^^^ Yes but I don't think the Kidd/Haywood/Stevenson compare to this. There aren't rules that result in an automatic suspension for a bad foul in the playoffs.
However, the rules do say that purposely making contact with an official or coming off the bench during an altercation warrant automatic suspensions. Stern insisted on following the letter of the law with Phoenix on this last year, but for some reason he didn't do it this time around.
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there is a definite difference between what perk did and amare stoudemire and Diaw did
perk took a step forward, not running or anything, just a step to see what was going on, he was 20 feet from the action with no malicious intent no yelling not pushing nothing, just watching
when Stoudemire left the bench he didn't go far but he ran right into the middle of the ruckus and was involved, even though it was as a peacemaker
and i think thats the conclusion the league came to too
perk took a step forward, not running or anything, just a step to see what was going on, he was 20 feet from the action with no malicious intent no yelling not pushing nothing, just watching
when Stoudemire left the bench he didn't go far but he ran right into the middle of the ruckus and was involved, even though it was as a peacemaker
and i think thats the conclusion the league came to too
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Well the Owners meet over the summer and didn't change the law, but they probuly agreed upon opening for interpetation.
ZaZa didn't headbut KG. Crap like thinking that is EXACTLY why I whatch TNT and not Mike and whoever. Listening to CSNE feels like talk radio where they just scream their skewed view on you constantly and don't let you think for yourself.
Zaza got face to face with KG. and touched momentairly, that's not a headbut.
ZaZa didn't headbut KG. Crap like thinking that is EXACTLY why I whatch TNT and not Mike and whoever. Listening to CSNE feels like talk radio where they just scream their skewed view on you constantly and don't let you think for yourself.
Zaza got face to face with KG. and touched momentairly, that's not a headbut.
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JoshB914 wrote:^^^ Yes but I don't think the Kidd/Haywood/Stevenson compare to this. There aren't rules that result in an automatic suspension for a bad foul in the playoffs.
However, the rules do say that purposely making contact with an official or coming off the bench during an altercation warrant automatic suspensions. Stern insisted on following the letter of the law with Phoenix on this last year, but for some reason he didn't do it this time around.
Please quit making stuff up about the KG incident. It was pretty obviously that the ref grabbed KG and that he had no idea that it was even a ref holding him. Now plesase go back to your board.
Now the Perk/Williams stuff is more fuzzy b/c there was such a hubub last year during the Pheonix series
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Figured Marvin and Perk would get the boot because they stepped on the court and Stu/Stern said that they'd strictly enforce that rule. Did not firmly believe KG would because he would've been chucked if the ref thought he elbowed him; plus the refs generally like Garnett and likely gave him the benefit of the doubt.
For those complaining about the Suns vs. this time, I say that 2 wrongs don't make a right. He may never publicly admit it, but Stern knows he screwed up big time last year in that Spurs series. Doing it twice just to stay consistent is dumb. Move forward and make the right choices from then on, whether or not you admit past failures.
For those complaining about the Suns vs. this time, I say that 2 wrongs don't make a right. He may never publicly admit it, but Stern knows he screwed up big time last year in that Spurs series. Doing it twice just to stay consistent is dumb. Move forward and make the right choices from then on, whether or not you admit past failures.
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Gomes3PC wrote: Doing it twice just to stay consistent is dumb. Move forward and make the right choices from then on, whether or not you admit past failures.
I completely agree with your whole post. This is a big move by Stu and Stern to basically admit they were wrong and reinterpret the rules going forward. I think it's a big step for the NBA in the right direction too. I'll give them a lot of props because this is something they have not done in the past.
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DorfonCeltics wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I completely agree with your whole post. This is a big move by Stu and Stern to basically admit they were wrong and reinterpret the rules going forward. I think it's a big step for the NBA in the right direction too. I'll give them a lot of props because this is something they have not done in the past.
Not only that, it shouldn't be a blanket rule but rather a case-by-case basis. Did the guys on the Suns last year do ANYTHING to escalate the situation? No, so they shouldn't have been suspended. Same with Perk and Williams. Now if they had entered the fray, DEFINITELY. But this was the right call, and the one against the Suns last year was the WRONG call.
It's still 17 to 11!!!!