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Antman is in great company
I realize that PER is a somewhat dumb stat when comparing across eras, but I think that it's still impressive that Ant is in some good company for playoffs at age 22.
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James (3rd year) - 23.9
Anthony Edwards (3rd year) - 28.1
Michael Jordan (rookie) - 24.7
He also had an awesome showing in last year's playoffs.
Pretty damned impressive, especially for someone who doesn't play point-scorer.
The future is bright for this young man
Am I missing anyone who might have a PER of 23 or higher?
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James (3rd year) - 23.9
Anthony Edwards (3rd year) - 28.1
Michael Jordan (rookie) - 24.7
He also had an awesome showing in last year's playoffs.
Pretty damned impressive, especially for someone who doesn't play point-scorer.
The future is bright for this young man
Am I missing anyone who might have a PER of 23 or higher?
https://undisputedgoat.medium.com/jordan-in-the-clutch-30f6e7ed4c43
LBJ clutch- 19 of 104 career: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895
LBJ clutch- 19 of 104 career: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895
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bledredwine wrote:Am I missing anyone who might have a PER of 23 or higher?
For just age 22 and postseason: Luka, Shaq, Duncan, Durant, Paul. Depending on the specific year, maybe Kobe, Jokic, Davis, Dirk, KG, Mcgrady, Irving, Stoudemire.
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bledredwine wrote:I realize that PER is a somewhat dumb stat when comparing across eras, but I think that it's still impressive that Ant is in some good company for playoffs at age 22.
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James - 23.9
Anthony Edwards - 26.8
Michael Jordan - 30.1
He also had an awesome showing in last year's playoffs.
Pretty damned impressive, especially for someone who doesn't play point-scorer.
The future is bright for this young man
Am I missing anyone who might have a PER of 23 or higher?
You quoted Jordan at 23, at 22 he had a PER of 24.7
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James - 23.9 (got to Finals)
Anthony Edwards - 26.8 (2nd round so far)
Michael Jordan - 24.7 (got to first round)
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I think what I like the most about him is attitude and the way he seems to treat situations with grace and maturity, if even while being a bamf. I imagine he has a strong support group.
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When your company is Towns and Gobert, then no he's not.
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Jokic misses the cutoff cause his first playoff was at age 23 but he had a PER of 29.6 that playoffs.
UglyBugBall wrote:Jokic is a guy that needs a superstar like Murray to make his game work.
To me he is the third best player in the NBA - Luka and Embiid are comfortably ahead of him.
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SweaterBae wrote:I think what I like the most about him is attitude and the way he seems to treat situations with grace and maturity, if even while being a bamf. I imagine he has a strong support group.
He absolutely has not treated this loss with grace and maturity.
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Tatum was 24.1 at 22 but was only first round.
He took a game off the KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets with a staring lineup of Kemba, Smart, Fournier and Tristan Thompson with Romeo Langford as the 6th man.
He took a game off the KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets with a staring lineup of Kemba, Smart, Fournier and Tristan Thompson with Romeo Langford as the 6th man.
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AussieCeltic wrote:Tatum was 24.1 at 22 but was only first round.
He took a game off the KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets with a staring lineup of Kemba, Smart, Fournier and Tristan Thompson with Romeo Langford as the 6th man.
Can’t believe he didn’t get further with such a stacked roster.
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Jaqua92 wrote:SweaterBae wrote:I think what I like the most about him is attitude and the way he seems to treat situations with grace and maturity, if even while being a bamf. I imagine he has a strong support group.
He absolutely has not treated this loss with grace and maturity.
What did I miss? He seemed incredibly even keeled in his post game interview.
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Love Ant. Literally could not have done more this playoffs, win or lose. Barely old enough to drink a beer in the US. He’s a bonafide star now.
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He's won me over these playoffs, the sky is the limit for him.
Also, who cares about losing with grace? On the court, he's competitive and oozes confidence. Off the court, he's honest and authentic. I love everything about him.
Also, who cares about losing with grace? On the court, he's competitive and oozes confidence. Off the court, he's honest and authentic. I love everything about him.
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Gatorade Sax wrote:Love Ant. Literally could not have done more this playoffs, win or lose. Barely old enough to drink a beer in the US. He’s a bonafide star now.
He literally could have made every single shot he's taken.
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SweaterBae wrote:Gatorade Sax wrote:Love Ant. Literally could not have done more this playoffs, win or lose. Barely old enough to drink a beer in the US. He’s a bonafide star now.
He literally could have made every single shot he's taken.
Let’s be reasonable mate.
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Gatorade Sax wrote:SweaterBae wrote:Gatorade Sax wrote:Love Ant. Literally could not have done more this playoffs, win or lose. Barely old enough to drink a beer in the US. He’s a bonafide star now.
He literally could have made every single shot he's taken.
Let’s be reasonable mate.
He literally could have played better.
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SweaterBae wrote:Gatorade Sax wrote:SweaterBae wrote:
He literally could have made every single shot he's taken.
Let’s be reasonable mate.
He literally could have played better.
You’ve literally made a quarter of the posts in this thread, and they’ve all missed.
Move on.
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zimpy27 wrote:bledredwine wrote:I realize that PER is a somewhat dumb stat when comparing across eras, but I think that it's still impressive that Ant is in some good company for playoffs at age 22.
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James - 23.9
Anthony Edwards - 26.8
Michael Jordan - 30.1
He also had an awesome showing in last year's playoffs.
Pretty damned impressive, especially for someone who doesn't play point-scorer.
The future is bright for this young man
Am I missing anyone who might have a PER of 23 or higher?
You quoted Jordan at 23, at 22 he had a PER of 24.7
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James - 23.9 (got to Finals)
Anthony Edwards - 26.8 (2nd round so far)
Michael Jordan - 24.7 (got to first round)
On basketball reference, next to 22 it lists "30.1". I listed that for Lebron/Jordan/Ant without realizing that Jordan
would have turned 22 by the playoffs.
Fixed.
Listing 1st round 2nd round would be stupid since it takes time for GM's to build a team around a player and MJ was a rookie, not to mention how awful the eastern conference was in Lebron's run anyway. This is a thread about individual stats and ANT's development as a player.
We list those things when a career is over, because by then, you will have witnessed the players having a team built around them and how well they were able to carry those teams.
https://undisputedgoat.medium.com/jordan-in-the-clutch-30f6e7ed4c43
LBJ clutch- 19 of 104 career: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895
LBJ clutch- 19 of 104 career: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895
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in his draft year...i saw his shooting %'s in college and i thought "he aint gonna make it"
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Gatorade Sax wrote:SweaterBae wrote:Gatorade Sax wrote:
Let’s be reasonable mate.
He literally could have played better.
You’ve literally made a quarter of the posts in this thread, and they’ve all missed.
Move on.
No, he makes a solid point. All players can play better and he took some very, very low-IQ shots down the stretch.
He also can work on distributing the ball for easy Gobert dunks, instead he 1v5 repeatedly. He's the Michael Jordan of Donovan Mitchells.
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bledredwine wrote:zimpy27 wrote:bledredwine wrote:I realize that PER is a somewhat dumb stat when comparing across eras, but I think that it's still impressive that Ant is in some good company for playoffs at age 22.
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James - 23.9
Anthony Edwards - 26.8
Michael Jordan - 30.1
He also had an awesome showing in last year's playoffs.
Pretty damned impressive, especially for someone who doesn't play point-scorer.
The future is bright for this young man
Am I missing anyone who might have a PER of 23 or higher?
You quoted Jordan at 23, at 22 he had a PER of 24.7
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James - 23.9 (got to Finals)
Anthony Edwards - 26.8 (2nd round so far)
Michael Jordan - 24.7 (got to first round)
On basketball reference, next to 22 it lists "30.1". I listed that for Lebron/Jordan/Ant without realizing that Jordan
would have turned 22 by the playoffs.
Fixed.
Listing 1st round 2nd round would be stupid since it takes time for GM's to build a team around a player and MJ was a rookie, not to mention how awful the eastern conference was in Lebron's run anyway. This is a thread about individual stats and ANT's development as a player.
We list those things when a career is over, because by then, you will have witnessed the players having a team built around them and how well they were able to carry those teams.
Well context matters because going against first round teams is different to finals teams. The data is skewed
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