How many PPG will TREVOR ARIZA average this year?

[Don Draper]

id say 6-10, i dont know what averaged in la but they had two players that mostly demanded a double in pau and kobe, in houston, nobody demands a double, hell, some dont even demand a single so id say 6-8 pgg

So b/c nobody on Houston demands a double he will only average 6-8 PPG?

That makes sense.

yea, and the fact that he is a 7 ppg scorer, and only averaged 9 ppg last yr with him usually being the player that was doubled off of, or the fact that he has no offensive game, or the fact that the rockets offense is going to be awful..... i just gave u plenty of reasons, pick one.

So I guess him getting more shots won't have anything to do with it...

[killermamba]

12-14 pts book it

[Hyral]

Man, this must be depressing for Rockets fans, having a role player who can't create his own shot being one of the main offensive weapons...yikes.

Also, Ariza (or was it Ariza's agent) really screwed himself by not re-signing with LA when he had the chance...the Lakers wanted to keep him initially and he should've just taken what the Lakers wanted to give him, there was no way he was getting 7-8 million a year like his agent was demanding. He took too long, Artest came along, and Ariza was suddenly on his way out.

He fit perfectly in LA alongside Kobe & Gasol...he's never going to have the same success again in my opinion unless he gets extremely lucky somehow.

[KiDdFrESh]

Man, this must be depressing for Rockets fans, having a role player who can't create his own shot being one of the main offensive weapons...yikes.

Actually, I respectfully disagree. Granted the Rockets will not have the same success this season with Yao out for the entire season, but I don't think they will suddenly become bottom feeders of the Western Conference or the league for that matter. This team showed a lot of heart against the Lakers in the post season.

The Rockets will still be entertaining to watch. They will play tough defense & running! We will get to watch players attempt to elevate their game to the next level. Brooks will have to look to score more. Scola should get a lot of touches. Landry and Lowry will get more minutes. And Chase Budinger is looking good out there thus far. With Mutombo gone (that's going to be tough as fan not having Mt Mutombo out there stuffin shots and waving his finger!) then maybe Dorsey could see some action.

This team prides themselves on defense and that is more than I can say for the Timberwolves, Clippers, Warriors, Thunder, and Kings. The players have great chemistry and know their roles. We have a good mixture of vets, young talent, and some new faces. If Tracy McGrady is cleared to play after his MRI November 23rd, then why won't this team be able to contend for the playoffs? Even without Yao, this is the best supporting cast T-Mac has ever had. And it's his team and his time to shine this year! Its put up or shut up! This season will determine if his future in Houston. The organization loves McGrady.

Also, Ariza (or was it Ariza's agent) really screwed himself by not re-signing with LA when he had the chance...the Lakers wanted to keep him initially and he should've just taken what the Lakers wanted to give him

I'm not sure how much truth there is to that. Before Ariza officially signed the dotted line (during the time he was rumored to jump ship to Cleveland) Trevor was on the Dan Patrick show, and was asked about what happened with the Lakers? Ariza responed that the Lakers never made him an offer. They wanted to re-sign him, but once they realized Artest was available and wasn't going to re-sign with Houston, the Lakers never made him an offer. Not once. Again, that is coming from Ariza himself.

As far as predicting Ariza's PPG this season, I will go with 12.8 PPG.

[Don Draper]

Also, Ariza (or was it Ariza's agent) really screwed himself by not re-signing with LA when he had the chance...the Lakers wanted to keep him initially and he should've just taken what the Lakers wanted to give him, there was no way he was getting 7-8 million a year like his agent was demanding. He took too long, Artest came along, and Ariza was suddenly on his way out.

1) The Lakers never made an offer
2) He's getting roughly $6.8M and Toronto was offering him more

[thaAteam]

Also, Ariza (or was it Ariza's agent) really screwed himself by not re-signing with LA when he had the chance...the Lakers wanted to keep him initially and he should've just taken what the Lakers wanted to give him, there was no way he was getting 7-8 million a year like his agent was demanding. He took too long, Artest came along, and Ariza was suddenly on his way out.

1) The Lakers never made an offer
2) He's getting roughly $6.8M and Toronto was offering him more

toronto was not offering more thats crap, they were trying to resign marion, and it was a massive overpay for a guy that doesnt even feel a position of need, he should be around the same three mill a yr as he was making las season, he is the one player thats really not good at anything but dunking, it was a dum signing simple and plain, ever team has done.

[Gus McCrae]

The thing I really like about Houston is their heart. The team is full of it heart and toughness and defense and that will be their biggest ally.

They are in lack of a real #1 offensive scoring option but jesus christ Yao AND T-Mac are out. I mean, those guys are both top 20 offensive talents in the league. Lakers with Kobe and Gasol, Magic without VC and Howard, etc. etc. How many teams would still have a playmaker top scorer without their best two? So they get a pass.

I think Ariza will suprise some people. Mitch (lakers gm) had his eye on Ariza for a reason and he did benefit from playing our system but he's better than given credit for. I still stand by my 14 PPG prediction, some players when forced to take over will step up to the challenge. I believe Ariza is ready.

[LApwnd]

^^^I disagree with the 14ppg projection, a high % of Ariza pts came assisted, the times that he didn't get assisted was due to team scrambling to get to him because they were doubling or helping off Pau/Kobe etc. leading him to slash to the basket. Even Hou fan are noticing that he just stand around alot on O, this was a good thing when he was with LA because he stood at the 3pt line and kobe/pau and others got him open shots, dont think it'll be the case in Hou. Also prior to the playoffs his 3pt % was medicore at best, people think that playoff performance will continue which isn't likely. As far as creating his own shot, we'll have to see how that goes but based on last years he's not very good at it, he doesn't handle very well and is TO prone in addition he's more of a "set shot" type of guy, his shot were pretty ugly sometimes when he had to shoot on the move.

[Gus McCrae]

LApwnd, I know I'm in the minority on this prediction and I haven't even seen a HOU preseason game yet, just watched the stats and going off of what I saw from Ariza last year, like you, watched about all 82 games of him.

His points come from open threes and fastbreak points. This year he will be FORCED to score on the move, post up players..basically do things he's never had to do. The thing is, houston wants him to do this. He will struggle, but he'll have more shots taken than ever in his life and as a result, i think he'll get about 14PPG. He is the most athletic guard forward they have and he'll have to make it happen.

only way I don't see him cracking 14 PPG is if Von Wafer gets SIGNIFICANT minutes. (he's still a rocket right? )

[kaiiu2324]

i think he will regret leaving the lakers after he sees how hard it is when defenses actually pay attention to you.

[desertlakerfan]

Also, Ariza (or was it Ariza's agent) really screwed himself by not re-signing with LA when he had the chance...the Lakers wanted to keep him initially and he should've just taken what the Lakers wanted to give him, there was no way he was getting 7-8 million a year like his agent was demanding. He took too long, Artest came along, and Ariza was suddenly on his way out.

1) The Lakers never made an offer
2) He's getting roughly $6.8M and Toronto was offering him more

1) Trevor's agent started negotiations in the media saying his client deserved 9 million a year(and had a offer from a team for that much).
2) Lakers had a choice between Trevor at 9 million or Ron Artest at the MLE.

Wonder which was the wiser decision....

[That Nicka]

11-13

[kwamebargnani]

11

[kwamebargnani]

toronto was not offering more thats crap, they were trying to resign marion, and it was a massive overpay for a guy that doesnt even feel a position of need, he should be around the same three mill a yr as he was making las season, he is the one player thats really not good at anything but dunking, it was a dum signing simple and plain, ever team has done

Toronto offered 8m per season.

[LApwnd]

toronto was not offering more thats crap, they were trying to resign marion, and it was a massive overpay for a guy that doesnt even feel a position of need, he should be around the same three mill a yr as he was making las season, he is the one player thats really not good at anything but dunking, it was a dum signing simple and plain, ever team has done

Toronto offered 8m per season.

SOURCE? cause I have a HARD time believing a player would take LESS money to join a team that would be w/o BOTH their super-star player when Ariza agent made clear its ALL about the money.

[Don Draper]

1) Trevor's agent started negotiations in the media saying his client deserved 9 million a year(and had a offer from a team for that much).
2) Lakers had a choice between Trevor at 9 million or Ron Artest at the MLE.

I don't know why you Laker fans believe lies. Only 1 media outlet said he was looking for $9M, everyone else said 7-8M. You can go check yourself.

toronto was not offering more thats crap, they were trying to resign marion, and it was a massive overpay for a guy that doesnt even feel a position of need, he should be around the same three mill a yr as he was making las season, he is the one player thats really not good at anything but dunking, it was a dum signing simple and plain, ever team has done.

I'm sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. Trevor Ariza said it himself (the day after he signed on LA radio) that Toronto offered him more money but he chose Houston to be closer to his son. He also said LA never made him an offer. Also every just about everyone who wanted to sign Ariza was offering him the MLE.
http://www.am570radio.com/pages/pc/

I don't feel like continually rehashing a topic that has been discussed at length in the past. But a simple Google search will give you more answers.

[LApwnd]

1) Trevor's agent started negotiations in the media saying his client deserved 9 million a year(and had a offer from a team for that much).
2) Lakers had a choice between Trevor at 9 million or Ron Artest at the MLE.

I don't know why you Laker fans believe lies. Only 1 media outlet said he was looking for $9M, everyone else said 7-8M. You can go check yourself.

toronto was not offering more thats crap, they were trying to resign marion, and it was a massive overpay for a guy that doesnt even feel a position of need, he should be around the same three mill a yr as he was making las season, he is the one player thats really not good at anything but dunking, it was a dum signing simple and plain, ever team has done.

I'm sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. Trevor Ariza said it himself (the day after he signed on LA radio) that Toronto offered him more money but he chose Houston to be closer to his son. He also said LA never made him an offer. Also every just about everyone who wanted to sign Ariza was offering him the MLE.
http://www.am570radio.com/pages/pc/

I don't feel like continually rehashing a topic that has been discussed at length in the past. But a simple Google search will give you more answers.

LA didn't make an official offer they mentioned the MLE thus Ariza agent calling it an "INSULT and DISREPECTFUL" that we didn't come out with some giantic offer. I believe our GM story that they told him to go find an offer and if they felt it was within reason they would match, he obviously didn't get anything better than MLE and with Artest quick agreement Ariza agent didn't want to look a fool thats why he accepted Hou offer the very next day. Even if Ariza rational was to stay close to home MLE with LA would've meant more money to begin with so I DONT believe the Tor story because it was 1st rumored that Por. did the same and they too denied it, Tor had would've been the better fit as well as he would have been a 2nd/3rd option and wouldn't have had as HIGH of expectation as he does in Hou and not to mention if he gets 8mill for 5 yrs thats at least $10mill more than than what he got in Hou.

[Guy986]

First option: Aaron Brooks

2nd option: Luis Scola


Either Ariza or Carl Landry will be the team's 3rd leading scorer.

I KNEW that, but then you put it into writing and I did a double take.

scola really should be the 1st option, brooks is more an energy guy then anything, he isnt really good offensively, just had a solid season being the 3rd option hitting threes off ron and yao's doubles, with those guys gone, he is just a nate robinson kinda player

lol....

Aaron Brooks is one of the best at creating his own shot. Granted he's not much of a playmaker but shooting and scoring isn't gonna be a problem. Brooks was the one player during the playoffs that neither Portland nor LA had an answer for. Even Daryl Morey with his infinite wisdom believe that Brooks will emerge as the Rox leading scorer. If you're doing a fantasy draft, get him.

[BubbaTee]

First option: Aaron Brooks

2nd option: Luis Scola


Either Ariza or Carl Landry will be the team's 3rd leading scorer.

I KNEW that, but then you put it into writing and I did a double take.

I'd rather have Battier as the 3rd option than Ariza.

[thaAteam]

yea, brooks is one of the best at creating his own shot...... on the rockets. come on now, its okay to be a homer but your takin it too far