Al Horford Thread

ConstableGeneva · Post #401 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:07 pm

Among active players, Horford has the 9th most playoff wins since coming to the league. Only Harden and Lebron have more postseason wins and didn't play for the Spurs or Warriors. Only 3 franchises have more playoff wins than him during that span -- BOS, GSW, and MIA.

ConstableGeneva · Post #402 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:47 pm

There are only 13 NBA players all-time who tallied 13K points, 8.5K rebounds, and 3.5K assists in their career. 12 are retired Hall-of-Famers. The 13th is Lebron James.

Al Horford only needs to play 60 games and average what he averaged last season (10/6/3) to join that elite club.

ConstableGeneva · Post #403 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:02 pm

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ConstableGeneva · Post #404 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 3:37 pm

How many minutes should Al Horford play next season?

Age-37 season for some retired bigs:

• Cliff Robinson: 34.7 mpg
• Dirk Nowitzki: 31.5 mpg
• Tim Duncan: 29.2 mpg
• Shaquille O'Neal: 23.4 mpg
• Marcus Camby: 22.9 mpg
• Kevin Willis: 21.3 mpg
• Kevin Garnett: 20.5 mpg
• Tyson Chandler: 8.4 mpg

zoyathedestroya · Post #405 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:57 pm

Made Three-Pointers and 3FG%...

Before Turning 30: 109 makes (34.0%)
After Turning 30: 645 makes (38.0%)

Most of his 30s were spent in a Celtics uniform (five seasons and counting). 490 makes as a Celtics player at 38.9% clip.

TatumMVP · Post #406 » by **TatumMVP** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:59 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:How many minutes should Al Horford play next season?

Age-37 season for some retired bigs:

• Cliff Robinson: 34.7 mpg
• Dirk Nowitzki: 31.5 mpg
• Tim Duncan: 29.2 mpg
• Shaquille O'Neal: 23.4 mpg
• Marcus Camby: 22.9 mpg
• Kevin Willis: 21.3 mpg
• Kevin Garnett: 20.5 mpg
• Tyson Chandler: 8.4 mpg

22mpg and rest Btb.

zoyathedestroya · Post #407 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:25 pm

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zoyathedestroya · Post #408 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:56 pm

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threrf23 · Post #409 » by **threrf23** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:41 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:How many minutes should Al Horford play next season?

Age-37 season for some retired bigs:

• Cliff Robinson: 34.7 mpg
• Dirk Nowitzki: 31.5 mpg
• Tim Duncan: 29.2 mpg
• Shaquille O'Neal: 23.4 mpg
• Marcus Camby: 22.9 mpg
• Kevin Willis: 21.3 mpg
• Kevin Garnett: 20.5 mpg
• Tyson Chandler: 8.4 mpg

When he has legs, he can still affect the game like a top ~20 player IMO

I would rather have a top ~20 player for short minutes than a mediocre player for 30 minutes. Not sure it would work like that, but, maybe...

Post #410 » by **Parliament10** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:52 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:How many minutes should Al Horford play next season?

Age-37 season for some retired bigs:

• Cliff Robinson: 34.7 mpg
• Dirk Nowitzki: 31.5 mpg
• Tim Duncan: 29.2 mpg
• Shaquille O'Neal: 23.4 mpg
• Marcus Camby: 22.9 mpg
• Kevin Willis: 21.3 mpg
• Kevin Garnett: 20.5 mpg
• Tyson Chandler: 8.4 mpg

24 mins or less. Whether he Starts, or comes off the Bench.

playa-hater · Post #411 » by **playa-hater** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:35 am

Parliament10 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:How many minutes should Al Horford play next season?

Age-37 season for some retired bigs:

• Cliff Robinson: 34.7 mpg
• Dirk Nowitzki: 31.5 mpg
• Tim Duncan: 29.2 mpg
• Shaquille O'Neal: 23.4 mpg
• Marcus Camby: 22.9 mpg
• Kevin Willis: 21.3 mpg
• Kevin Garnett: 20.5 mpg
• Tyson Chandler: 8.4 mpg

24 mins or less. Whether he Starts, or comes off the Bench.

Don't think any of the above players sat out B2B FWIW.

24 is about right for me..

steefP2 · Post #412 » by **steefP2** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:19 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:How many minutes should Al Horford play next season?

Age-37 season for some retired bigs:

• Cliff Robinson: 34.7 mpg
• Dirk Nowitzki: 31.5 mpg
• Tim Duncan: 29.2 mpg
• Shaquille O'Neal: 23.4 mpg
• Marcus Camby: 22.9 mpg
• Kevin Willis: 21.3 mpg
• Kevin Garnett: 20.5 mpg
• Tyson Chandler: 8.4 mpg

1500-1700 total minutes; or 24mpg for 65 games or 27 mpg for 60 games.

Deivork · Post #413 » by **Deivork** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:19 am

Go Al

Hal14 · Post #414 » by **Hal14** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:49 pm

Atta boy, Al.

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Post #415 » by **shackles10** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:48 pm

But what does “when necessary” mean? Usually it’s a phrase for exceptions, but Bobby is tweeting like this will be the norm. If that’s the case then it’s “necessary” because it gives us the best chance to win, I’d rather PP be our first guard than Kornet be our first big, and White and Holiday are too good to ride the bench.

Smart2Nesmith43 · Post #416 » by **Smart2Nesmith43** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:51 pm

shackles10 wrote:But what does “when necessary” mean? Usually it’s a phrase for exceptions, but Bobby is tweeting like this will be the norm. If that’s the case then it’s “necessary” because it gives us the best chance to win, I’d rather PP be our first guard than Kornet be our first big, and White and Holiday are too good to ride the bench.

Sounds like Al is fine with being on the bench when all our top 6 guys are available but he expects to start if one of them is missing. So more of a sixth starter situation than trying to make him a permanent 6th man like Brogdon last year (who would stay in a bench role even when multiple starters were out).

Post #417 » by **shackles10** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:55 pm

Just thought the wording was weird is all. I never really expected Al to be anything but a professionAL

zoyathedestroya · Post #418 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:50 pm

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ConstableGeneva · Post #419 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Nov 4, 2023 12:54 am

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zoyathedestroya · Post #420 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sun Nov 5, 2023 3:31 am

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It would be a shame if he retires without a ring. Maybe last two chances this year and next.