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Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 1:27 pm**

Armed with the mid-level exception that was worth $5.36 million during the 2007-2008 season, Detroit likely will use part of it to add a perimeter player at the small forward position.

Detroit is expected to reach out to Boston's James Posey, who significantly bolstered his stock with a strong showing in the playoffs in helping the Celtics capture their 17th NBA title.

However, landing Posey won't be easy considering his first choice is to go back to Boston and the Celtics appear willing to offer him a multi-year deal that probably will start at the full mid-level exception. Booth Newspapers

Posey is expected to get a lot of interest from a lot of teams, the Lakers among them, but will also be the Celtics’ top priority.

New Orleans is the other team rumored to be interested in the defensive and 3-point specialist. Posey is known to follow the money trail, which means Mitch Kupchak needs to clear room on the roster (Lamar Odom? Luke Walton?) if he has any hopes of landing Posey. Orange County Register

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 1:39 pm**

If he goes anywhere else. Then go to N.O. Screw detroit and LA.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 1:51 pm**

He's known to follow the money trail? After last year I don't think that sentence does James justice at all. In the prime of his career he took a one year deal way below market value to win another championship. That to me isn't the sign of a guy who goes after the cash. In hindsight it was a great move and ultimately he will get more money than he would have had he signed long term last offseason.

I'm starting to worry about throwing James the full MLE and have that contract weighing down on us as his production diminishes. I know Posey brings way more intangibles to the table but I'm starting to think if we're going to spend the full MLE we should do it on Pietrus. He's a very similar player to Posey and 5 or 6 years younger. I really don't like the idea of paying Posey 7 million when he's 36. We still haven to think long term here...

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 1:54 pm**

The Pistons "like" everyone it seems. One rumor had them connected to Josh Smith, another to Baron Davis and now James Posey. First, a shakeup of their starting five is forthcoming. Will Wallace be moved? Could it be Billups or Hamilton? Now you read that Wallace will likely be kept. What are they doing? Right now, they're the best team in the eastern conference if Boston doesn't resign, at least, Posey and House. At worst, they're still the second best team behind Boston regardless. Dumars could mess up a good thing there. I mean not much is broken with Detroit. Billups just wasn't one hundred percent for the latter part of the playoffs. Detroit will be back with a motivated Wallace in a contract year, a healthy Billups and Hamilton and an emerging star in Stuckey. I don't see a need for Posey by them.

They probably could use another solid power forward/center behind McDyess and besides Maxiell.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 2:42 pm**

Priority #1 is resigning James Posey. But if he does leave, I think Pietrus would be a great replacement. The guy is a lockdown defender and can hit the open 3. Posey was 38% from 3 (with a LOT of his makes being key buckets) while Pietrus hit 36% with basically the same points, rebounds and assists per game.

Posey's intangibles make him my first choice, but Pietrus is a younger version of Pose. I'll be thrilled if we bring Pose back, but if we can't, I'll be satisfied with Pietrus.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:03 pm**

bove310 wrote:He's known to follow the money trail? After last year I don't think that sentence does James justice at all. In the prime of his career he took a one year deal way below market value to win another championship. That to me isn't the sign of a guy who goes after the cash. In hindsight it was a great move and ultimately he will get more money than he would have had he signed long term last offseason.

i was thinking the same thing, that statement is just false. what a ridiculous thing to say

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:04 pm**

I don't want to give Posey that long of a contract. He shouldn't be signed for any longer than Ray is signed for, which is through 2009/2010. The guy only averages 7 points per game and shoots 38% from 3. Those are decent numbers, but there are many players around the league who can do that. I think we may overrate his contributions a little bit around here, after all the guy gets more time with the starters than any bench player and is playing with KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen. That's enough to make any one look good.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:05 pm**

The Pistons have Prince, they don't have room for Posey.

Everytime devote of a star SF though should be looking at Posey. But here's the thing. He's perhaps the best roleplayer SF in the league.. he's not an all-star. So all the teams with above MLE money should be looking for franchise center pieces for years into the future or all-star types.

If we are willing to go into the free agent market and find a PG and C without the MLE then we should easiely have the jump on Posey. It just means though that we may not have a vet PG or C again lol.

I'd really love to have the MLE and get a decent vet PG with it but if it comes down to two holes with Posey or no real holes on the team without Posey.. I'll take the teams chances with Posey available.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:11 pm**

I liked it better when everyone said that Boston had no bench... and now... Posey is the best thing since sliced bread.

I believe Posey wants to get paid... Full MLE plus multi years. He deserves it after the playoffs... but not with the Celtics if his agent wants too many years...

I'm going to let Danny figure it out...

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:12 pm**

Celtics_Champs wrote:If he goes anywhere else. Then go to N.O. Screw detroit and LA.

QFT

James, don't go to one of the 2 most putrid and classless franchises in league history.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:20 pm**

Posey isn't inflated because he's the opposite of KG, he makes all the big plays. I don't think I saw him miss a key 3 in the entire playoffs. He's a big reason why we took one of the games in DET.. anyone remeber him stealing the ball right out of Princes hand? That's a turnover that should never of happen by a player that has been to the ECF every year in his carrer.

Posey doesn't awe you with stats he awes you with doing everything a winner does. And lets not say he wasn't a leader on the team. The Big 3 on more then one occasion refrence words that he spoke and before we played MIA even you got the story of how Wade and Shaq truely missed his pre-game war hug and inspirational line.

During the regular season he was merely a bench player, during the playoffs he was a team murderer.

But for that same reason is why no one is going to throw more then full MLE at him. He's one of the best playoff role players in the league.. he's not a cornerstone to any rebuilding team.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:29 pm**

Posey was the reason I decided to root for the Celtics during the finals, since I respected him so much as a player. When it looked like the Heat would have to decide between Kapono or Posey a lot of Heat fans preferred Posey due to his defense and clutch threes. Don't make the same mistake Riley did and let him go. He is a must for any championship team.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:30 pm**

What's the latest on Mickael Pietrus? Anyone know if he and agent are seeking more or less in salary than Posey?

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:41 pm**

Pietrus is nowhere near the player Posey is. And why are people looking at stats when talking about JP?

I am sure other teams are interested but they also have think about their own financial flexibility. i expect us to re-sign Posey for fair value...

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:47 pm**

Oh, I would rather resign Posey. I was just curious about what Pietrus' status was so far.

This is funny from the Warriors board.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=819541

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 4:01 pm**

The reason we're talking about Pietrus is because he is a younger version of Posey. I think we're all in agreement that Posey is more valuable to us than Pietrus, but if some team gives Posey a ridiculous offer that Danny and co. isn't comfortable giving to a 31 yr old guy coming off the bench, then Pietrus is my pick as his replacement. A tough defender who can knock down threes and rebound.

With that being said, let's get Posey back in green and let's go for #18.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 5:00 pm**

Pietrus would provide Boston with that elusive European zing.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 5:09 pm**

Link?

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 5:39 pm**

I like Posey and obviously want him back just like everyone else, but the full MLE for multiple years just seems like an awful lot to give him. I see why N.O. or LA would do it since they feel like they are very close, and are desperate for that last piece of the puzzle that would put them over the top. But for Boston I'm not so sure. I guess at the end of the day I'm very confident that with our starting five, along with our relative depth at PF and C,** Ainge can somehow cobble together enough adequate depth in the back-court for the Celts to be the favorites to win it all again next year without putting a strain on the team's financial flexibility moving forward.

**I know it's be nice if we could add a back-up center, but Powe and Davis are certainly better than what the vast majority of the NBA has coming off the bench at the 4/5.

Posted: **Tue Jul 1, 2008 5:39 pm**

I'd give him 3 years full MLE or let him walk. Posey's a great role player but franchises ruin themselves in this league precisely by overpaying role players. I remember everyone was saying we just HAD to resign Rodney Rogers after the 2002 run and then we watched him become an albatross in NJ. I'm not comparing the two, I'm just saying you can't just adopt a strategy of giving FAs whatever they want. You have to have a plan and be disciplined within your objectives. Posey must be evaluated within that framework and a decision reached. You can't just let agents own you or you become the Knicks..

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