Who has a bigger impact on the Hornets CP3 or Chandler?
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Who has a bigger impact on the Hornets CP3 or Chandler?
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Who has a bigger impact on the Hornets CP3 or Chandler?
So my bro and I got in an argument earlier and he says that Chandler has a bigger impact on the Hornets than CP3, who I believe is why the Hornets are holding the #1 spot in the west. Is he right or is he out of his mind? LOL
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While a good post defender and rebounder can do wonders for a team, Paul is the catalyst of the offense and dominates the ball. He's the guy that makes everything happen offensively, and that is what has been getting wins. His pick-and-roll and drive and kick game has gotten teammates open looks, and with a healthy Peja and the addition of Peterson, that means big time 3 point shots.
To sum it up: Paul = offense, and offense = why they are winning.
To sum it up: Paul = offense, and offense = why they are winning.
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Paul is the #1 player on that team, but Hornets aren't best in the West with Melvin Ely or Hilton Armstrong anchoring the D.
On a scale of biggest impact to least Paul has the impact on their success, but their success this year is because of the great chemistry possessed by Paul, Chandler, Peja and West playing together.
On a scale of biggest impact to least Paul has the impact on their success, but their success this year is because of the great chemistry possessed by Paul, Chandler, Peja and West playing together.
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NO-KG-AI wrote:Sorry, your brother is a moron, no offense.
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NO-KG-AI wrote:Sorry, your brother is a moron, no offense.
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David West is far more important than Chandler as well.
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Well call me crazy (You're CRAZY!) but I do think Chandler has a big impact on the Hornets success. I'm not going to say that it's equal to Paul's but it's impact is beyond the stats.
Watching the game tonight I heard that Paul and Chandler lead the league in alley oop dunks. In the Spurs broadcast of the game they showed a play that the Hornets like to run that had Paul and Chandler run a pick and roll at the top of the key and West is on the left angle and Peja is in the left corner. It showed that it's almost an unstoppable play that results in a lot of alley oops for Chandler.
My point is would that play be as effective if you run it with Hilton Armstrong in Chandlers place. Would the Hornets still be winning without Chandler.
I think it's very similar to Lakers without Bynum. I think Bynum is better than Chandler but they both bring a lot of similar qualities. Look at the Lakers without Bynum and having Kwame at C. Rebounding, shot blocking, interior defense suffers. Those alley oops don't come as easy because not every big man can handle that.
I saw a game about a month ago when the Toronto played the Hornets in NO. It may be one game but it seems indicative of what the Hornets could expect without Chandler. Tyson fouled out with the Hornets up 84-81 with 5 minutes left in the game. The whole complexion of the game changed; they didn't have anyone who could match up with Bosh. He dominated the rest of the game.
In those last 5 minutes Bosh drove for 2 layups and then got fouled twice by Armstrong on two other possessions. They could not stop Bosh.
I don't think they would miss Chandler as much on the offensive end but it would be the defensive end where they would be hurting...........
Watching the game tonight I heard that Paul and Chandler lead the league in alley oop dunks. In the Spurs broadcast of the game they showed a play that the Hornets like to run that had Paul and Chandler run a pick and roll at the top of the key and West is on the left angle and Peja is in the left corner. It showed that it's almost an unstoppable play that results in a lot of alley oops for Chandler.
My point is would that play be as effective if you run it with Hilton Armstrong in Chandlers place. Would the Hornets still be winning without Chandler.
I think it's very similar to Lakers without Bynum. I think Bynum is better than Chandler but they both bring a lot of similar qualities. Look at the Lakers without Bynum and having Kwame at C. Rebounding, shot blocking, interior defense suffers. Those alley oops don't come as easy because not every big man can handle that.
I saw a game about a month ago when the Toronto played the Hornets in NO. It may be one game but it seems indicative of what the Hornets could expect without Chandler. Tyson fouled out with the Hornets up 84-81 with 5 minutes left in the game. The whole complexion of the game changed; they didn't have anyone who could match up with Bosh. He dominated the rest of the game.
In those last 5 minutes Bosh drove for 2 layups and then got fouled twice by Armstrong on two other possessions. They could not stop Bosh.
I don't think they would miss Chandler as much on the offensive end but it would be the defensive end where they would be hurting...........
I'm so tired of the typical......
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The thing is, Chandler isn't that good of a defender, he's good, but he's certainly not great, he's a decent man defender and a decent shotblocker, but even West is a better post defender, and close as a shotblocker these days.
West is actually blocking more shots right now, and his opponents PER is much lower than Tyson's.
Tyson is really dangerous on the pick and roll, and he's a fabulous rebounder, but David West is more valuable to the team easily, and it's not even close with Chris.
West is actually blocking more shots right now, and his opponents PER is much lower than Tyson's.
Tyson is really dangerous on the pick and roll, and he's a fabulous rebounder, but David West is more valuable to the team easily, and it's not even close with Chris.
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NO-KG-AI wrote:The thing is, Chandler isn't that good of a defender, he's good, but he's certainly not great, he's a decent man defender and a decent shotblocker, but even West is a better post defender, and close as a shotblocker these days.
West is actually blocking more shots right now, and his opponents PER is much lower than Tyson's.
Tyson is really dangerous on the pick and roll, and he's a fabulous rebounder, but David West is more valuable to the team easily, and it's not even close with Chris.
That's apples and oranges.
Have West guard Yao, Duncan, Illgauskas, Bynum, Kaman, Rasheed, Dwight and Camby. His PER won't look so good then.
Chandler isn't as good as West or Paul but he is the anchor. West can't guard C's. Chandler isn't easily replaceable. Just look at the difference in the Lakers without Bynum that presence in the middle is huge.......
I'm so tired of the typical......
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That's apples and oranges.
Have West guard Yao, Duncan, Illgauskas, Bynum, Kaman, Rasheed, Dwight and Camby. His PER won't look so good then.
Chandler isn't as good as West or Paul but he is the anchor. West can't guard C's. Chandler isn't easily replaceable. Just look at the difference in the Lakers without Bynum that presence in the middle is huge.......
Check West's numbers against centers, and yes he does guard centers.... dunno how you can deduce that he doesn't from one game.
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Check West's numbers against centers, and yes he does guard centers.... dunno how you can deduce that he doesn't from one game.
I'm not saying from one game. And he didn't guard Duncan tonight. I also can't see him guarding Yao, Dwight, Kaman or Z when they have Chandler. Looking at 82 games he doesn't play C that much. About 1% of the time. Also looking at the Hornets best 5 man units their worst unit is when Hilton Armstrong replaces Chandler. They have a 20% win when the starting unit plays with Armstrong instead of Chandler.
http://www.82games.com/0708/07NOH10C.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0708/0708NOH2.HTM
I'm so tired of the typical......