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Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024

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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#41 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:04 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan here...

Whats Trae Young worth?
Reaves, DLO, RUI +2 pics maybe 2nds?


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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#42 » by raleigh » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:16 pm

I wonder what the Lakers would want for LeBron?

Maybe Hunter + Capela + 2nds?
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#43 » by dms269 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:30 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan here, what you guys want for Trae Young? guessing you guys are keeping Murray and possibly Capela

Whats Trae Young worth?
Reaves, DLO, RUI +2 pics maybe 2 nds?


D'Lo has minimal value. He is likely going to pick up his extension and will just be used as salary filler.
Rui is a good player but is too similar to other players already on the roster.
So that leaves us with Reaves and 2 picks for Trae, which I don't think gets Atlanta to bite. Maybe Murray but not Trae.
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#44 » by raleigh » Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:02 pm

I could see a deal built around Hachimura/picks -for- Murray. It frees up minutes for Bufkin and adds some desperately needed forward depth.

The new apron rules could make that kind of maneuvering difficult for the Lakers, though.
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#45 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:01 pm

dms269 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan here, what you guys want for Trae Young? guessing you guys are keeping Murray and possibly Capela

Whats Trae Young worth?
Reaves, DLO, RUI +2 pics maybe 2 nds?


D'Lo has minimal value. He is likely going to pick up his extension and will just be used as salary filler.
Rui is a good player but is too similar to other players already on the roster.
So that leaves us with Reaves and 2 picks for Trae, which I don't think gets Atlanta to bite. Maybe Murray but not Trae.


I thought you guys were keeping Murray, why I didn't mention him :)
I compare Nikola Jokic too Hakeem Olajuwon, Hakeem destroys Jokic.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/nikola_jokic_vs_hakeem_olajuwon.htm
Jokic not a top 10 all time lol
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#46 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:02 pm

raleigh wrote:I wonder what the Lakers would want for LeBron?

Maybe Hunter + Capela + 2nds?


I'm no a fan of Bron I'd do It LOL
I compare Nikola Jokic too Hakeem Olajuwon, Hakeem destroys Jokic.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/nikola_jokic_vs_hakeem_olajuwon.htm
Jokic not a top 10 all time lol
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#47 » by dms269 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:01 pm

Can someone try and explain to me what the appeal of Cam Johnson is? He is 28, plays in under 70% of games, decent 3p shooter but not a great shooter overall, averageish defender, and makes 23 million a year.
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#48 » by jayu70 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:14 pm

dms269 wrote:Can someone try and explain to me what the appeal of Cam Johnson is? He is 28, plays in under 70% of games, decent 3p shooter but not a great shooter overall, averageish defender, and makes 23 million a year.
Appeal to whom?
He is in the Tobias Harris mold - decent but always overpaid (minus the missing games)?
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#49 » by jayu70 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:18 pm

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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#50 » by jayu70 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:21 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
dms269 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan here, what you guys want for Trae Young? guessing you guys are keeping Murray and possibly Capela

Whats Trae Young worth?
Reaves, DLO, RUI +2 pics maybe 2 nds?


D'Lo has minimal value. He is likely going to pick up his extension and will just be used as salary filler.
Rui is a good player but is too similar to other players already on the roster.
So that leaves us with Reaves and 2 picks for Trae, which I don't think gets Atlanta to bite. Maybe Murray but not Trae.


I thought you guys were keeping Murray, why I didn't mention him :)

Why do you think the preference is to keep Murray?
He's not a player you build your franchise around.
He's a very good complimentary piece.
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#51 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 3, 2024 4:50 pm

How can we benefit from this buffoon's stubbornness?

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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#52 » by dms269 » Fri May 3, 2024 4:55 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:How can we benefit from this buffoon's stubbornness?

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We have an established center they can have.
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#53 » by jayu70 » Fri May 3, 2024 5:06 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:How can we benefit from this buffoon's stubbornness?

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Capela for Nurkic and #22. Start OO, bring Nurk off the bench....draft a center at #22.
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#54 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 3, 2024 5:10 pm

This one is worth considering...

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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#55 » by dms269 » Fri May 3, 2024 6:00 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:How can we benefit from this buffoon's stubbornness?

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Capela for Nurkic and #22. Start OO, bring Nurk off the bench....draft a center at #22.
Love it

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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#56 » by dms269 » Fri May 3, 2024 6:01 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:This one is worth considering...

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I might prefer a future for more flexibility over 18 but it isn't awful.
I like the flexibility it gives us.

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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#57 » by jayu70 » Sun May 5, 2024 2:00 pm

Who should the Hawks target with the $23 million TPE (JC trade expires July 8th) and the $12.8 million MLE?

[Reminder: the TPE can be broken up into several players. Also New CBA now allows fir the MLE to be used to trade for a player]


2024 and 2025 Free Agent List:
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#58 » by dms269 » Sun May 5, 2024 2:07 pm

jayu70 wrote:Who should the Hawks target with the $23 million TPE (JC trade expires July 8th) and the $12.8 million MLE?


2024 and 2025 Free Agent List:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39854744/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2024-2025


I doubt we target anyone with the TPE and will probably just let it expire. Ressler isn't going to want to fork over that money.
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#59 » by jayu70 » Sun May 5, 2024 2:15 pm

dms269 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Who should the Hawks target with the $23 million TPE (JC trade expires July 8th) and the $12.8 million MLE?


2024 and 2025 Free Agent List:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39854744/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2024-2025


I doubt we target anyone with the TPE and will probably just let it expire. Ressler isn't going to want to fork over that money.

It doesn't need to be ONE player making $23 million. It can be 1 player making say $13 million, then use the balance in smaller trades as well. [Example: we traded for Bey $2 mil using the balance of the Huerter TPE].
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Re: Hawks Offseason Thread -- Summer 2024 

Post#60 » by Jamaaliver » Sun May 5, 2024 5:53 pm

I don't think Ingram is on pace for a $50+ million contract next summer.

Is he a worthy trade target?

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