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Egregious Blunder wrote:dear mr. ainge,
if tony goes...i go.
-eB

i feel ya...i root for tony more then anyone on the team now. He's the realest player the c's got and he's all heart. i mean the celts are gonna win whether tony's on the team or not so why not keep him?

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Not only that, does anyone else still shake their heads that Tony blew his knee out on an uncontested dunk as a goof AFTER THE PLAY WAS STOPPED!!!!??

Says it all right there about his BBIQ...

C'mon, that was a freak, freak accident. He was playing extremely well and you could tell he was ectatic about it after struggling back from his first knee surgery. You can't hold that **** against someone, he was just playing hard and having fun.

Egregious Blunder wrote:also, people who demand he goes are only paying attention to one side of the court. his defense is still there, his offense will return with confidence.

also, this cat gave all he has to this team. hes been through tough times, his minutes have been cut drastically, but he doesnt sulk, he goes out and competes when called upon like a good soldier.

Sounds like you are talking about Brian Scalabrine and not Tony Allen to me.

Egregious Blunder wrote:but perk is a center who had one of the worst +/- and efficiency ratings of the team and of centers in the nba last year.

Please clarify

Chris Douglas-Roberts is the guy to pick up at #30 if he somehow lasts that long. If we decide to part ways with Tony this offseason, CDR is a guy that could add a similar spark on both ends.

cfan79 wrote:He used to be my favorite player, but now he's a shell of the player he could have been because of injuries. It looks as if his body isn't doing what his mind wants it to do. We need to bring in a player to take his position on the team in the offseason.

Why exactly does he HAVE to go? I guess I can understand not particularly wanting to extend him, but what makes him such a problem that the C's should make sure he's gone?

Mark Blount had to go. HAD to. Some say Ricky Davis had to go. I don't see any problem with TA other than that he hasn't played great. But on the other hand, he hasn't been terrible either.

I think TA is going through a tough spot in his career. He used to be all about athleticism, and now he can't be that. He's adjusting to playing below the rim, but honestly I don't see any reason why he won't eventually make that transition. He's still an excellent defender and slasher, and his jumper was getting better until recently. It looks more like he's in a slump to me. I think he'll work his way out of it.

How can one really form a really serious opinion until the dust settles. Playoffs are over, see who stays or goes, etc. The C's may have no one better, or may have better options. Right now they can afford to keep Tony with his knees and his sometimes boneheaded plays, with the contract he has. Next season things may be different. One has to wait and see.

I'm in the find-a-better-alternative-then-tony-allen-camp. Allen is great one night, and garbage the next. He makes a great defensive play and then dribbles the ball off his foot. He has proven that, if given the opportunity, he will foul someone at the buzzer for no reason. Maybe you give him 2 years, $6 million but no more.

People act like he is a great player. More like a decent sub.

Give his $ to guys like Posey and Powe. They bring it every night.

I don't know if TA is that bad but he still looks a little crippled. He played like an all star two year after his first injury and before he blew his other knee. I guess he may need two more years on his other knee. It has been only one year so far.

IMO, TA is like that mongrel that'll never be the dog you wanted but is loyal to the end. You can't get rid of him any easier than Big Al, and I'm still sorta feeling that.

He's developed a drive and dish that he'd have never thought of had he not blown out his good knee. He still gets steals or pass alterations every other trip down on a good night. He's learned to play a bit more like Ray Ray, driving a bit slower, sometimes with this head up.

I'd look to get a cheap 3 year deal on Tony to help anchor the 2nd unit.

I'm as down on tony as anyone BUT he did have a devastating knee injury and those things take time to get over. It may well be that next year his knee feels better and he plays better. If nothing else he's learned when to jam and when not to jam

Since they will be over the cap and releasing him doesn't free up enough money to make a difference, and as long as the FO still doesn't mind paying a small lux tax, then his option will be picked up for the one year. Highly doubt any other team will mess with him.

Could be traded after the option pickup. One more year will decide whether to hold long term or cut bait.