DeJounte Murray on the trade block?

Post #202 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:10 pm

Is Scary Terry a better return on investment for Miami?

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Post #203 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:26 pm

Things are about to get real uncomfortable around here...

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M2J · Post #204 » by **M2J** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:08 pm

Philly 2026 pick and Morris?

Post #205 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:31 pm

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Post #206 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:36 pm

M2J wrote:Philly 2026 pick and Morris?

For a starting guard under reasonable contract for the next 4 years? :noway:

I'd rather hold out till the summer.

M2J · Post #207 » by **M2J** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:37 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
M2J wrote:Philly 2026 pick and Morris?

For a starting guard under reasonable contract for the next 4 years?

I'd rather hold out till the summer.

Plus 2 seconds?

Post #208 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:39 pm

M2J wrote:Plus 2 seconds?

LOL

I mean, maybe. If Dejounte starts misbehaving.

But the Philly 2026 pick is less attractive than the Lakers 2029 1st Round pick.

That thing could skyrocket in value whenever Lebron leaves.

M2J · Post #209 » by **M2J** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:49 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
M2J wrote:Plus 2 seconds?

LOL

I mean, maybe. If Dejounte starts misbehaving.

But the Philly 2026 pick is less attractive than the Lakers 2029 1st Round pick.

That thing could skyrocket in value whenever Lebron leaves.

Well that makes sense, but it seems that taking on Russell is a deterrent?

Whole Truth · Post #210 » by **Whole Truth** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:08 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
M2J wrote:Plus 2 seconds?

LOL

I mean, maybe. If Dejounte starts misbehaving.

But the Philly 2026 pick is less attractive than the Lakers 2029 1st Round pick.

That thing could skyrocket in value whenever Lebron leaves.

If Lakers are trading that pick better believe they have a plan for it. Part of the reason they're keeping Reaves 12m & trading Russell's 18m is to keep a cheap quality depth option while also getting a player like Murray on a team friendly contract. Watch the cap management of the deal ...

If Lakers don't manage to resign Lebron in 26 with both AD & Murray locked up for the next 3-4yrs.. They have more than 50m coming off the books in 26 with Davis, Murray friendly & Reaves 12m value, locked up

Lakers a free agent destination with more than 50m coming off the books in 26, can sign a max contract & a quality free agent. Reason they're also willing to do a 26/28 swap, they have someone/thing lined up. They know they have a good chance of protecting their picks value. Better believe they think they're basically trading Russell for Murray.

Alot can happen in 4-5 yrs, especially when you're a free agent draw like LA.

Now I don't know if my NO's team has made an offer for Murray but I'd argue our 27 Buck pick has a better chance of being quality than the Lakers 29. With Dame & Middleton most likely gone, Bucks are not the free agent draw LA is & would probably have to explore turning over Giannis value in trade & opt for a rebuild once Middleton & Dame age out where they don't have much in terms of assets to from now until then with NO's owning all their picks/swaps in between. With Middleton & Dames age, it would be equally hard to flip them for turnover value.

jayu70 · Post #211 » by **jayu70** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:54 pm

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Post #212 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:34 pm

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Makes sense. Why force a deal when there isn't one. We can instead just try to find greater balance between DJ-led minutes and Trae-led minutes and do a better job including both players in the offense when they share the court.

Also, there's decent chance we could trade Murray plus our pick on draft night to move into the top-3 if we fall in love with a prospect.

jayu70 · Post #213 » by **jayu70** » Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:36 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
jayu70 wrote:

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Makes sense. Why force a deal when there isn't one. We can instead just try to find greater balance between DJ-led minutes and Trae-led minutes and do a better job including both players in the offense when they share the court.

Also, there's decent chance we could trade Murray plus our pick on draft night to move into the top-3 if we fall in love with a prospect.

Wether true or not, finally glad to see some push back from the ATL regarding the LAL heavy trade rumors due to their lack of assets.

Post #214 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:25 am

From the night of the Mavs game. This jibes with what we saw in the Magic game where Dejounte gets a rebound with seconds left, looks off Trae, ignores the TO call by Quin and forces a contested mid range jump shot in the closing seconds.

The shot went in and won us the game, but the signs were there regarding Dejounte going 'rogue' on offense.

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tbhawksfan1 · Post #215 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:09 am

Snyder trying to play back the rift is a longshot. Once things go bad between people it's very hard to get it back...maybe just wants to wait until the summer to do something with no interesting offer

Post #216 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jan 30, 2024 1:21 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:Snyder trying to play back the rift is a longshot. Once things go bad between people it's very hard to get it back...maybe just wants to wait until the summer to do something with no interesting offer

Do we think the rift is between Dejounte and Quin --- or between Dejounte and management?
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Crunch 99 · Post #217 » by **Crunch 99** » Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:50 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:Snyder trying to play back the rift is a longshot. Once things go bad between people it's very hard to get it back...maybe just wants to wait until the summer to do something with no interesting offer

Do we think the rift is between Dejounte and Quin --- or between Dejounte and management?

At the time the Hawks hired Quin, someone on the Jazz board posted that Quin was given some control over personnel decisions as part of the deal, but they didn't cite anything. Is this accurate? Current Real GM article says he wants to keep Murray.

Post #218 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:53 pm

Crunch 99 wrote:At the time the Hawks hired Quin, someone on the Jazz board posted that Quin was given some control over personnel decisions as part of the deal. Is that accurate? Current Real GM article says he wants to keep Murray.

He doesn't have official control, but it's been speculated that he has significant input on personnel.

At this point, I suspect management would choose him over Trae if it came down to it.

(With that said, Murray would have never been on the trade block if Quin hadn't signed off on it in the first place.)

tbhawksfan1 · Post #219 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:27 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Crunch 99 wrote:At the time the Hawks hired Quin, someone on the Jazz board posted that Quin was given some control over personnel decisions as part of the deal. Is that accurate? Current Real GM article says he wants to keep Murray.

He doesn't have official control, but it's been speculated that he has significant input on personnel.

At this point, I suspect management would choose him over Trae if it came down to it.

(With that said, Murray would have never been on the trade block if Quin hadn't signed off on it in the first place.)

... unless Murray wants out

jayu70 · Post #220 » by **jayu70** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am

Via Brett Siegel re Lakers offer of Russel, Hood scegino and 1st

In search of more value, the offer was rapidly turned down by the Hawks, especially since they don't want Russell in any deal for Murray.Over the course of the last week, there have been no new developments regarding Murray, the Hawks, or the Lakers. However, many around the league still view Los Angeles as the top team pursuing Murray.