_pelota
Im gonna go with Ex Clipper SGA

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 1:05 pm
by Mr. Perfect
Luka was more valuable to his team than Shai was to OKC. OKC can win without Shai, Dallas doesn't really do much winning without Luka.

Re: Who was more valuable Luka or Shai during the regular season?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 4:03 pm
by hagredionis
Luka 33.9 ppg / 9.8 apg / 9.2 rpg
SGA 30.1 ppg / 6.2 apg / 5.5 rpg

The numbers are clear.