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31to6 wrote:

The Corey's wrote:

31to6 wrote:
I love how he's played with the Celtics. I don't have stats handy, but feel like his defense has been as advertised -- not as 'showy' as Marcus, but also (unlike Marcus) consistently excellent. Offensively he's sacrificed the most to let the team hum along. He'll remind us he can score here and there, helping keep the defense honest, and his 3pt % is 3rd in the league and otherworldly from the corners -- but offensively what I love most is when he decides he's going to post someone up and score on them. Loved it when Marcus did that, love it when Jrue does that and I think (again, no stats) he scores at a really efficient rate down there. Plus he'll hang in the dunker spot and make plays for other guys just because he does what he wants.

So I wasn't expecting him to come in and put up 20ppg -- he could on most teams, but for this one to be excellent someone needs to be down around 13, and he is, on great efficiency, and could (my opinion) turn it up if needed. Having him as a 'fifth best' starter is preposterous -- and probably incorrect -- but I love it and I home they back up the Brinks truck for him. $120/4 might not be possible; maybe $120/3? After that, Yam Madar will be ready to take over

He's not a 37 million a year player. Certainly not at ages 35,36 and 37.

With the cap increasing, we have to reset our standards for what a $20M, $30M, etc player is perhaps annually.

More important, it’ll hopefully be a question of whether or not to pay/maybe overpay to bring a title-winning team back to try to defend their crown. I hope Wyc and co will pony up to do so. With the Jays over $60 each this team will be over the cap for the foreseeable future. Contenders have to splurge to keep it together — or not and wither. I think Jrue’s game will age well — IMO it already is.

The Corey's wrote:

31to6 wrote:

The Corey's wrote:
He's not a 37 million a year player. Certainly not at ages 35,36 and 37.

With the cap increasing, we have to reset our standards for what a $20M, $30M, etc player is perhaps annually.

More important, it’ll hopefully be a question of whether or not to pay/maybe overpay to bring a title-winning team back to try to defend their crown. I hope Wyc and co will pony up to do so. With the Jays over $60 each this team will be over the cap for the foreseeable future. Contenders have to splurge to keep it together — or not and wither. I think Jrue’s game will age well — IMO it already is.

He's making 37 mil before the reset. You wanna throw him more?

Parliament10 wrote:

The Corey's wrote:

31to6 wrote:
With the cap increasing, we have to reset our standards for what a $20M, $30M, etc player is perhaps annually.

More important, it’ll hopefully be a question of whether or not to pay/maybe overpay to bring a title-winning team back to try to defend their crown. I hope Wyc and co will pony up to do so. With the Jays over $60 each this team will be over the cap for the foreseeable future. Contenders have to splurge to keep it together — or not and wither. I think Jrue’s game will age well — IMO it already is.

He's making 37 mil before the reset. You wanna throw him more?

I think that, if Jrue Opts-in, then he gets Traded. -- I can see him going for a 3-yr contract, with a 4th-yr Option.
Whether it's a Team Option, or a Player Option, is the Question.

Also, What do y'all think that he would be looking for, in an Extension? -- I mean, he'll be 34 by the end of the Playoffs.
I think that he has to have a Descending Contract? = $30 - $28 - $26 - $24???

Edit:
Maybe even something more Team friendly?

Pay = $30M - $27M - $24M - $21M
Age = 34yrs - 35yrs - 36yrs - 37yrs

Parliament10 wrote:Maybe even something more Team friendly?

Pay = $30M - $27M - $24M - $21M
Age = 34yrs - 35yrs - 36yrs - 37yrs

Celts17Pride wrote:

Parliament10 wrote:Maybe even something more Team friendly?

Pay = $30M - $27M - $24M - $21M
Age = 34yrs - 35yrs - 36yrs - 37yrs

It all comes down to how much Jrue Holiday really wants to stay in Boston. Hoilday has an option for $39 million next year. Your scenario basically has Holiday accepting his option and extending at 3 years $63 million ($21 million per year, $102 million total). I'm be surprised if that happens. I'm guessing it would be more.

If Holiday declined his option and wanted a 4 year deal, how much would teams pay? I think at least $120 million.

Going to be interesting to see what gets done. Celtics still have to pay D White.

fallguy wrote:

Celts17Pride wrote:

Parliament10 wrote:Maybe even something more Team friendly?

Pay = $30M - $27M - $24M - $21M
Age = 34yrs - 35yrs - 36yrs - 37yrs

It all comes down to how much Jrue Holiday really wants to stay in Boston. Hoilday has an option for $39 million next year. Your scenario basically has Holiday accepting his option and extending at 3 years $63 million ($21 million per year, $102 million total). I'm be surprised if that happens. I'm guessing it would be more.

If Holiday declined his option and wanted a 4 year deal, how much would teams pay? I think at least $120 million.

Going to be interesting to see what gets done. Celtics still have to pay D White.

I still think Jaylen will ultimately be the one to go.

Celts17Pride wrote:

fallguy wrote:

Celts17Pride wrote:It all comes down to how much Jrue Holiday really wants to stay in Boston. Hoilday has an option for $39 million next year. Your scenario basically has Holiday accepting his option and extending at 3 years $63 million ($21 million per year, $102 million total). I'm be surprised if that happens. I'm guessing it would be more.

If Holiday declined his option and wanted a 4 year deal, how much would teams pay? I think at least $120 million.

Going to be interesting to see what gets done. Celtics still have to pay D White.

I still think Jaylen will ultimately be the one to go.

Getting rid of Jaylen Brown to keep Holiday makes zero sense.

FlatearthZorro wrote:

Celts17Pride wrote:

fallguy wrote:
I still think Jaylen will ultimately be the one to go.

Getting rid of Jaylen Brown to keep Holiday makes zero sense.

I believe he's saying that Jaylen just makes too much cash and you could potentially replace him while getting assets and a younger guy on a better contract. Obvious that Jaylen is much better than Jrue.

fallguy wrote:

FlatearthZorro wrote:

Celts17Pride wrote:Getting rid of Jaylen Brown to keep Holiday makes zero sense.

I believe he's saying that Jaylen just makes too much cash and you could potentially replace him while getting assets and a younger guy on a better contract. Obvious that Jaylen is much better than Jrue.

Can't pay everyone on this roster. Jaylen would bring in a massive haul and enable us to keep KP-DW-JT and Jrue.

chrisab123 wrote:Extension yet?

GoCeltics123 wrote:

fallguy wrote:

FlatearthZorro wrote:
I believe he's saying that Jaylen just makes too much cash and you could potentially replace him while getting assets and a younger guy on a better contract. Obvious that Jaylen is much better than Jrue.

Can't pay everyone on this roster. Jaylen would bring in a massive haul and enable us to keep KP-DW-JT and Jrue.

If they don't win the title this year, it'll probably be Jaylen that goes. Unless Jrue takes a substantial pay cut (which I wouldn't rule out), it'd be tough to bring everyone back next year.

If they win the title, pay whatever the **** it takes to keep the team