Beasley or Gallinari?

[TheBigBoss]

Don't care much for this dick measuring contest

Its no contest, the Knicks have the Big Cock, the Heat have little Beas.

[NYKnick87]

I still don't see how Gallinari is a better player..
Gallinari was shooting tons.. you will eventually make some.

Since you are talking about numbers, if Beasley would've played more he would have scored more he was unstoppable when Wade was out.

You must be blind then. Either that or you got the homer goggles on.

[Flash3]

to end this ridiculously discussion
let's see what NBA writers have to say.

Which sophomore would you rather have:
Michael Beasley or Danilo Gallinari?

Abbott: Beasley might be one of the only potential future MVPs who can be had on the cheap. But Gallinari is one of the biggest and best spot-up shooters in NBA history, and he plays some D, too. Any team could use a guy like that. Another question: What's more likely to go haywire: Gallinari's back or Beasley's judgment?

Broussard: Beasley. His talent is greater than Gallinari's and though he's got a long way to go, he's showing signs of maturity. Gallinari's a great shooter, but Beasley's got more versatility.

Ford: Beasley. He's a more complete player. He rebounds, he can score inside and he doesn't have a bad back.

Hollinger: Beasley. Gallinari is a better shooter, but Beasley is the better athlete and has more ways to develop his game in the future. Additionally, there's the issue of Gallinari's back. Gallo will be a great shooter for many years, but Beasley is the only one of the two with All-NBA potential.

Sheridan: Beasley. I'll take the multidimensional player over the one-trick specialist every time, and it's a bonus that Beasley can shoot 3s, too. Plus, Gallinari gets attacked every night on defense.

source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/stor ... cks-091224

Just because a bunch of ESPN writers say something, doesn't make it true. Sheridan for one has no idea what he's talking about. Gallinari is more than a one trick specialist. He's shown that he's an above average defender with solid shotblocking and is a good passer. Sheridan probably knows less about the game of basketball than some of the worst posters on here. I'm positive that he's never seen Gallo play, he's only seen the box score. And Hollinger is wrong, Gallo certainly has the potential to be an all-star.

No one is saying go by ESPN or anything, but it would be comical had it been pro-gallinari to see the opposite reaction.

[knickabocker88]

^^^^

See the thorpe " Gallo would make the Cavs the Best Team in the East"

[Toxicity]

It seems NBA writers live on stereotypes... wow.

[Kakapato]

It seems NBA writers live on stereotypes... wow.

ESPN

Do you remember then they were claiming Brad Friedel as the better goal keeper in the world?

Those guys are a bunch of persons playing with numbers and stats (like PER ). The problem is that kids are starting to see sport in the way they do... and so they evaluate players by numbers and not by their real game.

[Flash3]

^^^^

See the thorpe " Gallo would make the Cavs the Best Team in the East"

And, you had a few who were trying to justify that he would. But, those "few" select fans are a part of every fan base

[bringinhinkie]

mann this thread is still going?

just give it a rest and revisit it after the season, you cannot seriously keep updating this thing on a game by game basis, its real silly

"omg tonight gallo scored 25, beasley scored 12, gallo>beasley"

next night "beasley scored 25, gallo scored 10, beasley > gallo"

gallinari has played only 55 nba games, beasley himself has only played 107, you cannot seriously think you are gonna get a concrete answer on who is the superior prospect after such little time and really so similar numbers..

they are both damn good prospects with different games, give it time and then revisit the thread

[NYK 455]

They're both gonna be all-stars in this league......

[Flash4thewin]

mann this thread is still going?

just give it a rest and revisit it after the season, you cannot seriously keep updating this thing on a game by game basis, its real silly

"omg tonight gallo scored 25, beasley scored 12, gallo>beasley"

next night "beasley scored 25, gallo scored 10, beasley > gallo"

gallinari has played only 55 nba games, beasley himself has only played 107, you cannot seriously think you are gonna get a concrete answer on who is the superior prospect after such little time and really so similar numbers..

they are both damn good prospects with different games, give it time and then revisit the thread

This might be the best post here. Got to admit love the passion Knick fans have for there players.

[TrueWarrior]

Yea lets just admit that both will be very good players. We'll re-visit this thread later in the season and see how they progressed, but its pointless posting stats game by game. Both guys have stepped their games up lately. Gallo is attacking more and getting to the line, but his shot has just been off. Once he gets out of this little mini slump his numbers will rise, because hes been playing better in every other aspect besides his shooting. Im predicting around 16ppg/6rpg/2apg/1bpg by the end of the season for Gallo and 18ppg/7rpg/1apg/0.5bpg for Beas.

They're two totally different types of players who seem to look like very good future second options. Not superstars but maybe a few All Star appearances if they reach their full potential. I think Beasley needs to pick it up on defense if he wants to take his game to the next level, while Gallo is already a pretty good shot blocker and a better defender than everyone thought. Once he gets stronger and moves to the PF spot I think his game will blossom even further. Beas needs to step it up here because he has the athleticism and strength to be at least an average defender.

[Miami's Finest]

They're two totally different types of players who seem to look like very good future second options. Not superstars but maybe a few All Star appearances if they reach their full potential. I think Beasley needs to pick it up on defense if he wants to take his game to the next level, while Gallo is already a pretty good shot blocker and a better defender than everyone thought. Once he gets stronger and moves to the PF spot I think his game will blossom even further. Beas needs to step it up here because he has the athleticism and strength to be at least an average defender.

Beasley has already become a very good man defender. His only problem is on some rotations and even that has gotten better as of late.

[miamiballer]

although i think beasley is better now and has more potential, if miami lands bosh in the offseason, i would be open to trading beasley to NY for gallinari...gallo would just fit in better w/ wade and bosh IMO...

[ARISE_CHICKEN]

Beasley is still clearly a project, which makes his current numbers reasonably impressive. The mental understanding of the game is not there yet but improving very quickly. I think he has more potential than Gallo but I'm torn on who I'd want right now. For the majority of NBA teams, Gallinari is probably a better fit.

[CoolD]

although i think beasley is better now and has more potential, if miami lands bosh in the offseason, i would be open to trading beasley to NY for gallinari...gallo would just fit in better w/ wade and bosh IMO...

No, you can get much better value for Beasley than this bonafied tall Jason Kapono.
I rather get me a defensive player with a better all around game,
Bosh and Gallo equals no defense. We will be horrible on D.

Beasley yesterday didn't have his best game all around, but Beasley is easily much better for the type of defense we play. I saw Gallo get lost, a couple times, if this happened to be a for a good team, the guy would get bench for such atrocious lapses in defense. He is lucky his team sucks and his coach doesn't care about defense. And Knick fans are so used to mediocrity, they don't even seem to notice this either.

[magnumt]

good defense? lol
well you are a Knicks fans you wouldn't know what good defense is.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

good defense? lol
well you are a Knicks fans you wouldn't know what good defense is.

The 90's/early 2000s Knicks say high.

Allan Houston says Merry Christmas too.

Also: Gallo-->8-18, Beasley-->7-16...yeah Gallo was REALLY bad.

And Finally: Gallo-->8 Rebounds, Beasley-->2

In closing:

...Either way, IMO most are just happy that Gallo is showing everyone that he's not just a 3PT Specialist or Kyle Korver knockoff as we've seen many Trolls come here and say (speaking in general terms HSOB, not to you).

I mean no offense to Beasley, because he has a good Offense as well...but IMO Gallo showed a lot more in the Game yesterday on the National Stage...and showed that when one aspect of his Game isn't working, he can expand it at will (further proving the rep he has of having a VERY high B-Ball IQ).

That's all we're really saying. I really don't know where all of this Beasley vs Gallo talk came from (and the Thread on the PC Board only helped spur it on). Also, Gallo missed nearly the entire 1st Year w/ injury and a risky surgery while Beasly had a full Year under his belt and this is really Gallo's Rookie Year.

Fact is Beasley *should* be doing better then Gallo as a high Pick (#2), than Gallo (#6)...and NY never had a shot at Beasley.

In the end, I wish them both success in their careers, but the comparisons should really stop.

--Mags

[YounG_A]

they say high? lol
2006 NBA CHAMPIONS say hi

8-18 yeah but most of those were 3s lol
yeah he drove to the basket like 4 times, I still see him as a 3pt chucker 1 dimensional player
stop worshiping him, he will not be a great player, will not become an all star. I see him being a nice 3pt shooter off the bench or a solid starter nothing else.

Really? Danilo was the only one that "when one aspect of his game isn't working he can expand it at will". Well then you must of been closing your eyes when Beasley was playing. He also stop shooting jumpers and started driving to the basket, I guess you also think that Beasley has a VERY high B-Ball IQ because he did that.

All you're saying is that DANILO WILL BE THE GREATEST EVER OMG!!
all this Beasley vs. 3pt chucker talk came from Knicks fans thinking he's better than Beasley and being huge homers.

FACT is Beasley is doing better than Gallinari.

In the end, Danilo Gallinari will not be great and will never be an allstar. yes all the comparisons should stop because Beasley is a lot better than this glorified 3pt chucker.

--young_a

[next2spike]

they say high? lol
2006 NBA CHAMPIONS say hi

8-18 yeah but most of those were 3s lol
yeah he drove to the basket like 4 times, I still see him as a 3pt chucker 1 dimensional player
stop worshiping him, he will not be a great player, will not become an all star. I see him being a nice 3pt shooter off the bench or a solid starter nothing else.

Really? Danilo was the only one that "when one aspect of his game isn't working he can expand it at will". Well then you must of been closing your eyes when Beasley was playing. He also stop shooting jumpers and started driving to the basket, I guess you also think that Beasley has a VERY high B-Ball IQ because he did that.

All you're saying is that DANILO WILL BE THE GREATEST EVER OMG!!
all this Beasley vs. 3pt chucker talk came from Knicks fans thinking he's better than Beasley and being huge homers.

FACT is Beasley is doing better than Gallinari.

In the end, Danilo Gallinari will not be great and will never be an allstar. yes all the comparisons should stop because Beasley is a lot better than this glorified 3pt chucker.

--young_a

1999-2000 Knicks lock up your 2006 Champions imo...

You keep saying three point chucker. Honestly, how many times have you seen Gallinari play? You sound very ignorant, ignoring all the other features of his game, acting as if they are not there. I just read over your post again, and you have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh, and your bold part, no he's not.

[NYKnick87]

although i think beasley is better now and has more potential, if miami lands bosh in the offseason, i would be open to trading beasley to NY for gallinari...gallo would just fit in better w/ wade and bosh IMO...

No, you can get much better value for Beasley than this bonafied tall Jason Kapono.
I rather get me a defensive player with a better all around game,
Bosh and Gallo equals no defense. We will be horrible on D.

Beasley yesterday didn't have his best game all around, but Beasley is easily much better for the type of defense we play. I saw Gallo get lost, a couple times, if this happened to be a for a good team, the guy would get bench for such atrocious lapses in defense. He is lucky his team sucks and his coach doesn't care about defense. And Knick fans are so used to mediocrity, they don't even seem to notice this either.

Beasley's defense < Gallo's defense. Only person who was lost was Beasley on that and 1 play by Gallo. Beasley doesn't have an all around game either - sucks at D and can't pass. There's a reason why he's not playing at the end of games.

[NYKnick87]

they say high? lol
2006 NBA CHAMPIONS say hi

8-18 yeah but most of those were 3s lol
yeah he drove to the basket like 4 times, I still see him as a 3pt chucker 1 dimensional player
stop worshiping him, he will not be a great player, will not become an all star. I see him being a nice 3pt shooter off the bench or a solid starter nothing else.

Really? Danilo was the only one that "when one aspect of his game isn't working he can expand it at will". Well then you must of been closing your eyes when Beasley was playing. He also stop shooting jumpers and started driving to the basket, I guess you also think that Beasley has a VERY high B-Ball IQ because he did that.

All you're saying is that DANILO WILL BE THE GREATEST EVER OMG!!
all this Beasley vs. 3pt chucker talk came from Knicks fans thinking he's better than Beasley and being huge homers.

FACT is Beasley is doing better than Gallinari.

In the end, Danilo Gallinari will not be great and will never be an allstar. yes all the comparisons should stop because Beasley is a lot better than this glorified 3pt chucker.

--young_a

lol, you're just mad that Beasley isn't as good as Gallo.