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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:33 am
by Fierce1
brackdan70 wrote:MSTRJMES wrote:The ball moves when JB does not play. How does his 60M next year affect White and Holiday?
49.3 million but who’s counting. Has no effect on Holiday or White contracts
True.
Cs can even pay Tillman the max and it will not have an effect on other players contracts.
It's just about how deep the pockets of the owners are.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:37 am
by Objectivity
Celticfan_N_FL wrote:Objectivity wrote:JBs forces a ton of dumb predicable shots while missing tons of easy layups for other teammates. He makes the game a lot harder than it should be. We have a roster of capable shooters.
His play style freezes his teammates out.
JBs basketball IQ is so low he gets graded on a curve and praised for “heart” and “physicality” when he’s just charging through defenders trying to prove a point and get numbers all game.
Will there ever be a day JB will get judged more on basketball skills? Based on skills he’s not in the same league as Drew or White.
I do agree with White’s father. Like Ive been saying all year, it’s cute and experimental in the regular season, but in the playoffs the point guards need to run the offense. It makes the game easier for the TEAM.
The JB dribble the ball out and force an off target pass at the end of the shot clock is NOT a good play.
Yes, he may get a few more assists by dribbling the air out the ball, or dominating more possessions, but it’s so selfish and immature.
You are the worse ball handler and decision maker. Just give the ball up.
Playing team basketball will make it easier for everyone else. No matter how many quality coaches he’s had, JB still does not GET IT.
Recently quoted saying he would be an MVP candidate if he was #1 on his own team.
Please! Get him off this team!
Your commitment to the schtick is admirable.
JB’s commitment to the schtick is scary.
I watch the games as if we are already in the playoffs. I ain’t falling for the JB okey doke, every year, that’s all.
Every blackhole forced shot that’s goes in. Or every extended JB point stretch is nerve wracking.
Championships can be lost in a few possessions. Denver will be encouraging JB to takeover IF both teams make it to the finals.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:38 am
by brackdan70
Fierce1 wrote:brackdan70 wrote:MSTRJMES wrote:The ball moves when JB does not play. How does his 60M next year affect White and Holiday?
49.3 million but who’s counting. Has no effect on Holiday or White contracts
True.
Cs can even pay Tillman the max and it will not have an effect on other players contracts.
It's just about how deep the pockets of the owners are.
Starting the Max Tillman trend.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:39 am
by Fierce1
brackdan70 wrote:Fierce1 wrote:brackdan70 wrote:49.3 million but who’s counting. Has no effect on Holiday or White contracts
True.
Cs can even pay Tillman the max and it will not have an effect on other players contracts.
It's just about how deep the pockets of the owners are.
Starting the Max Tillman trend.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:37 am
by Sweet Serenity
Objectivity & BK_2020 ..
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:58 am
by BK_2020
Sweet Serenity wrote:Objectivity & BK_2020 ..
It's not healthy to be obsessed with forum posters, my friend. Talk to a professional, talk to your friends and family, go take a walk. And all the best!
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:04 am
by ConstableGeneva
Pre-ASB JB: 22.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.2 spg on 49/34/72 splits.
USG%: 27.3% (2nd)
TS%: 57.4% (10th)
A/TO: 1.51 (9th)
NetRtg: 7.4 (10th)
*Parentheses in rank among 11 rotation players
Post-ASB JB: 29.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 3.5 apg, 1.2 spg on 54/41/66 splits.
USG%: 32.9% (1st)
TS%: 62.3% (6th)
A/TO: 2.44 (9th)
NetRtg: 22.8 (1st)
*Parentheses in rank among 12 rotation players
Consider this JB's All-NBA push. Volume and efficiency both up. Not only did he improve his 3-pt efficiency, his shots within 5 feet of the rim increased (in FGA/game and in FG%). Huge while KP rested for six games. Fix FTs and continue limiting turnovers (happening less and less as he gets his shots within flow of the offense).
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:36 am
by 165bows
ConstableGeneva wrote:Pre-ASB JB: 22.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.2 spg on 49/34/72 splits.
USG%: 27.3% (2nd)
TS%: 57.4% (10th)
A/TO: 1.51 (9th)
NetRtg: 7.4 (10th)
*Parentheses in rank among 11 rotation players
Post-ASB JB: 29.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 3.5 apg, 1.2 spg on 54/41/66 splits.
USG%: 32.9% (1st)
TS%: 62.3% (6th)
A/TO: 2.44 (9th)
NetRtg: 22.8 (1st)
*Parentheses in rank among 12 rotation players
Consider this JB's All-NBA push. Volume and efficiency both up. Not only did he improve his 3-pt efficiency, his shots within 5 feet of the rim increased (in FGA/game and in FG%). Huge while KP rested for six games. Fix FTs and continue limiting turnovers (happening less and less as he gets his shots within flow of the offense).
He just needed more shots to get in the flow!!
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:45 am
by ConstableGeneva
165bows wrote:ConstableGeneva wrote:Pre-ASB JB: 22.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.2 spg on 49/34/72 splits.
USG%: 27.3% (2nd)
TS%: 57.4% (10th)
A/TO: 1.51 (9th)
NetRtg: 7.4 (10th)
*Parentheses in rank among 11 rotation players
Post-ASB JB: 29.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 3.5 apg, 1.2 spg on 54/41/66 splits.
USG%: 32.9% (1st)
TS%: 62.3% (6th)
A/TO: 2.44 (9th)
NetRtg: 22.8 (1st)
*Parentheses in rank among 12 rotation players
Consider this JB's All-NBA push. Volume and efficiency both up. Not only did he improve his 3-pt efficiency, his shots within 5 feet of the rim increased (in FGA/game and in FG%). Huge while KP rested for six games. Fix FTs and continue limiting turnovers (happening less and less as he gets his shots within flow of the offense).
He just needed more shots to get in the flow!!
Gotta re-calibrate that on a full-strength team lol. KP needs his touches too and White to a lesser extent. Relying mainly on JT and JB for our offense hasn't gotten us a chip yet. Maximize all weapons.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:21 pm
by Sweet Serenity
BK_2020 wrote:Sweet Serenity wrote:Objectivity & BK_2020 ..
It's not healthy to be obsessed with forum posters, my friend. Talk to a professional, talk to your friends and family, go take a walk. And all the best!
That response was so boring you should’ve just left it to yourself mate
Let's all just relax and leave Lloyd and Harry out of it. They're good guys and have nothing to do with this - Shackles
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:48 pm
by KillahGhostface
Probably going to make all nba again.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:06 pm
by ConstableGeneva
KillahGhostface wrote:Probably going to make all nba again.
Despite the poor start to his season, it looks like it. Even with the removal of positions.
Probably would've still made it, but these guys being injured and/or not making the 65-game cutoff certainly helps his case -- Embiid, Morant, Porzingis, Murray, Mitchell, Towns, Randle, Trae, Booker (can still make it?). Haliburton crawling his way into the cutoff is both hilarious and depressing. He shouldn't be All-NBA 'cos second half of season also counts.
Jokic, SGA, Doncic, Giannis, Tatum, AD, KD, Brunson, Edwards, Kawhi should be locks.
Lebron, Fox, Curry, JB, Sabonis, Zion, PG, J. Allen, Markkanen all have a case.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:41 pm
by shackles10
JB's improvements second half of the season make me feel at least a little bit like he could still continue to improve next season on his flaws when before it looked like he was a finished product. The question then was how long could he maintain this plateau before he started to decline, but decision making, shot selection, individual defense, post ups/finishing all look to be at least with a slight uptick before that timer starts. He's really using his strength on offense which is where almost all of his highlights come from. Just gotta hope playoffs follow norms and he's allowed to continue it instead of getting a tighter whistle on offensive fouls. I fully expect a few games where he's limited due to foul trouble. Our depth should still allow us to more than compete those games though.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:41 pm
by ConstableGeneva
Post-ASB, he's fourth in scoring behind Doncic, Giannis, and SGA. 54/41/66 splits. 2:1 A/TO. 3rd in +/- per game behind Tatum and Jokic.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:31 am
by ryan in Maine
Gotta get that ft % up to 75.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:25 pm
by shackles10
ryan in Maine wrote:Gotta get that ft % up to 75.
Most definitely. If he was shooting 85%, but at his previous level of play it wouldn't be as beneficial to the team as his current play is even with the low ft%, but it's such an easy thing to fix he's just gotta get that up. He could shoot 90% from the field, but if he missed 2 clutch free throws in the playoffs he'll never hear the end of it.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:38 pm
by 31to6
shackles10 wrote:ryan in Maine wrote:Gotta get that ft % up to 75.
Most definitely. If he was shooting 85%, but at his previous level of play it wouldn't be as beneficial to the team as his current play is even with the low ft%, but it's such an easy thing to fix he's just gotta get that up. He could shoot 90% from the field, but if he missed 2 clutch free throws in the playoffs he'll never hear the end of it.
drives me wild when he clanks FTs off the front of the rim. How does a talented NBA wing do that so consistently? I can understand missing some FTs here and there, it happens. But consistently clanging it off the front of the rim -- year after year -- does not make sense to me.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:50 pm
by shackles10
31to6 wrote:shackles10 wrote:ryan in Maine wrote:Gotta get that ft % up to 75.
Most definitely. If he was shooting 85%, but at his previous level of play it wouldn't be as beneficial to the team as his current play is even with the low ft%, but it's such an easy thing to fix he's just gotta get that up. He could shoot 90% from the field, but if he missed 2 clutch free throws in the playoffs he'll never hear the end of it.
drives me wild when he clanks FTs off the front of the rim. How does a talented NBA wing do that so consistently? I can understand missing some FTs here and there, it happens. But consistently clanging it off the front of the rim -- year after year -- does not make sense to me.
His turnaround and fadeaway are such a flick of the wrist shot they must be even more muscle memory than most things are for him. Not sure if he'll do it, but at least shows there's evidence to think if he practiced free throws enough they could become a muscle memory thing for him as well as he gets the feel for it more consistently. Who knows though, maybe it'd mess up his regular shot lol.
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:36 pm
by ConstableGeneva
Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (PotW - Mar 4, 2024)
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:51 pm
by bisme37
