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Post#41 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Sep 1, 2023 3:51 am

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Post#42 » by GoGreen » Fri Sep 1, 2023 5:21 am

Just watching his hornets highlights and I'm really liking what I see. Makes me wonder if he's going to eat into Sam's minutes? Very similar players.
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Post#43 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Sep 1, 2023 6:52 am

Svi is only six months older than Sam but was drafted three years earlier. Hauser has played in 19 more playoff games though.
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Post#44 » by 165bows » Fri Sep 1, 2023 10:32 am

Apparently his floater/runner game is awful - anyone confirm this?
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Post#45 » by Hal14 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 12:55 pm

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The posts by Nekias and that Nik guy that highlight Svi's playmaking and on-ball creation is exhibit A for anyone who says he is redundant with Hauser.

They're different players - with some overlap.
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Post#46 » by Hal14 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 1:07 pm

GoGreen wrote:Just watching his hornets highlights and I'm really liking what I see. Makes me wonder if he's going to eat into Sam's minutes? Very similar players.

Could Svi eat into Hauser's mins? Perhaps a little bit.

Is it a good thing to have some internal competition for playing time? Absolutely.

With that being said, I mentioned quite a few differences between them earlier in the thread so I'll just post here as a spoiler:

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-Hauser is a better, more consistent shooter

-Hauser is more of a 3/4 combo (more of a 3 but can play either forward spot), whereas Svi is more of a 2/3 combo (is pretty much equally effective at the 2 or the 3..and has even shown flashes of playing the 1, both on the Hornets and the Ukraine national team)

-Hauser is bigger. Hauser at the combine measured 6'8" with a 6'9" wingspan. Svi at the combine measured 6'7" with a 6'5" wingspan.

-Svi is a little bit more athletic. I mean, we pretty much threw a party when Hauser dunked it in a game. I don't even know if he dunked it at all in 4 seasons playing college ball. Svi dunks with ease, even sometimes as a lob finisher. Don't get me wrong, Svi is by no means a freak athlete, but he's a little more athletic than Hauser for sure

-Hauser is a little better defensively. And that might be just because he's got 2 years under his belt in Boston, surround by some really good defenders where we coach defense well. Perhaps Svi just hasn't had that same kind of advantage and perhaps as this season goes on, we'll see Svi improve. But Hauser was out there putting the clamps on Trae Young in the playoffs a few months ago, while Josh Giddey was able to burn Svi off the dribble and score rather easily (and Trae is much harder to defend 1 on 1 than Giddey)

-While Hauser is the better shooter, Svi is MUCH more skilled and dynamic at everything else offensively besides shooting. Mainly, I'm talking about ball handling, getting to his spots with the ball, creating off the bounce, driving and getting to the rim, passing/playmaking, being able to drive and kick it out to a shooter, etc. All that stuff Svi is much better than Hauser. I mean, we saw last season Hauser literally could not dribble the ball up the floor with someone defending him without turning it over. Svi meanwhile, can do that like it's nothing.

-Hauser I think is a little bit better cutter

There might be some other small differences but these are the main ones.
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Post#47 » by MeanGeraldGreen » Fri Sep 1, 2023 1:42 pm

Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.
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Post#48 » by 165bows » Fri Sep 1, 2023 1:47 pm

MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

Hmm interesting and I kind of agree.

Hauser is the pure spot up shooting wing and imo prob plays the most of all of them.

PP is the backup guard and ball handler, version small, that is better for guarding smaller quicker back court guys.

Svi is the jack knife, can play either guard or wing spot, can shoot a little and also ball handle, but obv not guarding the quicker PGs.

That's my take on it. They can pretty much all play together for me in the deeper bench situations. Zero wrong with a PP/Svi/Hauser back court, fit-wise, if they are rolling deep into the bench.
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Post#49 » by Hal14 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 1:49 pm

MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

I'd probably agree with that.

Banton is competition for Pritchard as well, to some extent.

Hauser is probably in competition more with Walsh and Brissett - and a little bit with Svi.

I think it'll be fun having all of them battle it out in practice :)
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Post#50 » by Hal14 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 1:54 pm

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MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

Hmm interesting and I kind of agree.

Hauser is the pure spot up shooting wing and imo prob plays the most of all of them.

PP is the backup guard and ball handler, version small, that is better for guarding smaller quicker back court guys.

Svi is the jack knife, can play either guard or wing spot, can shoot a little and also ball handle, but obv not guarding the quicker PGs.

That's my take on it. They can pretty much all play together for me in the deeper bench situations. Zero wrong with a PP/Svi/Hauser back court, fit-wise, if they are rolling deep into the bench.

Agreed with most of that. But especially if you add in Brogdon and even Kornet. Like, we will have to be careful how many of these guys (Brogdon, Kornet, Svi, Pritchard, Hauser) are on the floor at the same time - all guys with defensive limitations.

If Hauser continues the defensive improvement he made last season, he could certainly have that 8th rotation spot on lock down.

If not, I think the door could open up for Walsh to emerge as a defensive specialist (who also helps a little bit on offense) and he could end up getting some good minutes.

But I think overall, if we just limit how many of the bench guys with defensive limitations are out there at the same time, we'll be ok.

And Kornet won't play that much, too. Probably only when 2 or more of the other bigs are out..
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Post#51 » by 31to6 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 2:33 pm

Hal14 wrote:
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

I'd probably agree with that.

Banton is competition for Pritchard as well, to some extent.

Hauser is probably in competition more with Walsh and Brissett - and a little bit with Svi.

I think it'll be fun having all of them battle it out in practice :)


If Svi's deal is guaranteed I think he makes it an open question whether Banton (and his unguaranteed contract) makes it out of training camp. The team could release him and sign Blake as the 14th guy.

Svi's ball handling and play making are key -- in addition to his shooting. If given the opportunity, are we sure this guy couldn't be as much of a contributor for the 2023-24 Celtics as Grant $18M/per Williams was for the 2022-23 team?

I think Hauser is taking most of Grant's minutes. Svi could mop up a few that Smart had that White and Brogdon don't absorb.
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Post#52 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Sep 1, 2023 2:36 pm

MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

Honestly, Banton, Pritchard, Hauser, Walsh, Mykhailiuk, Kornet and Brissett are all in competition with each other for playing time. Nothing is guaranteed for any of them.
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Post#53 » by MeanGeraldGreen » Fri Sep 1, 2023 2:44 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

Honestly, Banton, Pritchard, Hauser, Walsh, Mykhailiuk, Kornet and Brissett are all in competition with each other for playing time. Nothing is guaranteed for any of them.


I think Hauser and Brissett are relatively safe bets. The rest? Let them fight to the death, which I’d bet on Walsh.
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Post#54 » by 31to6 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 2:48 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

Honestly, Banton, Pritchard, Hauser, Walsh, Mykhailiuk, Kornet and Brissett are all in competition with each other for playing time. Nothing is guaranteed for any of them.


I think Hauser and Brissett are relatively safe bets. The rest? Let them fight to the death, which I’d bet on Walsh.


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Post#55 » by MeanGeraldGreen » Fri Sep 1, 2023 2:53 pm

31to6 wrote:
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Honestly, Banton, Pritchard, Hauser, Walsh, Mykhailiuk, Kornet and Brissett are all in competition with each other for playing time. Nothing is guaranteed for any of them.


I think Hauser and Brissett are relatively safe bets. The rest? Let them fight to the death, which I’d bet on Walsh.


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Jaylen, duh.

Probably Walsh IMO.
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Post#56 » by 31to6 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 2:58 pm

GRAAHAHAH

I believe in Walsh being a real player fairly soon, but not sure Joe's going there much this season. He onnly 19!
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Post#57 » by Hal14 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 5:44 pm

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Hal14 wrote:
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

I'd probably agree with that.

Banton is competition for Pritchard as well, to some extent.

Hauser is probably in competition more with Walsh and Brissett - and a little bit with Svi.

I think it'll be fun having all of them battle it out in practice :)


If Svi's deal is guaranteed I think he makes it an open question whether Banton (and his unguaranteed contract) makes it out of training camp. The team could release him and sign Blake as the 14th guy.

Or keep Banton and sign Blake as the 15th man.

We're going all in this season. I doubt we only go with a 14 man roster when the rules allow us to carry 15.

Banton brings something unique. There's pretty much no one else in the league who's a 6'9" PG. His ability to handle the ball, run PnR, initiate actions, get down hill at 6'9" is intriguing and unique. And, he's a good defender. Perhaps a better defender than Hauser, Brogdon, Pritchard, Svi, Kornet or Brissett.

And his shooting is better than people think. And he's still only 23.

I'd like to see us keep him and try to develop him.
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Post#58 » by Hal14 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 5:46 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

Honestly, Banton, Pritchard, Hauser, Walsh, Mykhailiuk, Kornet and Brissett are all in competition with each other for playing time. Nothing is guaranteed for any of them.

Agreed. And I like that a lot. Good, healthy competition will bring out the best in everybody. Or, if it brings out the worst in 1 of them, then they move to the end of the bench. But iron sharpens iron.

I think it'll be fun having those guys all go at each other in practice and compete for mins. It'll make them all better, they'll push each other and they'll push the starters in practice too.
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Post#59 » by Dogen » Fri Sep 1, 2023 9:37 pm

Hal14 wrote:
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Svi is competition for Pritchard, much moreso than for Hauser.

I'd probably agree with that.

Banton is competition for Pritchard as well, to some extent.

Hauser is probably in competition more with Walsh and Brissett - and a little bit with Svi.

I think it'll be fun having all of them battle it out in practice :)


Pritchard can't catch a break. Just when it looks like there are some minutes opening up, in comes more competition at the spot.

Well, he should be fine with that. Svi, Payton, and Banton have very different skills. He could still carve out a role if he can keep improving on the defensive end. I expect that Svi is here for the year, whereas Pritchard and Banton should make their case before the trade deadline.
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