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Post#241 » by CP War Hawks » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:31 pm

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Sam Vecenie wrote:The Hawks took fewer 3s than anyone in the NBA this season on a per-shot basis and put very little pressure on the rim. Despite this, they were still a top-10 offense because Trae Young is that good of a creative force. With Bogdan Bogdanović’s injury history seeing him generally miss about 20 games per season and Dejounte Murray’s contract running out at the end of next season, it might make sense for them to look toward the combo guard market in this class, which is quite diverse in terms of skill set. But really, the Hawks can just take whoever they see as the best player available.
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The main reason for the low 3 rate was because of the frontcourt. CC is negative zero outside the paint and Collins shot nose dove. Their backups were hardly any better shooting it, but it's promise with the younger guys. Drafting another guard isn't going to help much here. 3 and D forwards and bigs will help in that area.
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CP War Hawks wrote:Wemby is going to play pf once the Spurs find a decent center to pair him with. Dude has skinny calves and thighs, guys can get under him at the poa.


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He shot that over a 6-5, 35 year old. Wemby will eventually be unstoppable with a complimentary pg and roster. He's not going to just shoot like KD starting out.
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Post#245 » by HMFFL » Mon Jun 5, 2023 7:44 pm

Scoot Henderson Will Only Workout for Two Teams

The top guard prospect has made his plans known.

Henderson isn't worried about meeting with the team that owns the top pick of the draft but he's also not all that interested in working out for 27 other teams. According to Sean Highkin of the Rose Garden Report, Henderson plans to work out for just two teams - the Charlotte Hornets and the Portland Trail Blazers.

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Post#246 » by graymule » Tue Jun 6, 2023 1:02 pm

:D

I had a favorite for the Hawks to draft. Duke center has now apparently moved up so high that he's expected
to be gone before out #15 pick arrives.

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Post#248 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 6, 2023 1:43 pm

Looking at this list of invitees, it appears Hawks may be strongly considering moving back in the draft. These guys feel more likely to go between 25-35 than anywhere near15.

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Post#249 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 6, 2023 2:42 pm

NBA Draft Predictions

Ben Sheppard Goes Top 20



Ben Sheppard spent the past season putting up big numbers, but since he compiled them at Belmont—and never faced a ranked team—NBA teams were perhaps uncertain how much stock to put in those stats.

Then, Sheppard took a blowtorch to his competition at the combine, and it appears everyone is finally on board.

You could argue they should have been there all along. It's hard to sneeze at any Division I hooper going for 18.8 points a night while shooting 47.5 percent from the field and 41.5 percent from distance. But for those numbers to come from a 6'6" guard who can run pick-and-rolls, score on the move and defend multiple positions, you'd think this league would be all over him.

Maybe they will be after he cooked his competition at the combine. In his final scrimmage, he erupted for 25 points on 8-of-10 shooting (3-of-5 from range) with four rebounds, three assists and two steals in 20 minutes.

He looks like a plug-and-play, starting-caliber 2-guard at the NBA level. Teams won't let a prospect like that sit on the board for too long.

You may not see Sheppard listed on every mock first round you'll find, but when the real event gets rolling, he'll be among the top 20 players selected.
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Post#250 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 6, 2023 3:20 pm

Might be the new Desmond Bane...

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Post#251 » by King Ken » Tue Jun 6, 2023 5:19 pm

A player to look into is Noah Clowney. He has a lot of Jaden McDaniels in his game
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Post#252 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jun 8, 2023 2:40 pm

Dereck Lively II on the rise



The top recruit in the 2022 high school class before an underwhelming freshman season at Duke, Lively did himself a huge favor with stellar showings at the major pro days in Chicago and Los Angeles.

The 7-foot-2, 230-pound Philadelphia native showcased his uber athleticism and phenomenal shooting touch from both mid and three-point range. At one point Lively made 14 consecutive corner 3s with NBA scouts in the gym.That’s a major contrast to going 2 of 13 during his year at Duke. He suffered an injury early in the season and never looked right once he came back, especially with 7-footer Kyle Filipowski playing so well down the stretch for the Blue Devils. Lively finished the year averaging 5.2 points and 5.4 rebounds in 20 minutes per night.

“The NBA spacing and freedom cater more to Lively’s playing style,” Yahoo Sports NBA Draft analyst Krysten Peek writes. “He’s showing more of a versatile and aggressive version of himself throughout the pre-draft process.”

His multifaceted play style has helped his stock tremendously during the pre draft process, and it seems like the NBA game will compliment his skill set better than the college game did. Also keep in mind that this was the first Duke basketball season without Coach K at the helm since 1980. Peek has him slated to go to Utah at No. 16 in her latest NBA mock draft, but anyone picking after the Spurs that is looking for a center could make a solid case for Lively.
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Post#255 » by HMFFL » Thu Jun 8, 2023 11:05 pm

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Atlanta Hawks predicted to land ‘fast-rising’ prospect in 2023 NBA Draft

by Joshua Buckhalter1 day ago

The Atlanta Hawks have the No. 15 overall pick in the 2023 NBA Draft on June 22.

They also have the No. 46 overall pick. But their first-round slot could be a real turning point in the draft, and it is not just because it is the first pick outside the lottery.

In their latest mock draft, Kevin O’Connor and Michael Pina of The Ringer project the Hawks to take Metropolitan 92s star Bilal Coulibaly. Being the teammate of presumed No. 1 overall pick Victor Wembanyama, Coulibaly flew under the radar this past season.

“Drafting wings is nothing new to the Hawks, and it’s a necessity on a team built around Trae Young,” reads Coulibaly’s profile entry. “Coulibaly’s steady progress for Mets 92 has thrust him into the lottery conversation, as he’s shown more than just 3-and-D skills.

The entry goes on to describe Coulibaly as a “Fast-rising prospect” noting that he is “luring in teams with his defense and intriguing offensive flashes.”



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Post#256 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Jun 9, 2023 1:53 pm

Five upperclassmen for contenders to target in 2023 NBA Draft

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If you didn't know who Nuggets guard Christian Braun was before Game 3 of the NBA Finals, you certainly do now.

The rookie out of Kansas had his breakout game of the postseason, providing a spark off the bench with 15 points on 7-of-8 shooting from the field. Braun just flat-out plays winning basketball. He can knock down catch-and-shoot 3s, he has incredible instincts as a cutter, he competes on the defensive end and his athleticism shines as a 6-6, 220-pound wing. Star center Nikola Jokic even went as far as to say that Braun "won us the game."

While he was a key cog in leading the Jayhawks to a National Championship during his junior season, being an older prospect, teams shied away from Braun early in the first round of the 2022 NBA Draft. This begs the question: Which upperclassmen in the 2023 NBA Draft class could be this year's Braun?

Colby Jones | Xavier | Guard

Height & weight: 6-6, 205 lbs.
Year: Junior

When I was watching Denver's Christian Braun's impact in Game 3, the first player who came to mind in this year's draft class was Jones.

As a 6-6 guard who can also play on the wing, Jones is like a ball of clay that can mold into whatever his team needs. He can initiate offense as a lead guard and make plays for his teammates. He can play off the ball and score inside as an active cutter. He improved as a shooter, knocking down 37.8 percent of his 3s as a junior compared to 29.2 percent as a sophomore, and he rebounds at a high level for his position. His 6-8 wingspan allows him to defend multiple positions on the perimeter.

He reminds me of Knicks wing Josh Hart, who made a massive impact in New York's playoff run after the trade deadline. Jones should be available in the 20s. A contender would be wise to scoop him up.

Olivier-Maxence Prosper | Marquette | Forward

Height & weight: 6-8, 230 lbs.
Year: Junior

Prosper was one of the breakout stars of the 2023 NBA Draft Combine.

Versatility is the key word for "O-Max," who stands at 6-8 and 230 pounds with a lengthy 7-foot-1 wingspan. He brings unlimited energy on defense. He plays with a high IQ on that end of the floor, sliding his feet on the ball and positioning himself to help or jump passing lanes for steals off the ball.

He's still developing on the offensive end, but he showed potential to attack off the dribble or score as a cutter during the combine scrimmages. More importantly for his NBA role, he showed growth as a 3-point shooter this past season, converting almost 34 percent of his 115 attempts from long range.

Don't be surprised to see Prosper work his way into the late first round of this year's draft.

Kris Murray | Iowa | Forward

Height & weight: 6-8, 220 lbs
Year: Junior

I'm already confident in Murray's ability to contribute at the NBA level because his game is uncannily similar to his twin, Keegan, who was a top-five pick by the Kings last year.

Kris is 6-8 and 220 pounds with a near-7-foot wingspan. He took a major leap during his junior season at Iowa, filling his brother's shoes to average 20.2 points, 7.9 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.2 blocks and 1.0 steals per game. He's becoming more fluid as a scorer, and he can defend multiple positions on the wing and in the paint. His key to success will be finding the same shooting consistency as his brother from 3-point range, but he converted an honest 34.8 percent in college to show the potential is there.

The most ironic part is Murray should be available right around the time Sacramento picks at No. 24.

Jalen Wilson | Kansas | Forward

Height & weight: 6-8, 225 lbs.
Year: Junior

I understand that there are some concerns about Wilson's shooting consistency and decision-making, but I stand firm as a believer that he can carve out a role in the NBA.

As a 6-8, 225-pound forward with one of the most relentless motors in college basketball, Wilson is going to give you everything he has on every play. He's a competitor on defense and a workhorse on the glass. He scores as a cutter and isn't shy as a shooter, improving from 26.3 percent from the perimeter last season to 33.7 percent this season. He's even shown some playmaking chops, making simple reads on the attack.

He was one of the most productive players in the country because of his energy, averaging 20.1 points, 8.3 rebounds and 2.2 assists per game. They say you can't teach heart and you can't teach effort, two things that Wilson has plenty of to contribute to winning.

Julian Strawther | Gonzaga | Forward

Height & weight: 6-7, 205 lbs.
Year: Junior

Strawther is an outlier on this list because he's the only prospect whose strongest attribute is his shooting.

The Gonzaga wing knocked down 40.8 percent of 196 3-point attempts this season. He proved he can shoot it off the catch and off of screens, and he even showed some promise off the dribble. His deep 3-pointer to win the game against UCLA was one of the signature moments of the NCAA Tournament, and it showcased his NBA range and his quick catch-and-shoot threat.

He's a quick and intelligent perimeter defender, and he'll be an asset to any contending team that needs a 3-and-D, plug-and-play-type player. He should be available in the second round, lurking as a potential steal, too.
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Post#258 » by D21 » Fri Jun 9, 2023 4:43 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:Assuming the Hawks get the 15-16th pick, I'm keying on Hendricks and Rupert.


Both of those guys interest me as well. Rupert in particular sounds a bit like a longer, taller, younger Dejounte Murray.

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Rayan Rupert | New Zealand Breakers (NBL) | France

Lockdown defender who shows flashes on offense and could eventually become a complete player



6'6" | 192 lbs | 19 years old
SHADES OF: Mikal Bridges, Otto Porter

PLUSES
  • Harasses opponents using his 7-foot-3 wingspan. He can pressure the ball handler taking the ball up the floor or disrupt opponent actions in the half court by slipping around screens. Effort is not a concern.
  • Active hands in all situations on defense. He jumps passing lanes and attentively looks for chances to pickpocket unsuspecting post players. He might someday lead the league in deflections.
  • Skilled ball handler who looks fluid dribbling into pull-up jumpers even if his results as a scorer aren’t there yet. With his height and length, he can shoot over the top of any defender.
  • Potential secondary creator who could bring the ball up the floor and motor by defenders in transition to get to the basket. He makes some tasty passes such as crosscourt skips to corner 3-point shooters, and he follows up by relocating behind the arc.
  • Savvy mover without the ball. He looks for chances to cut to the basket, and he has the athleticism and touch to finish.
  • He comes from a highly accomplished basketball family. He’s the son of French national team captain Thierry Rupert, and his sister, Iliana, was a WNBA first-round draft pick who won a championship her rookie season.

MINUSES
  • Suffered a broken wrist in early November that sidelined him for two months.
  • Doesn’t handle contact well. He opts for pull-up 2s and floaters rather than leaning into defenders to get to the rim.
  • Streaky shooter who looks the part but hasn’t seen any consistency from 3 or midrange. The only saving grace is that he’s a solid free throw shooter with soft touch around the basket.
  • He’s a defensive ace overseas but will need to be more selective about when to go for steals in the NBA.
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If they don't target an older player to get instant impact, I start to think that this guy could be a good option.
Watched again some highlights, and his wingspan (and standing reach) are impressive. I don't know the real level of the New Zealand league but he can pass the ball over any defender with his length and looks not afraid to take shots.
Still work to do but the potential is there.

And he might like the idea to play in ATL since his sister Iliana will play with the Dream starting late June once the Women Eurobasket is finished.
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Post#259 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Jun 9, 2023 6:06 pm

Can't see a team drafting him in the top 45. A two-way deal feels more likely.

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Post#260 » by CP War Hawks » Fri Jun 9, 2023 7:48 pm

D21 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:Assuming the Hawks get the 15-16th pick, I'm keying on Hendricks and Rupert.


Both of those guys interest me as well. Rupert in particular sounds a bit like a longer, taller, younger Dejounte Murray.

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Rayan Rupert | New Zealand Breakers (NBL) | France

Lockdown defender who shows flashes on offense and could eventually become a complete player



6'6" | 192 lbs | 19 years old
SHADES OF: Mikal Bridges, Otto Porter

PLUSES
  • Harasses opponents using his 7-foot-3 wingspan. He can pressure the ball handler taking the ball up the floor or disrupt opponent actions in the half court by slipping around screens. Effort is not a concern.
  • Active hands in all situations on defense. He jumps passing lanes and attentively looks for chances to pickpocket unsuspecting post players. He might someday lead the league in deflections.
  • Skilled ball handler who looks fluid dribbling into pull-up jumpers even if his results as a scorer aren’t there yet. With his height and length, he can shoot over the top of any defender.
  • Potential secondary creator who could bring the ball up the floor and motor by defenders in transition to get to the basket. He makes some tasty passes such as crosscourt skips to corner 3-point shooters, and he follows up by relocating behind the arc.
  • Savvy mover without the ball. He looks for chances to cut to the basket, and he has the athleticism and touch to finish.
  • He comes from a highly accomplished basketball family. He’s the son of French national team captain Thierry Rupert, and his sister, Iliana, was a WNBA first-round draft pick who won a championship her rookie season.

MINUSES
  • Suffered a broken wrist in early November that sidelined him for two months.
  • Doesn’t handle contact well. He opts for pull-up 2s and floaters rather than leaning into defenders to get to the rim.
  • Streaky shooter who looks the part but hasn’t seen any consistency from 3 or midrange. The only saving grace is that he’s a solid free throw shooter with soft touch around the basket.
  • He’s a defensive ace overseas but will need to be more selective about when to go for steals in the NBA.
The Ringer -- NBA Draft Guide


If they don't target an older player to get instant impact, I start to think that this guy could be a good option.
Watched again some highlights, and his wingspan (and standing reach) are impressive. I don't know the real level of the New Zealand league but he can pass the ball over any defender with his length and looks not afraid to take shots.
Still work to do but the potential is there.

And he might like the idea to play in ATL since his sister Iliana will play with the Dream starting late June once the Women Eurobasket is finished.


I've since cooled on him. I'm worried about his lateral foot speed, it seems similar to AJG and Slo Mo. But has high character qualities and will play defense like his life depended on it. His vertical pop is scaring me off too, same vibes from Reddish during the draft process.

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