Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

[Slim Charless]

And he's only 19 years old.

The question is, if you are a team like Dallas, can he help you right now?

That is a good question. I imagine he's as close as any 19 year old rookie will be from this draft class...

I wonder if Dallas would prefer an established Center like Capela or an up-and-coming star like Onyeka.

Would you guys do an Ayton trade in the summer? I would think the deal is Capella and Collins for him. Like KK said, Okongwu is a 4 and needs to be with a big that has range and some skill scoring the ball.

[Jamaaliver]

Would you guys do an Ayton trade in the summer? I would think the deal is Capella and Collins for him. Like KK said, Okongwu is a 4 and needs to be with a big that has range and some skill scoring the ball.

Nothing is off the table anymore, Slim. And Ayton is a worthy target.

Word is Quin Snyder is now calling the shots in regards to personnel; I'm not sure Ayton is the kind of player he'd look to build around.

But that's pure conjecture.

[Slim Charless]

Would you guys do an Ayton trade in the summer? I would think the deal is Capella and Collins for him. Like KK said, Okongwu is a 4 and needs to be with a big that has range and some skill scoring the ball.

Nothing is off the table anymore, Slim. And Ayton is a worthy target.

Word is Quin Snyder is now calling the shots in regards to personnel; I'm not sure Ayton is the kind of player he'd look to build around.

But that's pure conjecture.

Yeah, that's why I purposed that trade, I wanted Quinn to be hired by my Suns. He's a smart guy and could use Ayton better than we currently are. Collins just looks over it imo. Needs a change and so does Ayton tbh.

[CP War Hawks]

The question is, if you are a team like Dallas, can he help you right now?

That is a good question. I imagine he's as close as any 19 year old rookie will be from this draft class...

I wonder if Dallas would prefer an established Center like Capela or an up-and-coming star like Onyeka.

Would you guys do an Ayton trade in the summer? I would think the deal is Capella and Collins for him. Like KK said, Okongwu is a 4 and needs to be with a big that has range and some skill scoring the ball.

It's something to consider, I think the Hawks current frontcourt compliments KD and Booker very well.

[King Ken]

That is a good question. I imagine he's as close as any 19 year old rookie will be from this draft class...

I wonder if Dallas would prefer an established Center like Capela or an up-and-coming star like Onyeka.

Would you guys do an Ayton trade in the summer? I would think the deal is Capella and Collins for him. Like KK said, Okongwu is a 4 and needs to be with a big that has range and some skill scoring the ball.

It's something to consider, I think the Hawks current frontcourt compliments KD and Booker very well.

Extremely well. I would consider. Even if I don't love Ayton. He at least got some range. This is one of them trades where we make PHX way better but we really didn't get worse tho

Money wise, who also coming from PHX. Ayton is not enough. They need at least 5.7 mil. Cam Payne works

[Slim Charless]

Would you guys do an Ayton trade in the summer? I would think the deal is Capella and Collins for him. Like KK said, Okongwu is a 4 and needs to be with a big that has range and some skill scoring the ball.

It's something to consider, I think the Hawks current frontcourt compliments KD and Booker very well.

Extremely well. I would consider. Even if I don't love Ayton. He at least got some range. This is one of them trades where we make PHX way better but we really didn't get worse tho

Money wise, who also coming from PHX. Ayton is not enough. They need at least 5.7 mil. Cam Payne works

Shamet would be my choice. He's in for 10 this year but his deal is not guaranteed for the rest. CamP is important to us as we need a b/u for CP3.

[D21]

Would you guys do an Ayton trade in the summer? I would think the deal is Capella and Collins for him. Like KK said, Okongwu is a 4 and needs to be with a big that has range and some skill scoring the ball.

I don't see any benefit in trading for Ayton without making a lot of other trades, and there are certainly simpler ways to improve.
PHX wanted to trade him last summer, and again this mid-season, they matched to not lose him for nothing, but if they think they would be better with another C, why would ATL think the opposite?
If they replace Capela for example, it has to be for one C really shooting 3s, like Turner. Having Turner/Okongwu would give far more options and mismatches than Okongwu/Ayton, even if Ayton can spread the floor more than Capela
And they would be better on defense with Turner than with Ayton, for sure

[Jamaaliver]

Any interest in the Portland pick if it falls out of the top-4?

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[atlantabbq99]

Any interest in the Portland pick if it falls out of the top-4?

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Collins and Hunter (#15) are expendable...

[Jamaaliver]

Any interest in the Portland pick if it falls out of the top-4?

Collins and Hunter (#15) are expendable...

Agreed, but I'm not sure those two players have the trade value to garner a top-5 pick...even with a weak draft, Blazers likely would have better trade options elsewhere.


I'm thinking Clint Capela + #15 for #5 overall.

[DaddyCool19]

If Mavs tried to trade #10 pick + salary filler for Capela, we'd have to take that package, right?

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Of course, I'm willing to add in pick 16 for the top ten pick if Hendrix is there.

Edit: Bertans is their only filler salary so no trade swap, maybe Hardy could be tagged with the deal. DB has two years remaining we'd probably have to eat. Hell maybe Quinn can get another career shooting year out of him and flip him at some point...

Bertans contract is toxic. Tim Hardaway Jr has one year left.

If Bertans doesn't play 61-62 games, his last year is only guaranteed for 5M. That's not that horrible.

[dlb731]

Any interest in the Portland pick if it falls out of the top-4?

Collins and Hunter (#15) are expendable...

Agreed, but I'm not sure those two players have the trade value to garner a top-5 pick...even with a weak draft, Blazers likely would have better trade options elsewhere.


I'm thinking Clint Capela + #15 for #5 overall.

The big question is... Who would they target at 5?

[Jamaaliver]

The big question is... Who would they target at 5?

That is a very good question. Ummm....


If Hawks can get off Capela's contract and move into the top-10 of the draft, I feel like it opens up a number of options for the team.

• Should they keep the pick and simply extend Bey and Okongwu this summer?
• Do they package the pick with Collins, Hunter for an established Forward to help them take the next step?
• Do they use this last opportunity to draft a cornerstone player to play next to Trae and DJM?

Of the prospects on the board around #5, I'd consider Cam Whitmore or one of the Thompson Twins.

[jayu70]

The big question is... Who would they target at 5?

That is a very good question. Ummm....


If Hawks can get off Capela's contract and move into the top-10 of the draft, I feel like it opens up a number of options for the team.

• Should they keep the pick and simply extend Bey and Okongwu this summer?
• Do they package the pick with Collins, Hunter for an established Forward to help them take the next step?
• Do they use this last opportunity to draft a cornerstone player to play next to Trae and DJM?

Of the prospects on the board around #5, I'd consider Cam Whitmore or one of the Thompson Twins.

All suitable questions/options.
How much do you see Bey and Okongwu getting as early extension signees?

[CP War Hawks]

Couldn't imagine Capela in part, having enough value to bring in pick 5. I'd still take Hendrix or Whitmore atp.

[Jamaaliver]

Couldn't imagine Capela in part, having enough value to bring in pick 5. I'd still take Hendrix or Whitmore atp.

I do like Taylor Hendricks...a lot.

How much do you see Bey and Okongwu getting as early extension signees?

In this new environment?
With the rising cap?
Where even disappointing players like Hunter get a $90+ million deal?

[jayu70]

Couldn't imagine Capela in part, having enough value to bring in pick 5. I'd still take Hendrix or Whitmore atp.

I do like Taylor Hendricks...a lot.

How much do you see Bey and Okongwu getting as early extension signees?

In this new environment?
With the rising cap?
Where even disappointing players like Hunter get a $90+ million deal?

It was reported that Bey is looking for a Hunter like contract, that was why Detroit traded him.
OO is harder to price...who are his comparables.

[HMFFL]

Looking at our payroll, I believe Bey, and OO are keepers. I see many high contracts that we need to move on from. This off-season should be a busy one.

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[Jamaaliver]

It was reported that Bey is looking for a Hunter like contract, that was why Detroit traded him.
OO is harder to price...who are his comparables.

Okongwu's people will argue he's on par with JJJ, Bam and Evan Mobley.
He's probably closer to Robert Williams III, Aaron Gordon or OG Anunoby.


Saddiq is likely to be extended around $15 million+ per year. Close to what Bogdanovic received from us a few years ago.

[CP War Hawks]

It was reported that Bey is looking for a Hunter like contract, that was why Detroit traded him.
OO is harder to price...who are his comparables.

Okongwu's people will argue he's on par with JJJ, Bam and Evan Mobley.
He's probably closer to Robert Williams III, Aaron Gordon or OG Anunoby.


Saddiq is likely to be extended around $15 million+ per year. Close to what Bogdanovic received from us a few years ago.

Hawks have to learn from past extensions. Bey is a backup on a playoff team. If he wants more than merited, just trade him. OO is tricky, but if his people insist on 25+ work on a trade too.

It's silly if the Hawks use their full exceptions they would have to pay massive penalties. It's a total mismanagement of team salary.