Post#47 » by Bernman » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:19 pm
Let's see statistics about how basketball players get injured at higher rate than soccer players, or this issue really isn't worth talking about. And the response that people notice more injuries in soccer, isn't valid either, because there are over twice as many players on a field, they play for almost twice as long, and if you follow soccer worldwide, I bet there are a lot more injuries mentioned because there's a massive amount more of relevant teams. There needs to be an objective study on the issue, weighing all those factors, because it's just a difficult propensity to measure with observation alone.
On the flopping issue: it's worse in basketball because it occurs on defense, as opposed to offense in soccer.
Usually, offensive players in soccer are embellishing in an attempt to get calls that they deserve. Contact could be significant enough to dislodge the ball, but not take a player down. If you don't go to ground, a referee won't usually call it. It's reinforced within the difficulty of fairly enforcing the rules of the sport.
Whereas in basketball, players like Nocioni and Varejao do it on defense because they know they're outclassed in a match-up. That's cheap gamesmanship.
Cheap gamesmanship happens occasionally in soccer too, but usually in the form of faking injuries, because they figure if the game will be prolonged they probably won't come out victorious.
And it's more of a cultural thing than being inherent among "pussy" soccer players. El Salvador had players laying on the ground for about a third of the second half against USA during their most recent WC qualifier. Argentinians and Brazilians are notorious for blatantly faking fouls and injuries. But I've never seen American soccer players resort to that tactic. I'm sure it's occurred, but I've watched a lot of yankee soccer, and it just isn't that prevalent.
Same thing in basketball. Even though Latin Americans make up a very minute minority of the NBA, they comprise a majority of the most notorious floppers in the game. Varejao, Nocioni, and Manu have to be in the top 5 on that list. I'm sure they, and many other basketball players, would be faking injuries if there was a running clock like in soccer. Hell, American football players are revered as among the toughest in sports, yet how many guys have tried to delay the game by laying on the football and slowly getting up to preserve a victory? They've had to create rules to deter it like clock run-offs, loss of TO's, etc. And you can only waste 40 seconds max of time anyways doing it, and the refs would stop the clock well before that occurred. Faking injuries would be very prevalent if all those deterrences weren't in place. Toughness has nothing to do with it. It's desire to win by any means necessary.
"TRADE GIANNIS" - Magic Giannison