Brandon Webb or Jake Peavy
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Also, Peavy is two years younger and has better peripherals.
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2004 VORP
Peavy: 57.5
Webb: 22.2
Durability FTW!
Peavy: 57.5
Webb: 22.2
Durability FTW!
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Webb pitches more innings every year. I don't think he has missed a start in his career. He has increased his IP workload every season, too.
Youth means nothing with pitchers. Except that younger pitchers are probably more likely to get injured.
Youth means nothing with pitchers. Except that younger pitchers are probably more likely to get injured.
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Bleeding Green wrote:Webb pitches more innings every year. I don't think he has missed a start in his career. He has increased his IP workload every season, too.
Youth means nothing with pitchers. Except that younger pitchers are probably more likely to get injured.
Webb made three more starts than Peavy in 2005 and one more than him in 2006 so it's not as if he's lagging that far behind Webb. And, aside from ERA-related numbers in 2006, Peavy has pitched better in those starts than Webb.
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Webb's a great pitcher, it's just that Peavy's better.
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oakfanintheeast wrote:Bigboy tried to disprove Danny Haren earlier in the year with the xFIP stat.
he essensially said he was very lucky and would come back down to earth, based on xFIP .
yet haren still has a sub 3 ERA and is primed to win the Cy young.
To be fair, xFIP is a good metric provided that you believe home runs are primarily a function out of the pitcher's control and that an 11% HR/FB ratio is a true average leaguewide.
However it breaks down when it comes to extreme groundballers because of this normalized home run component. Groundballers tend to have higher HR/FB ratios because more often than not the flyballs they generate are "mistakes" and these mistakes are more frequently hit for HRs with respect to other "mistakes" made by your typical pitcher. This is also why Chien Ming Wang typically has an xFIP that isn't as pronounced as other groundballers; he has a real aversion to letting up home runs of any kind and has a ridiculous career 7.7% HR/FB ratio. (By comparison Webb has a 14.2% career ratio. King Felix, another extreme groundballer, has a career 15.5% HR/FB rate.)
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Peavy, and it's not really close.
0:01.8 A. Walker makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft (assist by E. Williams) +3 109-108
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9qvmXiEuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9qvmXiEuU
