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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1501 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Apr 8, 2024 10:36 pm

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It’s very simple. The Celtics are one of the best regular-season teams in NBA history. Their winning percentage ranks just 20th all-time, but their point differential (plus-11.6 per game) ranks fifth. Only four of their 16 losses have not been within five points in the last five minutes, with the last of those not-close defeats having come more than two months ago (Feb. 1). They were without a starter in two of the four and playing the fifth game in seven days for another.

The Celtics rank in the top two on both ends of the floor and they’ve been 5.2 points per 100 possessions better than the next best team, which would easily be the biggest such differential in the 28 seasons for which we have play-by-play data.


From this week's NBA.com's Power Rankings: https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2023-24-week-25
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Post#1502 » by Ben-N1ce » Mon Apr 8, 2024 11:14 pm

Riverwalk2021 wrote:Great accolades for this regular season but if they don't win it all, the season is a failure despite what that clown Giannis thinks :lol:

Honestly, the Celtics shouldn't drop more than 3 games before the Finals. They are so far ahead of the pack in the East, it's comical.


Only team that concerns me is Denver. If they don't get there it's nothing short of an epic failure. Some people can try to green team it in some twisted way but the East isn't even strong. It's a total failure and they will never be taken seriously until they get to a finals / win it and that's what the criticism they will deserve.
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Post#1503 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Apr 9, 2024 1:01 am

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Post#1504 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Apr 9, 2024 8:47 am

Horford-Timelord lineups, 2021-22, 1526 possessions: 114.6 ORtg (68th percentile), 100.6 DRtg (99th percentile), +14.0 NetRtg (98th percentile)

Horford-Porzingis lineups, 2023-24, 1201 possessions: 123.1 ORtg (95th percentile), 108.7 DRtg (94th percentile), +14.5 NetRtg (98th percentile)

Timelord wasn't fully healthy for the 2022 title run. Will TingusPingus be?
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Post#1505 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Tue Apr 9, 2024 8:53 am

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5th?

Bums.
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Post#1506 » by Fierce1 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 10:16 am

Not surprising because the Cs switch everything.

That's the trade-off of the switch everything defense, you're prone to blown coverage and that results to an open shot for the opposing team.
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Post#1507 » by Hal14 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 6:25 pm

With the Queta signing, here's our depth chart for the playoffs:

C KP
F JT
F JB
G White
G Jrue

6th man: Al
7th/8th man: Hauser/Pritchard

That's your 8 core guys who will play every game

9th man, who will probably play most playoff games - especially vs bigger teams: Tillman/Kornet (depending on matchups and who is playing better..if we need more size/rim protection, Kornet. If we need more switchability, Tillman)

11th/12th man, will probably be glued to the bench during playoffs..BUT could maybe play a little bit if we need an energy boost, a change of pace, someone to go in for a couple mins (or even just 8 seconds at the end of a quarter), fly around, play some D, hustle, grab an offensive board.. Brissett/Springer (depending on whether you need a guard or a forward in there..and depending on who's playing better..)

13th/14th man...emergency depth wing (Svi) and emergency depth big (Queta) will likely be glued to bench all playoffs but they're insurance in case of emergency and in case they're needed for some spot minutes

15th man, will be glued to bench..will only play some in garbage time: Walsh ..don't worry, Jordan, you'll get your chance next season :)
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Post#1508 » by fallguy » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:14 am

Jordan Walsh better get a start this weekend.
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Post#1509 » by tfribs45 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:01 pm

Nate Dawg may be on to something here...... hope the C's prove him wrong! I too doubt the toughness of this three point heavy, finesse group. We could use a little KG or MAhcuss Smahht on this unit!! Time will tell....

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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1510 » by KillahGhostface » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:05 pm

tfribs45 wrote:Nate Dawg may be on to something here...... hope the C's prove him wrong! I too doubt the toughness of this three point heavy, finesse group. We could use a little KG or MAhcuss Smahht on this unit!! Time will tell....

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Post#1511 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:05 pm

I don't take what Nate is saying seriously.

The Cs had dawgs in 2010, but the Cs were the ones who folded in the clutch in that Game 7 finals.
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Post#1512 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:09 pm

Cs had Smart in 2022 and they couldn't win the chip.

KG got 3 rebounds in that Game 7 2010 finals while the according to Celtic fans soft Gasol got 18 rebounds.
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Post#1513 » by tfribs45 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:20 pm

Fierce1 wrote:I don't take what Nate is saying seriously.

The Cs had dawgs in 2010, but the Cs were the ones who folded in the clutch in that Game 7 finals.


we lost to La La in 2010 because of Perks injury and Gasol/Bynum killed us on the boards in the fourth. Lack of depth at the 5 killed us. Game was ours, but we gave up 23 offensive rebounds......
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Post#1514 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:22 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I don't take what Nate is saying seriously.

The Cs had dawgs in 2010, but the Cs were the ones who folded in the clutch in that Game 7 finals.


we lost to La La in 2010 because of Perks injury and Gasol/Bynum killed us on the boards in the fourth. Lack of depth at the 5 killed us. Game was ours, but we gave up 23 offensive rebounds......

Yeah, but it was disappointing that KG got outplayed by Gasol when KG was bullying Gasol in 2008.
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Post#1515 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:25 pm

I don't know what Nate is thinking because if you don't think Jrue is a dawg, you're not paying attention.
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Post#1516 » by 165bows » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:49 pm

Fierce1 wrote:I don't know what Nate is thinking because if you don't think Jrue is a dawg, you're not paying attention.

On a heat podcast lol.
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Post#1517 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:51 pm

165bows wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I don't know what Nate is thinking because if you don't think Jrue is a dawg, you're not paying attention.

On a heat podcast lol.

Denver didn't really have a dawg last season and they beat Miami 4-1 even when Miami had a couple of dawgs.
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Post#1518 » by Bar Fight » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:06 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I don't take what Nate is saying seriously.

The Cs had dawgs in 2010, but the Cs were the ones who folded in the clutch in that Game 7 finals.


we lost to La La in 2010 because of Perks injury and Gasol/Bynum killed us on the boards in the fourth. Lack of depth at the 5 killed us. Game was ours, but we gave up 23 offensive rebounds......

Yeah, but it was disappointing that KG got outplayed by Gasol when KG was bullying Gasol in 2008.

It's almost like there was a major knee injury in between the 2008 Finals and 2010.
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Post#1519 » by tfribs45 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:11 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
165bows wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I don't know what Nate is thinking because if you don't think Jrue is a dawg, you're not paying attention.

On a heat podcast lol.

Denver didn't really have a dawg last season and they beat Miami 4-1 even when Miami had a couple of dawgs.


mental toughness is also a part of being a dawg. Denver handled the pressure well and came out of the West rolling! This C's group has been bullied and when teams get physical, they tend to get rattled... looking fwd to the "real" season in a few weeks!
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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1520 » by Hal14 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:15 pm

tfribs45 wrote:Nate Dawg may be on to something here...... hope the C's prove him wrong! I too doubt the toughness of this three point heavy, finesse group. We could use a little KG or MAhcuss Smahht on this unit!! Time will tell....

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C'mon now.

It's the Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem podcast. A guy who played his whole career for Miami, just had his number retired by Miami and the other guy played 3 seasons with the Heat (0 seasons with Boston) and won 2 championships with the Heat.

You think they're gonna bring someone on their podcast who's gonna say nice things about the Celtics? Haslem was the one who went viral on social media a few months ago, basically saying that he doesn't give a F about Bill Russell.

Nate Robinson is probably still salty about not getting much playing time in Boston and getting traded after only 2 seasons.
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