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GreenGrizz wrote:Rondo is very inconsistent. We can't afford to have him like that on the playoff run. Cassell will give you every game. I learned that lesson when we had Dennis Johnson. I always undestimated him over his old age.

Are you in Europe or drinking because it is snowing out
(old college tradition). Dennis Johnson retired at 35.

Rondo just destroyed Sam Cassell head to head and what part of his game is inconsistent. Sam is coming to back him up if at all, maybe play in a 2 point guard line up some. But make no mistake you are overestimating Sam way more than you underestimated Dennis Johnson.

I don't like it when someone posts somthing with no link. I don't see this anywhere else online.

I can't find a link anywhere as well.

And we'll see about CLE. We still have the bi-annual exception if I'm right and Cassel may be worth it.

I'd actually be in favor of Rondo coming off the bench. He can create for himself and the offense with the bench more than with the Big 3. We would be MUCH better with Sam as the starter since he has been in the playoffs a dozen times and won a couple rings. Rondo is much more effective as the flour general, I can see him as our franchise player in 5-6 years since he has to dominate the ball and run the offense to be effective. I read here a couple days ago that it's because KG and Rondo have the same need of things running through them offensively to be effective, I agree with that. Since Rondo took big strides with KG out of the lineup I think our team would be nasty if they were split up after going 34-9 together.

bove310 wrote: We would be MUCH better with Sam as the starter since he has been in the playoffs a dozen times and won a couple rings. Rondo is much more effective as the flour general, I can see him as our franchise player in 5-6 years since he has to dominate the ball and run the offense to be effective.

Did you happen to catch the Celtics/Clipper game? Sam is a 15-20 minute a game player right now. Rondo is a better starter and should continue to start. The big question is the end of the game with 3 minutes left, that's were Cassell value is at the end of the game.

Did you not see the game? Cassell got ejected in the first half.

GreenGrizz wrote:I want him in Boston. We are not really going anywhere with Rondo.

Then we're not going anywhere. Dennis Johnson is not walking through that door.

bove310 wrote:Cassell got ejected in the first half.

because Rondo was owning him.

KG would hunt Sam down and hurt him if he signed with the Cavs.

celticfan42487 wrote:I can't find a link anywhere as well.

And we'll see about CLE. We still have the bi-annual exception if I'm right and Cassel may be worth it.

hey bud, havent seen you on here in a while, but thats probably me. i only quoted you to give an OT comment: how bout your boy altidore, between him, dempsey, and donovan, were all set at forward, we just need to figure our midfield out and stabilize the d a bit.

as for Cassell, ive seen nothing new, and while he wants to win, his primary impetus for joining the Cs is his friendship with KG, not just that we are contending

If my instincts are correct, Danny Ferry will do anything to get Cassell in Cleveland, just so he doesn't land in Boston.

I hope to God I'm wrong though.

Nobody is asking Sam to be the same guy he was in Houston or even Minny. What we need him to be is the Spurs version of Speedy Claxton. Back when Parker was 20 years old, Claxton stepped up big in the playoffs as the backup PG and spark off the bench...

celticfan42487 wrote:I can't find a link anywhere as well.

And we'll see about CLE. We still have the bi-annual exception if I'm right and Cassel may be worth it.

No, the exceptions are pro rated. It would be the difference between a pro rated 1.2 mil or 1.8 mil, about $200,000. While money is money to give Sam an extra 200,000 it would cost Boston around 1.2 mil in salary and tax as opposed to $400,000, as well as cost them the exception for next offseason.

It would be meaningless if the Cavs are talking about using MLE money. But before anyone goes crazy, does anyone really think that Sam is worth 4 mil for the rest of the year and the playoffs to CLE. Does CLE win another series because they have Sam Cassell?

I doubt he will sign with the Cavs, even though he can get the starting job. His ties with Garnett are still so close to this day, that he probably won't say no right into KG's face. He has also played with Ray for 4 seasons.

Celts17Pride wrote:41-11?

First Round playoff exit because of inconsistent PG play?

mzepol wrote:If my instincts are correct, Danny Ferry will do anything to get Cassell in Cleveland, just so he doesn't land in Boston.

I hope to God I'm wrong though.

Believe me, KG will make sure that Sam doesn't go there.

Ok so 3 pages and still no link hmmm.........

If true, I say Cassell will go to Denver. Anthony Carter starts in place of the injured (I think) Chucky Atkins and they've little else at the position. Not to mention, Cassell's long running relationship with head coach Karl and his aspirations to be a head coach learning from Karl as a player's coach.

Cassell to Boston could make sense but will Cassell and Rondo begrudge one another as teammates after Cassell's blatant flagrant foul on Rajon in that home game against the Clippers recently still fresh in everyone's mind. If Cassell were to mentor Rondo. Would Rondo listen now or would Cassell even bother seeing as he was showed up by Rondo.



"The next move Cassell could seek is a buyout of his contract, which would essentially be a divorce between him and the Clippers. Cassell said he would talk to David Falk, his agent, and discuss his options. If he seeks a buyout, it would have to occur by March 1, in order for Cassell to be eligible to be on the roster for a playoff team." Los Angeles Times

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No, the exceptions are pro rated. It would be the difference between a pro rated 1.2 mil or 1.8 mil, about $200,000. While money is money to give Sam an extra 200,000 it would cost Boston around 1.2 mil in salary and tax as opposed to $400,000, as well as cost them the exception for next offseason.

It would be meaningless if the Cavs are talking about using MLE money. But before anyone goes crazy, does anyone really think that Sam is worth 4 mil for the rest of the year and the playoffs to CLE. Does CLE win another series because they have Sam Cassell?

not sure that how much Cassell is worth is the measuring stick for CLE.

i would say that keeping LeBron happy is #1 on their list and since they aren't going to have any serious cap space the next couple of years this might be the only way to keep LeBron from starting to pack his bags...

and that would be devastating for their franchise...

plus, they need a PG big time.

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billy does the 242 stand for anything?

nasbahceltic wrote:billy does the 242 stand for anything?

Yes, that's our number of regular season wins for the next 4 years.