Al Horford Thread

thomas1897 · Post #41 » by **thomas1897** » Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:52 pm

The answer for Brad Stevens is Thomas Bryant of the Wizards a stretch 5 or 4 should be a good pickup if healthy.

thomas1897 · Post #42 » by **thomas1897** » Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:03 pm

Al Horford is the oldest team member and there should be a replacement and backup. One of the best players is Thomas Bryant of the Wizards. A stretch 4 or 5 and can match up with Daniel Theis or Robert Williams. A very good player when healthy if and when he recovers from leg injuries would help the Celtics with a very good rotational player. In the off-season Brad Stevens should add some very good pieces to build a championship team.

Post #43 » by **djFan71** » Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:11 pm

thomas1897 wrote:Al Horford is the oldest team member and there should be a replacement and backup. One of the best players is Thomas Bryant of the Wizards. A stretch 4 or 5 and can match up with Daniel Theis or Robert Williams. A very good player when healthy if and when he recovers from leg injuries would help the Celtics with a very good rotational player. In the off-season Brad Stevens should add some very good pieces to build a championship team.

I merged this in to the existing Horf replacement thread.

playa-hater · Post #44 » by **playa-hater** » Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:38 pm

Knocking on wood here, but Horford has been looking younger and more productive as of late that I am thinking maybe keep him as is next year. We can replace everythinh about Horford individually. But finding 1 player who doee all things together will be very hard IMO.

How he holds up defensively and shooting this playoffs matter. Right now it seems like he can. Theis has helped in that regard.

Celts17Pride · Post #45 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:12 am

Celtics need to find a way to keep Al Horford if no “big” deal presents itself. Horford is a beast on defense and the numbers support that claim. Celtics won’t be the same without Big Al. Defense will take a hit

TheMartian · Post #46 » by **TheMartian** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:29 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics need to find a way to keep Al Horford if no “big” deal presents itself. Horford is a beast on defense and the numbers support that claim. Celtics won’t be the same without Big Al. Defense will take a hit

Agreed. Part of why the C's are playing this well is because of Big Al. Hope POBO finds a way to keep him.

ryan in Maine · Post #47 » by **ryan in Maine** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:18 am

Yeah still Horford.

celtxman · Post #48 » by **celtxman** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:51 pm

He is good enough to keep because it's unlikely you can find anything better with his buyout savings even if you could work it with the cap

zoyathedestroya · Post #49 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:59 am

If we can't retain Horford or find a Horford lite, it would be cool to find ourselves a player in the mold of a Siakam, Herb Jones, Scottie Barnes, or Kuminga.

Larry_Russell · Post #50 » by **Larry_Russell** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:06 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:If we can't retain Horford or find a Horford lite, it would be cool to find ourselves a player in the mold of a Siakam, Herb Jones, Scottie Barnes, or Kuminga.

IMO,

Beal comes here then try to trade Brown for Siakam or OG

jfs1000d · Post #51 » by **jfs1000d** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:23 pm

Horford under contract for next year. So it is Horford for me.

Scoonie · Post #52 » by **Scoonie** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:27 pm

I think we likely need to keep Horford for next year. He will cost us a lot, but better than anybody else we can likely get.

Post #53 » by **snowman** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:01 pm

Keep Horford unless a "godfather" deal becomes available, meaning one you just can't say no to. Something like Durant for Horford straight up, lol. Other than that, keep him, then resign him after next season on 1-year midlevel money contracts until he wants to retire and become our big man coach. Having Theis and Grant on board really helps with Horford's minutes. Horford and Rob starting with Grant and Theis off the bench is a great rotation. Keeping Horford around 20-24 min unless really needed is key. We do need to upgrade our 5th big next season though, just in case.

Fencer reregistered · Post #54 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:10 pm

snowman wrote:Keep Horford unless a "godfather" deal becomes available, meaning one you just can't say no to. Something like Durant for Horford straight up, lol. Other than that, keep him, then resign him after next season on 1-year midlevel money contracts until he wants to retire and become our big man coach. Having Theis and Grant on board really helps with Horford's minutes. Horford and Rob starting with Grant and Theis off the bench is a great rotation. Keeping Horford around 20-24 min unless really needed is key. We do need to upgrade our 5th big next season though, just in case.

Right now he's a decent starter with a soft minutes limitation. If he stays close to that he'll be worth more than taxpayer MLE money.

Fortunately, we have his Bird Rights.

Patsfan1081 · Post #55 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:46 pm

darrendaye wrote:Sign Jalen Smith, hoping he's Christian Wood 2.0?

I like Smith but with the way he’s played for Indy I’d have to think he’s priced out of the mid level. Would like to see a young big man with up side though. Maybe Hartenstein, somone said Bryant, who could be available at the mid level because of his injury history. Sengun would have been perfect….

Maybe a lottery team would still see value in Nesmith and would be willing to swap seconds to take a flyer on him?

Curmudgeon · Post #56 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:02 pm

Luis Scola is available, and he's only 44.

robbie84 · Post #57 » by **robbie84** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:33 pm

We also have to be careful with Al's 'cliff' moment looming in the near future.
Look at Millsap. Dude is absolutely useless now.

sam_I_am · Post #58 » by **sam_I_am** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:51 am

I think Al might earn 100% of his money nixing the ideas of a buy out.

Fencer reregistered · Post #59 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:13 pm

sam_I_am wrote:I think Al might earn a guarantee of 100% of his money, nixing the ideas of a buy out.

I presume you meant that as I edited it above?

Jammer · Post #60 » by **Jammer** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:37 pm

What Fencer and Sam_I_am are referring to is the blue part from the previous page:

Jammer wrote:2022-2023 Salary ...
$14.5 Million Guaranteed
$19.5 Million Guaranteed if Celtics reach Finals
26.5 Million Guaranteed if Celtics win NBA Championship

Some Al Horford Career Highlights:
2008 All-Rookie 1rst Team (the last season that the Celtics hoisted a Banner)
2011 1rst Team All-NBA (voted one of the 5 Best Players in the League by Peers/Press)
2018 1rst Team All Defense

Celtics rarely seem to play as well as when Al is on the court.