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Kobe had some pretty outstanding stretches :

Kobe '10( First 32 games ): 30.6PPG | 5.8RPG | 4.6APG | 2.1SPG | .3BPG on .485%FG ; 57%TS

Kobe '03( First 38 games ): 27.9PPG | 7.6RPG | 7.0APG | 2.2SPG | .9BPG on 45%FG ; 101DRTG

What about Bernard King in the 84 post-season?
He averaged well over 40 in an entire series against Detroit (on absolutely amazing efficiency).
And then he was still a beast against the eventual chmapions, the Celtics.

Does anyone have hard data on this run?

Kobe

January 2006 - 43.4 ppg 61.1% TS

SideshowBob wrote:

toodles23 wrote:I think Lebron's best stretch (at least statistically) is the first 9 games of the '09 postseason.

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G    MP    PTS    TRB    AST    STL    BLK    TS%    ORTG   GmSc
9    39.5  34.7   9.3    6.9    2.0    .9    .654    140    31.9

And the most impressive thing about this stretch was his 1.7 TOs per game for an absurdly low TOV% of 5.9.

Here's how Cleveland looked through those the first two rounds.

115.9 ORTG (+7.6)
95.5 DRTG (-12.8)
+16.7 MOV
+17.4 SRS

Taking this even further. In the 81 regular season games Lebron played in, Cleveland posted a +8.80 SRS.

Holding the assumptions that Lebron was a +10 player in the regular season, AND that Cleveland's huge SRS spike in the PO is attributed 90% to Lebron (which may in fact be an understatement, as Williams maintained the same minutes through the first two rounds, but played poorer, as did Ilgauskas, while West saw a huge increase in minutes and played at about the same level).

From this, Lebron comes out to a +17.8 SRS/SIO player through the first two rounds of the 2009 playoffs. If we account for both Atlanta and Detroit playing under their expected levels, Lebron's looks closer to a +15 player. While this is an extremely elementary calculation, it still paints a rough picture of the kind of level he was playing at.

ThunderDan9 wrote:What about Bernard King in the 84 post-season?
He averaged well over 40 in an entire series against Detroit (on absolutely amazing efficiency).
And then he was still a beast against the eventual chmapions, the Celtics.

Does anyone have hard data on this run?

King vs. Detoit, 1984



King vs. Boston, 1984

Amare_1_Knicks wrote:Kobe had some pretty outstanding stretches :

Kobe '03( First 38 games ): 27.9PPG | 7.6RPG | 7.0APG | 2.2SPG | .9BPG on 45%FG ; 101DRTG

Outstanding? thats somebody's career average haha

My favourite is Jordan's 55/12/6/4/2 over 3 games

The Infamous1 wrote:Kobe

January 2006 - 43.4 ppg 61.1% TS

Kobe 2007, 7 game stretch (midst of 50 point streak)



Kobe 2007, 3/16-3/23



Kobe 2006, 1/19-1/22



Kobe 2006, 12/28-1/11



Kobe 2003, 2/6-2/23

Some crazy Jordan stretches:

Second half of the 1988 season (40 games):

36.7 pts/5.6 reb/5.0 ast/2.7 stl/1.5 blk/53.4% FG/60% TS

First half of the 1989 season (40 games):

35.1 pts/8.1 reb/6.8 ast/3.3 sti/.8 blk/55.2% FG/62.1% TS (ridiculous efficiency at that volume)

Final 25 games of the 1989 season:

30.6 pts/9.3 reb/10.4 ast/2.5 stl/.8 blk/50.1% FG/59.2% TS (only 3.7 TO's)

1990, 53 game stretch:

34.7 pts/6.6 reb/6.3 ast/2.9 stl/.8 blk/52.9% FG/60.8% TS (only 3.0 TO's)

1990, 13 game stretch:

38.4 pts/8.4 reb/5.8 ast/3.9 stl/.9 blk/56.5% FG/64.1% TS (look at the efficiency, and only 2.5 TO's! - he had consecutive games of 69/49/47 points in this span)

Since this is not only streaks and individual games as well check this one out by Erving....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 10PHI.html

ardee wrote:Since this is not only streaks and individual games as well check this one out by Erving....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 10PHI.html

Ridiculous, but I question the 8 blocks. Could have been some home cooking by the stat keeper.

ardee wrote:And I was the one who started that thread

Admittedly I am kinda a sucker for impressive stat-lines. That Wade one will always be just classic.

if I knew about this I wouldn't argue with you about Wilt. obviously you love stats.

I always loved Olajuwon defensive statlines from the early-mid 90s. I think he had a game with 7 steals and 7 blocks or something like that. that coupled with opp Cs shooting like 1-10 with 5+ tov. just unreal defensive stretches. you can look up a game from early 95 when he outscored Smits ~43-3 http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 90IND.html Smits statline: 1-11, 2 tov, 1 ast, 5 fouls (Hakeem with 8 blocks, amazing ability to block your own man). or this one http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 20NJN.html where he holds Coleman (top-notch post player at the time) to 1-15 shooting and 5 tov (5 blk/5 stl for Hakeem in that game), while also scoring 31 pts at 61% FG. http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 30HOU.html or this where he outscores MVP Robinson 47-23. fg stats: Hakeem 21/35, D-Rob 8/21. then the next day he goes to Denver on b2b road games and outscores Mutombo 41-8. then couple games later he holds Ewing to 15 pts on 6/19.

it's not just about these stats alone, it's about competition and total destruction on both ends. I understand statlines in this thread are impressive but that's mostly all offense, Hakeem was not only putting up huge offensive numbers but also defensively. dude could make look HOF PF/C look like idiots. he put up b2b 40+ pt games against Robinson and Mutombo... while outscoring them 88-31. I don't think I ever saw someone who could hold his own man to 30% FG consistently. that's why to me it's much more impressive than all of the previous guys.

Larry Bird, 1987, 3/15 to 4/05



33/10/9 on 57-53-94 shooting

I know '86 is the consensus year for Bird's peak but '87 was pretty darn ridiculous as well.

I wish we had the full game log for his '85 season, statistically that was his best.

Bird 1985-86, 2/20 - 3/17

What about Wilt Chamberlain? I'm sure he had some sick stat lines.

Does anyone have info on this Jerry West sick performance?

"44 points (16 of 17 shots from the field, 12 of 12 free throw attempts) with 12 rebounds, 12 assists and (unofficially counted) 10 blocked shots, thus scoring a non-official ultra-rare quadruple double."

PTB Fan wrote:What about Wilt Chamberlain? I'm sure he had some sick stat lines.

Does anyone have info on this Jerry West sick performance?

"44 points (16 of 17 shots from the field, 12 of 12 free throw attempts) with 12 rebounds, 12 assists and (unofficially counted) 10 blocked shots, thus scoring a non-official ultra-rare quadruple double."

I just can't see West blocking 10 shots. He was a good defender but 10 blocks? He was 6'2.

Melo 12 (7 games):
33.1/7.4/4.1, 2.4TOV, 61.5TS, 52.1FG%, 51.6 3PT%

I love these threads. It's crazy how Blake's 30/14/5 as a rookie, Melo's 30/7.5/3.5 in over a month, and Kobe's 28/7.5/7 over half a season are the worst statlines posted. It's absurd.

Just looked up some overlooked players

Penny 96
To kick off the season without Shaq (6 gms):
31.2/5.5/6.7, 16.3FGA, 12.7FTA, 71.7TS, 142ORTG
8 games in March with Shaq:
25.0/7.5/8.7, 15.5FGA, 10.7FTA, 61.9TS

Kevin McHale 87
Stretch in March (7 gms):
30.4/9.9/2.3, 1.9TOV, 69.7FG%, 139ORTG, 73.5TS, 8.3TO%

Nique 86
To end 1985 (8 gms):
34.5/10.4/2.6, 60.8TS, 2.5spg
To end the season (6 gms):
39.2/7.8/2.3, 54TS

Grant Hill
10 games in March 96'
22.4/13.5/8.0, 55.8TS
Start of April 97' (8 gms)
24.9/12.1/9.1, 2spg, 2.9TOV, 56.5TS
Start of new Millenium (7 gms)
36.1/5.1/6.3, 1.9spg, 1.1bpg, 2.9TOV, 68.7TS, 30.7GmSc

Kidd 99
Mid April (10 games):
21.4/6.3/11.3, 2.3stls, 3.4TOV, 61.4TS
Feb 15-26 (7 games):
17.3/9.9/12.7, 2.6stls, 1bpg, 3.0TOV, 51.7TS

ecksodia wrote:

Amare_1_Knicks wrote:Kobe had some pretty outstanding stretches :

Kobe '10( First 32 games ): 30.6PPG | 5.8RPG | 4.6APG | 2.1SPG | .3BPG on .485%FG ; 57%TS

Kobe '03( First 38 games ): 27.9PPG | 7.6RPG | 7.0APG | 2.2SPG | .9BPG on 45%FG ; 101DRTG

Jordan's career average trumps both of those statlines. LeBron's is right there too. I think there are definitely better stretches for Kobe.

Yeah I don't understand why he'd use those

In '03, there was an 8 game stretch in the midst of his 13 straight 35+ point games where he averaged 44.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.5 apg, 2.5 spg on 51/51/83 shooting and 61.5% TS. He was 2.9/5.6 on threes during that stretch.

Same year, later on, from 3/25 to 4/04 he averaged 28/7/6, nothing special right? But on 55% from three! 3.3/6.0 over 7 games!

Kobe's three was like a pull up jumper from the high post that year. Just red hot.

A couple of other awesome ones:

3/16 to 3/25 (5 games): 53.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 2 apg, 53/48/92 shooting, 65.6% TS. 54 ppg on 66% TS?! UnREAL!

1/06 to 1/22 in 2006 (10 games): 45.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, 49/41/91 shooting, 61.4% TS. So, 46 ppg on nearly 50/40/90 splits? Not bad either haha.