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Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:59 am
by 31to6
Fierce1 wrote:
Triple M wrote:The bench guys that continued to play hard on defense and made multiple efforts shiws how well coached the team is right now. Every one is buying into Mazzulla ball

:lol:

Some might disagree with you on that.


Cs have a 10 game lead in the East, a historic point differential, and a 6.5 game lead on the West. To do that, it's a pretty good bet that they also have a good coaching staff -- even if some posters will sometimes tell you otherwise -- and are on the same page as that coaching staff.

This is one benefit of strategically sitting guys right now -- guys 7 -- 14 are hungry to show what they can do, and it's helping the team maintain an edge.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 am
by Shak_Celts
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Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 am
by Fierce1
31to6 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Triple M wrote:The bench guys that continued to play hard on defense and made multiple efforts shiws how well coached the team is right now. Every one is buying into Mazzulla ball

:lol:

Some might disagree with you on that.


Cs have a 10 game lead in the East, a historic point differential, and a 6.5 game lead on the West. To do that, it's a pretty good bet that they also have a good coaching staff -- even if some posters will sometimes tell you otherwise -- and are on the same page as that coaching staff.

This is one benefit of strategically sitting guys right now -- guys 7 -- 14 are hungry to show what they can do, and it's helping the team maintain an edge.

It's simple as if the players don't buy in to what the coach is selling, it will be a disaster, like what happened to Brad and the Celtics in 2021.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:09 am
by Celts17Pride
Now to put on my green colored glasses,

If Springer works on his three point shooting this offseason, we could be looking at a DWhite-lite type of player next year. Springer does a lot of good things, just very young. Could easily see Springer in the rotation next year

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:12 am
by Objectivity
Fierce1 wrote:Looks like JB is 90% of his full potential.

He just needs to eliminate or minimize the stupid mistakes.

JB is now like a smaller version of Shawn Kemp.


I don’t think JBs game is analogous to Kemp.

Kemp had extreme hops. One of the most athletic dunkers we will ever see. A smooth handle. Cerebral feel for the game. Hook shots & 15 footer.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:13 am
by Mr_Mojo_Risin
Doesn't matter who's in, who's out or if it's a trap game or big game. This team plays together on offense and defense and is clear on their roles.

The sign of a well coached team, regardless of talent.

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Gotta go Derrick for VC.

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Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:16 am
by Smart2Nesmith43
Don't have too many notes about that one besides it was fun and let's do the same things to the Bucks Wednesday.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:30 am
by Fierce1
Objectivity wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Looks like JB is 90% of his full potential.

He just needs to eliminate or minimize the stupid mistakes.

JB is now like a smaller version of Shawn Kemp.


I don’t think JBs game is analogous to Kemp.

Kemp had extreme hops. One of the most athletic dunkers we will ever see. A smooth handle. Cerebral feel for the game. Hook shots & 15 footer.

Guess you didn't know JB was in the dunk contest. :lol:

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:31 am
by Fierce1
Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:Doesn't matter who's in, who's out or if it's a trap game or big game. This team plays together on offense and defense and is clear on their roles.

The sign of a well coached team, regardless of talent.

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Gotta go Derrick for VC.

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True. :nod:

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:37 am
by Fierce1
There's one thing Brad and Ime couldn't do with this group, it's to make the Jays buy in.

Apparently the Jays are buying in to what Joe is selling and that's the most important thing, the star players on the same page with the coach.

Joe is also naive.

He lets guys get their flowers, so to speak.

Like in this game, there was no need for White to play 37 minutes, but because Joe knows how big a deal it is for White to have his triple-double, Joe left White in until got it.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:40 am
by Objectivity
Fierce1 wrote:
Objectivity wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Looks like JB is 90% of his full potential.

He just needs to eliminate or minimize the stupid mistakes.

JB is now like a smaller version of Shawn Kemp.


I don’t think JBs game is analogous to Kemp.

Kemp had extreme hops. One of the most athletic dunkers we will ever see. A smooth handle. Cerebral feel for the game. Hook shots & 15 footer.

Guess you didn't know JB was in the dunk contest. :lol:


Go look at the Edwards dunk on Collins. Shawn Kempesque.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:43 am
by Fierce1
Objectivity wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Objectivity wrote:
I don’t think JBs game is analogous to Kemp.

Kemp had extreme hops. One of the most athletic dunkers we will ever see. A smooth handle. Cerebral feel for the game. Hook shots & 15 footer.

Guess you didn't know JB was in the dunk contest. :lol:


Go look at the Edwards dunk on Collins. Shawn Kempesque.

It's not just about dunks, it's also about power and finesse.

JB and Kemp have both.

Heading into the the 2016 Draftm the scouting report on JB was he's athletic.

Saying that he doesn't have hops is just not true.

I'm not the biggest JB fan, I'm a Tatum guy, but right now JB is an All-NBA player.

It is what it is.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:46 am
by zoyathedestroya
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8 rotation guys who can shoot above average from 3. They’re better off leaning on their strength. They’re getting good wide open looks within the offense.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:46 am
by Fierce1
Objectivity wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Objectivity wrote:
I don’t think JBs game is analogous to Kemp.

Kemp had extreme hops. One of the most athletic dunkers we will ever see. A smooth handle. Cerebral feel for the game. Hook shots & 15 footer.

Guess you didn't know JB was in the dunk contest. :lol:


Go look at the Edwards dunk on Collins. Shawn Kempesque.

Here's Kempesque, Jaylen Brown style.

Watch on YouTube

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:58 am
by Objectivity
Fierce1 wrote:
Objectivity wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Guess you didn't know JB was in the dunk contest. :lol:


Go look at the Edwards dunk on Collins. Shawn Kempesque.

It's not just about dunks, it's also about power and finesse.

JB and Kemp have both.

Heading into the the 2016 Draftm the scouting report on JB was he's athletic.

Saying that he doesn't have hops is just not true.

I'm not the biggest JB fan, I'm a Tatum guy, but right now JB is an All-NBA player.

It is what it is.


Ok. I respect your opinion, but I believe we have different definitions of finesse. I think players like Irving, Derick White, Trey Young, Jamal Murrray, Tony Parker etc when it comes to finesse.

JB is an above average athlete but not the same as Eric Gordon, Kemp, Edwards, Vince, or even Kobe when comparing hops. Too many others to name.

I do agree he TRIES to dunk a lot more. I think his game would improve if he learned some finesse moves.

If JB squeezes into 3rd team, it will be based on a rule he helped enforce. The games played rule. He’s not an All NBA caliber player imo.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:01 am
by Fierce1
Objectivity wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Objectivity wrote:
Go look at the Edwards dunk on Collins. Shawn Kempesque.

It's not just about dunks, it's also about power and finesse.

JB and Kemp have both.

Heading into the the 2016 Draftm the scouting report on JB was he's athletic.

Saying that he doesn't have hops is just not true.

I'm not the biggest JB fan, I'm a Tatum guy, but right now JB is an All-NBA player.

It is what it is.


Ok. I respect your opinion, but I believe we have different definitions of finesse. I think players like Irving, Derick White, Trey Young, Jamal Murrray, Tony Parker etc when it comes to finesse.

JB is an above average athlete but not the same as Eric Gordon, Kemp, Edwards, Vince, or even Kobe when comparing hops. Too many others to name.

I do agree he TRIES to dunk a lot more. I think his game would improve if he learned some finesse moves.

If JB squeezes into 3rd team, it will be based on a rule he helped enforce. The games played rule. He’s not an All NBA caliber player imo.

Rules are rules.

You can't be a part-time NBA player anymore.

Playing 65 or more games a season is a feat in itself.

The players today are stronger and faster.

More injuries happen because of that.

That's why being able to play 65 or more games is a big deal.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:10 am
by darrendaye
Was very happy to see D White get his 1st triple double. Pritchard has been ballin' out and Springer had a good outing.

Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:25 am
by ConstableGeneva
He knew. His turnovers happened trying to hunt for the final assist.
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Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:44 am
by Mr_Mojo_Risin
ConstableGeneva wrote:He knew. His turnovers happened trying to hunt for the final assist.
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Luka and Embiid reading this tweet:

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Re: De-troit De-molished! Victory Cigar vs DET 3/18

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:04 am
by Sikk_Handlez
if the C's maintain this point differential (+11.7) that will be an all time record? confirm/deny?