2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #1 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Fri May 10, 2024 12:10 pm

I won't say I agree or disagree with Tatum. All I will say is this, I don't like how he said it. It sounded like he was setting up an excuse in case they lose. Everyone has their own definition of super team. What do you think of this Celtics roster?

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nbanfldeg · Post #2 » by **nbanfldeg** » Fri May 10, 2024 12:19 pm

Far from a superteam. A starting 5 that was very well put together and a middling bench.

art_tatum · Post #3 » by **art_tatum** » Fri May 10, 2024 12:21 pm

Two max super stars and ultimate glue guy joined by superstar unicorn.

Tatum = curry
Brown = klay
White = green
Unicorn = KD

Sure checks out :lol:

I'm still not sure they have a legit mvp 1st option

ChiTownHero1992 · Post #4 » by **ChiTownHero1992** » Fri May 10, 2024 12:34 pm

IMO no....close but not quite....they are a team made up of many teams #2 or #3 options for sure but i've always said that a superteam is minimum 3 guys that individually could lead their team. Brown, White, Porzingus and Holiday are not leading a team alone....They are a "super-team-lite" lol

In terms of comics for anyone who follows and thinks in those terms:
Super Teams - Avengers, Justice League, X-Men
Celtics this year are more like the Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy, Defenders, etc teams made up of "good" pieces but not "the best"

Raptor_Guy · Post #5 » by **Raptor_Guy** » Fri May 10, 2024 12:45 pm

No because they were put together organically, the whole point of the term super team was the idea of all star friends getting together like the Heat.

Movics · Post #6 » by **Movics** » Fri May 10, 2024 12:46 pm

I thought they had the “best starting lineup in the past 25 years.” Are you guys saying BS was wrong and biased again? Color me surprised

Post #7 » by **Harry Garris** » Fri May 10, 2024 1:36 pm

At this point I give up trying to understand what y’all are talking about when you say “super team”. You guys are all over the place.

Based on the definition that THIS very forum has used to define what a “super team” is the 2023-2024 Boston Celtics are a super team. During this past offseason they went out and acquired multiple all star players from other teams to add to their roster that already included a star (two, in their case). That has quite literally been the defining criteria for what a super team is according to the RealGM general board in the past.

So what gives? What’s the exception? Other franchises go out and acquire multiple star players during the offseason to supplement their home grown star? Super team. The Boston Celtics do it? Not a super team. Can someone explain to me the loophole in this imaginary ruleset that excludes this years Celtics?

jkvonny · Post #8 » by **jkvonny** » Fri May 10, 2024 2:12 pm

This superteam debate/crap again?

No. Boston is mostly organically built.

You're gettin confused with those teamed up buddy teams of the past. LeBron/Bosh/Wade Heatles teams ( they were supposed to win 8 Championships), DHoward/Kobe/Nash Lakers team, etc

BrooklynDynasty · Post #9 » by **BrooklynDynasty** » Fri May 10, 2024 2:20 pm

how can they be a superteam and not have the best player on the floor in round 2, 3, and definitely not in the finals?

Bobbymcgee · Post #10 » by **Bobbymcgee** » Fri May 10, 2024 2:25 pm

They are the Tobias Harris of super teams.

Rancid669 · Post #11 » by **Rancid669** » Fri May 10, 2024 2:48 pm

No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?

jkvonny · Post #12 » by **jkvonny** » Fri May 10, 2024 2:56 pm

Rancid669 wrote:No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?

Who in this thread is blaming the Heat?

Rancid669 · Post #13 » by **Rancid669** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:14 pm

jkvonny wrote:
Rancid669 wrote:No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?

Who in this thread is blaming the Heat?

Maybe not “blaming” but that’s who most people seem to point to first when discussing super teams. And i’m not talking just in this thread, either.

JustBuzzin · Post #14 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:15 pm

Superteam?

LMAO buddy thinks he's LeBron or something. Nothing super about the Celtics. They lucky Giannis and Dame got injured.

Raptor_Guy · Post #15 » by **Raptor_Guy** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:17 pm

Harry Garris wrote:At this point I give up trying to understand what y’all are talking about when you say “super team”. You guys are all over the place.

Based on the definition that THIS very forum has used to define what a “super team” is the 2023-2024 Boston Celtics are a super team. During this past offseason they went out and acquired multiple all star players from other teams to add to their roster that already included a star (two, in their case). That has quite literally been the defining criteria for what a super team is according to the RealGM general board in the past.

So what gives? What’s the exception? Other franchises go out and acquire multiple star players during the offseason to supplement their home grown star? Super team. The Boston Celtics do it? Not a super team. Can someone explain to me the loophole in this imaginary ruleset that excludes this years Celtics?

I guess the difference is that Holiday and Porzingis didn't force their way to Boston after being recruited by Celtics players. I think most people's definition of a super team is that they are mostly premeditated and manufactured by star players. Also Holiday and Porzingis aren't as flashy as stars like Durant, Anthony Davis, Kyrie etc.

jkvonny · Post #16 » by **jkvonny** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:20 pm

Rancid669 wrote:
jkvonny wrote:
Rancid669 wrote:No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?

Who in this thread is blaming the Heat?

Maybe not “blaming” but that’s who most people seem to point to first when discussing super teams. And i’m not talking just in this thread, either.

True. Folks also forget the Barkley/Pippin/Hakeem Rockets team during the mid - late 90s as well.

Bornstellar · Post #17 » by **Bornstellar** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:21 pm

Regardless of whether they were "built or bought" I believe in terms of talent they are a super team. Their SL features 4 all star level players and one borderline all star plus a former all star in Horford.

If you're asking are they a manufactured super team like the Heatles then no. But in terms of talent I believe they are

Petergrifindor · Post #18 » by **Petergrifindor** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:23 pm

Yes.

They have a superb team this year.

Special_Puppy · Post #19 » by **Special_Puppy** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:47 pm

How are they not a Superteam? 4th highest net rating in NBA history! https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/largest-net-rating-by-a-nba-team-in-a-season

Wigginstime · Post #20 » by **Wigginstime** » Fri May 10, 2024 4:09 pm

Can we call them an upside down super team....

They basically have one of the best #3 - #8 rosters in league history.

The problem is their #1 and #2 in Tatum and Brown simply doesn't compare to all of the those elite duos associated with super teams

Who would honestly take Tatum & Brown over
Lebron/Wade
Steph/Durant
Shaq/Kobe
Jordan/Pippen
Magic/Kareem
Duncan/Parker

Yes - the current Celtics are an all time great regular season team with probably the best #3 - #8 rotation of players in league history. Playoffs are all about your #1 and #2 stars and the Js simply don't stack up with what is typically thought of in regards to super teams.