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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2024 3:57 pm
by Celts17Pride
zoyathedestroya wrote:Congrats, JB! 15th in franchise history.

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Actually pretty impressive the Celtics have two guys drafted back to back at #3 with 10,000+ points. When you have high draft picks, you can't miss. Danny Ainge and company didn't miss. Credit to the organization and both JT & JB.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:31 am
by KamikazeK
If we win it this year then I'm blocking everyone who keeps talking about trading this guy. :lol:

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:14 pm
by Curmudgeon
KamikazeK wrote:If we win it this year then I'm blocking everyone who keeps talking about trading this guy. :lol:


And if they don't? Or if they win after Brown is injured and misses the playoffs?

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:11 pm
by BK_2020
The regular season is thankfully over and now it is time for a Jaylen Brown wrap-up. After what seemed like a torrid second half, in the first season of what should be his prime years, Jaylen ends the season with these numbers (last year in parentheses):
Points per 75 = 25.5 (27.12)
TS+ = 100 (100)
3PAr+ = 83 (91)
3P+ = 97 (91)
FTAr+ = 98 (93)
FT+ = 90 (93)

His scoring load is less, team around him is better, he's getting a ton of free points off transition, and all those advantages were enough to prevent his rTS% from dropping for the 6th season in a row, finally allowing him to plateau.

His FTr showing an unmistakable downward trend since his rookie season (.293, .290, .255, .274, .225, .261, .249, .239)

On/off (CTG) = -8.9 (13th percentile).
-5.8 offense (15th percentile).
+3.1 defense (25th percentile). Single season on/off isn't very illustrative but the Celtics have been better on defense with Jaylen on just twice in his career.

DPM = 24th
EPM = 39th
LEBRON = 51st

His vaunted playmaking improvement numbers and improvement from last season in parentheses:

AST% 16.6 (+0.1)
TO% 10.7 (-0.7)
USG% 28.9 (-2.5)

Loathe to use the above numbers to capture playmaking ability but what we do have isn't very impressive.
Still the undisputed king of Lost Ball turnovers.

Jaylen's outside shooting:
r3P% = -1.2 (+1.4)

Corner 3 Attempts % = 20.5% (+8)
Fewer attempts, more corner 3s, a slight improvement in 3p shooting.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:15 pm
by Stan34
BK_2020 wrote:The regular season is thankfully over and now it is time for a Jaylen Brown wrap-up. After what seemed like a torrid second half, in the first season of what should be his prime years, Jaylen ends the season with these numbers (last year in parentheses):
Points per 75 = 25.5 (27.12)
TS+ = 100 (100)
3PAr+ = 83 (91)
3P+ = 97 (91)
FTAr+ = 98 (93)
FT+ = 90 (93)

His scoring load is less, team around him is better, he's getting a ton of free points off transition, and all those advantages were enough to prevent his rTS% from dropping for the 6th season in a row, finally allowing him to plateau.

His FTr showing an unmistakable downward trend since his rookie season (.293, .290, .255, .274, .225, .261, .249, .239)

On/off (CTG) = -8.9 (13th percentile).
-5.8 offense (15th percentile).
+3.1 defense (25th percentile). Single season on/off isn't very illustrative but the Celtics have been better on defense with Jaylen on just twice in his career.

DPM = 24th
EPM = 39th
LEBRON = 51st

His vaunted playmaking improvement numbers and improvement from last season in parentheses:

AST% 16.6 (+0.1)
TO% 10.7 (-0.7)
USG% 28.9 (-2.5)

Loathe to use the above numbers to capture playmaking ability but what we do have isn't very impressive.
Still the undisputed king of Lost Ball turnovers.

Jaylen's outside shooting:
r3P% = -1.2 (+1.4)

Corner 3 Attempts % = 20.5% (+8)
Fewer attempts, more corner 3s, a slight improvement in 3p shooting.
He he a role player at best. I don't understand a brilliant mind like Brad doesn't notice.

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:22 pm
by BK_2020
I wouldn't go that far, or rather, I don't think Jaylen Brown would be a good role player even if he embraced the role. You need to be good at all the things Jaylen Brown is bad at to be a good role player.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:33 pm
by Stan34
BK_2020 wrote:I wouldn't go that far, or rather, I don't think Jaylen Brown would be a good role player even if he embraced the role. You need to be good at all the things Jaylen Brown is bad at to be a good role player.
He is not good even as a role player. I can't explain to me how the Celtics had multiple ECF and one NBA Finals with some good role players with limitations (smart can't shoot, RW can't stay healthy, Horford is old and so on).
Probably JT is the best player of all time.

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:50 pm
by Celticfan_N_FL
Stan34 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:The regular season is thankfully over and now it is time for a Jaylen Brown wrap-up. After what seemed like a torrid second half, in the first season of what should be his prime years, Jaylen ends the season with these numbers (last year in parentheses):
Points per 75 = 25.5 (27.12)
TS+ = 100 (100)
3PAr+ = 83 (91)
3P+ = 97 (91)
FTAr+ = 98 (93)
FT+ = 90 (93)

His scoring load is less, team around him is better, he's getting a ton of free points off transition, and all those advantages were enough to prevent his rTS% from dropping for the 6th season in a row, finally allowing him to plateau.

His FTr showing an unmistakable downward trend since his rookie season (.293, .290, .255, .274, .225, .261, .249, .239)

On/off (CTG) = -8.9 (13th percentile).
-5.8 offense (15th percentile).
+3.1 defense (25th percentile). Single season on/off isn't very illustrative but the Celtics have been better on defense with Jaylen on just twice in his career.

DPM = 24th
EPM = 39th
LEBRON = 51st

His vaunted playmaking improvement numbers and improvement from last season in parentheses:

AST% 16.6 (+0.1)
TO% 10.7 (-0.7)
USG% 28.9 (-2.5)

Loathe to use the above numbers to capture playmaking ability but what we do have isn't very impressive.
Still the undisputed king of Lost Ball turnovers.

Jaylen's outside shooting:
r3P% = -1.2 (+1.4)

Corner 3 Attempts % = 20.5% (+8)
Fewer attempts, more corner 3s, a slight improvement in 3p shooting.
He he a role player at best. I don't understand a brilliant mind like Brad doesn't notice.

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These guys said Jaylen would be out of the league years ago. The goalposts have moved so much I don't think they're on the field anymore.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:20 pm
by zoyathedestroya
Read on Twitter

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:49 pm
by Celts17Pride
zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter


Championship get him in the Top 10? :wink:

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:59 pm
by BK_2020
The Bridge program is literal nothing. It's a 5 day summer camp for like 50 kids to attend yoga classes and presentations. If that puts you in top 25 most influential Bostonian, Boston really needs to step up its game.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 7:41 pm
by MSTRJMES
With Milwaukee circling the drain and Giannis decides to move on, who says no to a JB trade got Giannis?

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 11:40 pm
by Tatumfor2
MSTRJMES wrote:With Milwaukee circling the drain and Giannis decides to move on, who says no to a JB trade got Giannis?


BK_2020 says no! He'd have to focus all his ire on Pritchard and that would be boring to talk about every day all day over and over and over and over and over....

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Sat May 4, 2024 12:09 am
by BK_2020
Tatumfor2 wrote:
MSTRJMES wrote:With Milwaukee circling the drain and Giannis decides to move on, who says no to a JB trade got Giannis?


BK_2020 says no! He'd have to focus all his ire on Pritchard and that would be boring to talk about every day all day over and over and over and over and over....

I'll figure something out.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Sun May 5, 2024 1:32 am
by BRUNiNHO91
BK_2020 wrote:The Bridge program is literal nothing. It's a 5 day summer camp for like 50 kids to attend yoga classes and presentations. If that puts you in top 25 most influential Bostonian, Boston really needs to step up its game.


Damn the hate extends beyond basketball. Somebody needs to look into this, I need real reasons for this obsession..

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Sun May 5, 2024 1:35 am
by BK_2020
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:The Bridge program is literal nothing. It's a 5 day summer camp for like 50 kids to attend yoga classes and presentations. If that puts you in top 25 most influential Bostonian, Boston really needs to step up its game.


Damn the hate extends beyond basketball. Somebody needs to look into this, I need real reasons for this obsession..

I've been vocal from the day I joined the reason I dislike Jaylen Brown is primarily how corny, fake, and opportunistic he is, his deeply negative basketball contributions being only secondary.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Sun May 5, 2024 3:01 am
by Sweet Serenity
BK_2020 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:The Bridge program is literal nothing. It's a 5 day summer camp for like 50 kids to attend yoga classes and presentations. If that puts you in top 25 most influential Bostonian, Boston really needs to step up its game.


Damn the hate extends beyond basketball. Somebody needs to look into this, I need real reasons for this obsession..

I've been vocal from the day I joined the reason I dislike Jaylen Brown is primarily how corny, fake, and opportunistic he is, his deeply negative basketball contributions being only secondary.


This explains everything.
Imagine being so adamant on an opinion of a guy you’ve never met lol

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Sun May 5, 2024 8:31 am
by Stan34
Sweet Serenity wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Damn the hate extends beyond basketball. Somebody needs to look into this, I need real reasons for this obsession..

I've been vocal from the day I joined the reason I dislike Jaylen Brown is primarily how corny, fake, and opportunistic he is, his deeply negative basketball contributions being only secondary.


This explains everything.
Imagine being so adamant on an opinion of a guy you’ve never met lol
He projects his internal bad object on Jaylen. That's a psychological mechanism.
He basically hates himself.

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Sun May 5, 2024 11:38 am
by BK_2020
Stan34 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I've been vocal from the day I joined the reason I dislike Jaylen Brown is primarily how corny, fake, and opportunistic he is, his deeply negative basketball contributions being only secondary.


This explains everything.
Imagine being so adamant on an opinion of a guy you’ve never met lol
He projects his internal bad object on Jaylen. That's a psychological mechanism.
He basically hates himself.

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Jaylen would probably drop the internal bad object and fumble it out of bounds anyway.

Re: Jaylen Brown Thread, con't – (New Poll)

Posted: Sun May 5, 2024 5:58 pm
by Bad-Thoma
BK_2020 wrote:
Stan34 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
This explains everything.
Imagine being so adamant on an opinion of a guy you’ve never met lol
He projects his internal bad object on Jaylen. That's a psychological mechanism.
He basically hates himself.

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Jaylen would probably drop the internal bad object and fumble it out of bounds anyway.


I'm pretty sure BK doesn't have an issue with Jaylen, he just really hates Stan.