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Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19

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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#241 » by Bar Fight » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:03 am

BK_2020 wrote:Why doesn't Joe shake things up with the offense? It's only the 2nd best in the league and also the history of the NBA. It's so obvious to us fans that serious, foundational changes with the offense needs to happen. We even lost our 10th game already.

This feels eerily similar to posts from this time last season
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#242 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:09 am

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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:When you look up and realize we lost to Minny, lost to OkC, got smoked by the Bucks and the two wins we got against those teams we scraped by with our lives, this is no surprise.

That was really elite level of basketball by Denver though. Concerning that we really couldn’t even tickle Jokic in this game, we let him play like he was on his own. Jaylen was awful for the most part but was pretty good defensively on Murray in that 4th. Three ball went away and we had nothing again. Hauser, Pritchard and Kornet absolutely useless in big games again. What was the success rate of that lil zone we run? I bet not high because I saw Murray cook it for like 5 pts in 30 seconds. Holiday was absolutely **** useless in a big game AGAIN.

Another game that highlights all the problems that the ‘it’s only January, we have the best record in the league’ crowd closes their eyes on. Same problems we have seen for YEARS.

2-4 against the other top 4 teams in the league, 1-3 vs the top 3 in the West. When the talent evens itself out, we struggle win. It’s all out right in front of us.


Concerning that we couldn't tickle Jokic this game, or handle Murray? Denver brought a playoff attitude, what did we expect to do with Jokic?

Do we not realize he had a post season better than even Steph Curry ever had? Jokic has been the best player in the NBA for 4 years. He may be the most offensively impactful player of all time. The dude faced Rudy Gobert, Ayton, AD and Bam last post season - the best defensive bigs (outside of Ayton) in the game and averaged 30/14/10 on 56/46/80 for an entire post season run. There's nothing we can do to stop him. Same with Murray gave em 26/7/6 on 48/40/95.

Denver is WAY too well coached, and Jokic is way too smart for any defense to figure out how to stifle he and Murray's two man game when it matters.

We're good enough to beat those guys. But if we're anything lesser than our absolute best for an entire series, we can get through them.

Championship goes through them, not us


I expected us to make it hard on him. He made everything look so easy. As a duo, there was a point where they scored 66 out of 69 pts. It was a remarkable game from them. Controlled the entire pace, got to all their spots. It was incredible to watch. I actually thought in the last few minutes we did well on them though, I liked Jaylen’s defense on Murray towards the end. He had a few great ball denials that led to broken possessions for them.

Idk if we are good enough to beat them. I think we would fall short on coaching and poise. Very much like the Golden State finals, they would execute better in the clutch than us. They match us well in everything and are like the one team that has a duo head and shoulders above ours.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#243 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:11 am

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BK_2020 wrote:Why doesn't Joe shake things up with the offense? It's only the 2nd best in the league and also the history of the NBA. It's so obvious to us fans that serious, foundational changes with the offense needs to happen. We even lost our 10th game already.

This feels eerily similar to posts from this time last season


Drop 150 on the Pacers, 140 on the Spurs, 130 on the Pistons but 102 on the Bucks and 100 on the Nuggets. ‘HisToRiCaL OffEnSeeeee durrppp durpppppp’
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#244 » by BK_2020 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:18 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
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BK_2020 wrote:Why doesn't Joe shake things up with the offense? It's only the 2nd best in the league and also the history of the NBA. It's so obvious to us fans that serious, foundational changes with the offense needs to happen. We even lost our 10th game already.

This feels eerily similar to posts from this time last season


Drop 150 on the Pacers, 140 on the Spurs, 130 on the Pistons but 102 on the Bucks and 100 on the Nuggets. ‘HisToRiCaL OffEnSeeeee durrppp durpppppp’

Indeed, it is suffering to be a fan of the Celtics, aka the only team in the league that performs better against worse talent.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#245 » by Bar Fight » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:26 am

BK_2020 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:This feels eerily similar to posts from this time last season


Drop 150 on the Pacers, 140 on the Spurs, 130 on the Pistons but 102 on the Bucks and 100 on the Nuggets. ‘HisToRiCaL OffEnSeeeee durrppp durpppppp’

Indeed, it is suffering to be a fan of the Celtics, aka the only team in the league that performs better against worse talent.

I only care about how we compete against top talent. This is a title or bust season.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#246 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:42 am

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BK_2020 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Drop 150 on the Pacers, 140 on the Spurs, 130 on the Pistons but 102 on the Bucks and 100 on the Nuggets. ‘HisToRiCaL OffEnSeeeee durrppp durpppppp’

Indeed, it is suffering to be a fan of the Celtics, aka the only team in the league that performs better against worse talent.

I only care about how we compete against top talent. This is a title or bust season.

Too early for a title or bust season because the the top 3 players are 25, 26, and 28 years old.

I think title or bust applies to those star players who are in their 30s.

The Celtics have a 6-year window, according to the Celtic owner.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#247 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:46 am

We don't want the Cs to peak too early.

Last season we saw how the Bucks were unbeatable in January, going on a 16-game winning streak.

And when the playoffs came, Bucks couldn't even win 2 games in the 1st round.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#248 » by Hal14 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:48 am

Why are the post-game threads 13 pages long when we lose but only 3 pages when we win?
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#249 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:52 am

Hal14 wrote:Why are the post-game threads 13 pages long when we lose but only 3 pages when we win?

A case of doubting Celtic fans have more to say than those who believe in the Celtics.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#250 » by Bar Fight » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:09 am

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Bar Fight wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Indeed, it is suffering to be a fan of the Celtics, aka the only team in the league that performs better against worse talent.

I only care about how we compete against top talent. This is a title or bust season.

Too early for a title or bust season because the the top 3 players are 25, 26, and 28 years old.

I think title or bust applies to those star players who are in their 30s.

The Celtics have a 6-year window, according to the Celtic owner.

Title or bust
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#251 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:14 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Murray cooked anyone we put on him -- 2/2 vs. Pritchard, 3/3 vs. Holiday, 3/3 vs. Tatum, 4/5 vs. Brown...

0/1 vs. White but DWhite mostly covered MPJ.

Do you have possession stats and when those baskets occurred? I remember someone having a more complete breakdown on something like this before but i don’t remember who, could have been you.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#252 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:14 am

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Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I only care about how we compete against top talent. This is a title or bust season.

Too early for a title or bust season because the the top 3 players are 25, 26, and 28 years old.

I think title or bust applies to those star players who are in their 30s.

The Celtics have a 6-year window, according to the Celtic owner.

Title or bust

If they don't win it this year then what?

Blow it up?
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#253 » by Bar Fight » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:20 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Too early for a title or bust season because the the top 3 players are 25, 26, and 28 years old.

I think title or bust applies to those star players who are in their 30s.

The Celtics have a 6-year window, according to the Celtic owner.

Title or bust

If they don't win it this year then what?

Blow it up?
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#254 » by fallguy » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:34 am

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Fierce1 wrote:Only fair to give Joe 2 seasons, this season and next season.

If the Cs still have not hung Banner 18 by 2025, I also want Joe out.

Remember, this is not the same team from last season.

If this were the same team then the result would most likely be the same.

But this is an upgraded Celtics team.

April is 3 months away.


This is season #2 for Joe. There won't be a #3 without a Finals appearance. Wyc isn't nearly as infatuated with Joe as Brad is.


This is factually true.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#255 » by fallguy » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:35 am

Hal14 wrote:Why are the post-game threads 13 pages long when we lose but only 3 pages when we win?


How much is there to say about obliterating the Spurs?
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Post#256 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:35 am

But KP and Jrue were not part of Joe's 1st year.

I think Joe will be given 2 chances, 2024 and 2025.

If the Cs don't win it this year and next year, I think he's done.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#257 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:36 am

fallguy wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Why are the post-game threads 13 pages long when we lose but only 3 pages when we win?


How much is there to say about obliterating the Spurs?

Not just against the Spurs.

It's true that when the Cs win, the threads are shorter.

And when the Cs lose, the threads are longer.
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Post#258 » by fallguy » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:37 am

If the C's flame out this year the way they flamed out last year, Joe is gone. And so is Jaylen.

If they lose because of a KP injury or in game 7 of the Finals, he's probably back.
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#259 » by fallguy » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:44 am

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fallguy wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Why are the post-game threads 13 pages long when we lose but only 3 pages when we win?


How much is there to say about obliterating the Spurs?

Not just against the Spurs.

It's true that when the Cs win, the threads are shorter.

And when the Cs lose, the threads are longer.


Who cares?
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Re: Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19 

Post#260 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:44 am

fallguy wrote:If the C's flame out this year the way they flamed out last year, Joe is gone. And so is Jaylen.

If they lose because of a KP injury or in game 7 of the Finals, he's probably back.

That's fair.

I still believe the Cs should have fired Joe immediately after that Miami series.

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