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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 3:57 pm
by TroubleS0me
Ein Sof wrote:Uh-oh:
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Locker room dysfunction?


hm..interesting
He could have put Giannis at Center too

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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 6:42 pm
by Ein Sof
TroubleS0me wrote:
Ein Sof wrote:Uh-oh:
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Locker room dysfunction?


hm..interesting
He could have put Giannis at Center too

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Bam over Embiid, Jokic and his 2x MVP teammate is NASTY lmao

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 1:10 am
by jalengreen
Ein Sof wrote:Uh-oh:
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Locker room dysfunction?


Bit late with this one lol

But anyway Dame and Bam have both talked about how they're really close friends. Might've been the biggest reason he wanted to go to Miami in the first place. Not that surprising

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 6:47 am
by Ein Sof
jalengreen wrote:
Ein Sof wrote:Uh-oh:
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Locker room dysfunction?


Bit late with this one lol

But anyway Dame and Bam have both talked about how they're really close friends. Might've been the biggest reason he wanted to go to Miami in the first place. Not that surprising

Nah him and Giannis clearly hate each other.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:47 pm
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 10:05 pm
by O_6
Best 5-man Lineups (300+ minutes)
MIL (Dame/Beasley/Middleton/Giannis/Lopez): +14.9 in 594 minutes
DEN (Murray/KCP/MPJ/Gordon/Jokic): +13.5 in 895 minutes
BOS (Jrue/White/Brown/Tatum/Porzingis): +12.6 in 596 minutes

Pretty clearly the 3 best lineups in the league this year. The Bucks' advanced ratings look rather pedestrian and underwhelming based on the pre-season Dame/Giannis hype, but when their best 5 is on the floor together they are absolutely killing it. This despite a mid-season coaching change and Lillard having a "down" season by his standards.

In the playoffs, depth will still matter and Doc Rivers will need to figure out a way to get other lineups to work. But I think people are sleeping on the Bucks' potential in the playoffs this year, feels like people think Boston has the East wrapped up as long as they stay healthy but I don't think it's set in stone. The Bucks can give them a real fight if Dame has a great series (the matchup vs. Jrue would be spicy to say the least).

Just feels like people are sleeping on Giannis in general ever since Jokic took the crown as best in the league and Luka ascending to a guy worthy of being in the conversation.

1st, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 3rd in the MVP voting the past 5 years and 4th in MVP odds as of today. Assuming he finishes 3rd/4th/5th in the MVP race this year, he'll be at roughly 3.90 NBA MVP shares which is 11th all-time and 2nd among active players to LeBron.

- 30/12/6 over the last 6 years (396 games) on .630 TS% with a 30.5 PER/.259 WS/48/9.9 BPM and a +9.2 On/Off
- 2 MVPs, 1 DPOY, and 1 Finals MVP (including a 50pt game + legendary block) over these 6 years
- He was voted 25th best player ever before this season on RealGM's Top 100 list

He's 29.

People really take his greatness for granted. He is very capable of leading the Bucks to another ring this year, and it really feels like that 2nd ring would cement him as one of the best to ever lace them up. The Bucks' best 5-man unit certainly looks Championship worthy, it'll be up to the depth and coaching. I'm not saying they'll win but they are lurking there right now and people are definitely overlooking their potential and Giannis' historic stretch of play.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 10:40 pm
by TheGOATRises007
O_6 wrote:Best 5-man Lineups (300+ minutes)
MIL (Dame/Beasley/Middleton/Giannis/Lopez): +14.9 in 594 minutes
DEN (Murray/KCP/MPJ/Gordon/Jokic): +13.5 in 895 minutes
BOS (Jrue/White/Brown/Tatum/Porzingis): +12.6 in 596 minutes

Pretty clearly the 3 best lineups in the league this year. The Bucks' advanced ratings look rather pedestrian and underwhelming based on the pre-season Dame/Giannis hype, but when their best 5 is on the floor together they are absolutely killing it. This despite a mid-season coaching change and Lillard having a "down" season by his standards.

In the playoffs, depth will still matter and Doc Rivers will need to figure out a way to get other lineups to work. But I think people are sleeping on the Bucks' potential in the playoffs this year, feels like people think Boston has the East wrapped up as long as they stay healthy but I don't think it's set in stone. The Bucks can give them a real fight if Dame has a great series (the matchup vs. Jrue would be spicy to say the least).

Just feels like people are sleeping on Giannis in general ever since Jokic took the crown as best in the league and Luka ascending to a guy worthy of being in the conversation.

1st, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 3rd in the MVP voting the past 5 years and 4th in MVP odds as of today. Assuming he finishes 3rd/4th/5th in the MVP race this year, he'll be at roughly 3.90 NBA MVP shares which is 11th all-time and 2nd among active players to LeBron.

- 30/12/6 over the last 6 years (396 games) on .630 TS% with a 30.5 PER/.259 WS/48/9.9 BPM and a +9.2 On/Off
- 2 MVPs, 1 DPOY, and 1 Finals MVP (including a 50pt game + legendary block) over these 6 years
- He was voted 25th best player ever before this season on RealGM's Top 100 list

He's 29.

People really take his greatness for granted. He is very capable of leading the Bucks to another ring this year, and it really feels like that 2nd ring would cement him as one of the best to ever lace them up. The Bucks' best 5-man unit certainly looks Championship worthy, it'll be up to the depth and coaching. I'm not saying they'll win but they are lurking there right now and people are definitely overlooking their potential and Giannis' historic stretch of play.


That net rating is interesting. I didn't think the Bucks graded that high.

Do you have the numbers for their other common 5 man line-ups?

They should be winning more games if their starting 5 is that dominant.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 10:41 pm
by TheGOATRises007
Also, do you have a rating of that dominant 5 man line-up vs Boston?

I'm not sure the Bucks can trot out that 5 vs Boston and be successful.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 10:58 pm
by O_6
TheGOATRises007 wrote:Also, do you have a rating of that dominant 5 man line-up vs Boston?
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I'm not sure the Bucks can trot out that 5 vs Boston and be successful.


https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/advanced

Not sure about that 5 man vs. Boston but Giannis is a +44 against Boston this year in 2 games.

Boston is definitely the best team in the league this year but the Bucks’ ceiling is being overlooked imo.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 10:59 pm
by AussieBuck
TheGOATRises007 wrote:
O_6 wrote:Best 5-man Lineups (300+ minutes)
MIL (Dame/Beasley/Middleton/Giannis/Lopez): +14.9 in 594 minutes
DEN (Murray/KCP/MPJ/Gordon/Jokic): +13.5 in 895 minutes
BOS (Jrue/White/Brown/Tatum/Porzingis): +12.6 in 596 minutes

Pretty clearly the 3 best lineups in the league this year. The Bucks' advanced ratings look rather pedestrian and underwhelming based on the pre-season Dame/Giannis hype, but when their best 5 is on the floor together they are absolutely killing it. This despite a mid-season coaching change and Lillard having a "down" season by his standards.

In the playoffs, depth will still matter and Doc Rivers will need to figure out a way to get other lineups to work. But I think people are sleeping on the Bucks' potential in the playoffs this year, feels like people think Boston has the East wrapped up as long as they stay healthy but I don't think it's set in stone. The Bucks can give them a real fight if Dame has a great series (the matchup vs. Jrue would be spicy to say the least).

Just feels like people are sleeping on Giannis in general ever since Jokic took the crown as best in the league and Luka ascending to a guy worthy of being in the conversation.

1st, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 3rd in the MVP voting the past 5 years and 4th in MVP odds as of today. Assuming he finishes 3rd/4th/5th in the MVP race this year, he'll be at roughly 3.90 NBA MVP shares which is 11th all-time and 2nd among active players to LeBron.

- 30/12/6 over the last 6 years (396 games) on .630 TS% with a 30.5 PER/.259 WS/48/9.9 BPM and a +9.2 On/Off
- 2 MVPs, 1 DPOY, and 1 Finals MVP (including a 50pt game + legendary block) over these 6 years
- He was voted 25th best player ever before this season on RealGM's Top 100 list

He's 29.

People really take his greatness for granted. He is very capable of leading the Bucks to another ring this year, and it really feels like that 2nd ring would cement him as one of the best to ever lace them up. The Bucks' best 5-man unit certainly looks Championship worthy, it'll be up to the depth and coaching. I'm not saying they'll win but they are lurking there right now and people are definitely overlooking their potential and Giannis' historic stretch of play.


That net rating is interesting. I didn't think the Bucks graded that high.

Do you have the numbers for their other common 5 man line-ups?

They should be winning more games if their starting 5 is that dominant.

The Bucks don't have any other common 5 man lineups other than the one swapping out Middleton for Crowder which is +13.8.

The starting unit don't play much together generally and the SF minutes have been split between Middleton, Crowder and Connaughton due to injury. The other 4 starters with any SF is +13 in 1100 minutes.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 4, 2024 1:08 am
by TroubleS0me
O_6 wrote:Best 5-man Lineups (300+ minutes)
MIL (Dame/Beasley/Middleton/Giannis/Lopez): +14.9 in 594 minutes
DEN (Murray/KCP/MPJ/Gordon/Jokic): +13.5 in 895 minutes
BOS (Jrue/White/Brown/Tatum/Porzingis): +12.6 in 596 minutes

Pretty clearly the 3 best lineups in the league this year. The Bucks' advanced ratings look rather pedestrian and underwhelming based on the pre-season Dame/Giannis hype, but when their best 5 is on the floor together they are absolutely killing it. This despite a mid-season coaching change and Lillard having a "down" season by his standards.

In the playoffs, depth will still matter and Doc Rivers will need to figure out a way to get other lineups to work. But I think people are sleeping on the Bucks' potential in the playoffs this year, feels like people think Boston has the East wrapped up as long as they stay healthy but I don't think it's set in stone. The Bucks can give them a real fight if Dame has a great series (the matchup vs. Jrue would be spicy to say the least).

Just feels like people are sleeping on Giannis in general ever since Jokic took the crown as best in the league and Luka ascending to a guy worthy of being in the conversation.

1st, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 3rd in the MVP voting the past 5 years and 4th in MVP odds as of today. Assuming he finishes 3rd/4th/5th in the MVP race this year, he'll be at roughly 3.90 NBA MVP shares which is 11th all-time and 2nd among active players to LeBron.

- 30/12/6 over the last 6 years (396 games) on .630 TS% with a 30.5 PER/.259 WS/48/9.9 BPM and a +9.2 On/Off
- 2 MVPs, 1 DPOY, and 1 Finals MVP (including a 50pt game + legendary block) over these 6 years
- He was voted 25th best player ever before this season on RealGM's Top 100 list

He's 29.

People really take his greatness for granted. He is very capable of leading the Bucks to another ring this year, and it really feels like that 2nd ring would cement him as one of the best to ever lace them up. The Bucks' best 5-man unit certainly looks Championship worthy, it'll be up to the depth and coaching. I'm not saying they'll win but they are lurking there right now and people are definitely overlooking their potential and Giannis' historic stretch of play.


Yes, the Bucks have a chance vs Boston. Giannis makes it possible, uber efficient and it comes down to Lillard. We saw what Jrue did to Lillard back in 2019 playoffs & locked him up. Lillard played well that last time he was in the playoffs vs Nuggets but overall he has struggled in the playoffs.

Giannis still struggles at line, Hack-a-Giannis maybe come playoff time.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:30 pm
by TroubleS0me
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:00 am
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:22 pm
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 - Regular Season Thread

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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 NBA Thread

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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 NBA Thread

Posted: Wed May 1, 2024 2:21 pm
by Dr Positivity
These injuries are unfortunate for the Bucks since these versions of Middleton and Lopez were still probably good enough to be 3rd/4th best on a contender. Not they will be 1 or 2 years from now.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Dame Lillard 3PT CHAMPION & ALL STAR MVP 23-24 NBA Thread

Posted: Thu May 2, 2024 5:09 am
by TroubleS0me
Dr Positivity wrote:These injuries are unfortunate for the Bucks since these versions of Middleton and Lopez were still probably good enough to be 3rd/4th best on a contender. Not they will be 1 or 2 years from now.


Agreed they are good for another 1-2 years. The fact that series is still going on says alot about them. Giannis & Lillard coming soon.