Damon Stoudamire to the Celtics?

Post #49 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:04 am

My bad. Ray Allen was traded for Gary Payton! D'oh!

meatball sub · Post #50 » by **meatball sub** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:09 am

is that an elliott smith avatar?

Post #51 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:15 am

bove310 wrote:is that an elliott smith avatar?

Yes it is.

Red2 · Post #52 » by **Red2** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:48 pm

stouemire is essentially free while cassell would require us to give up something. I'm not sure danny really wants stoudemire but you have to consider him. he can handle the bal and hit the three and keep the offense moving

Rocky5000 · Post #53 » by **Rocky5000** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:33 am

If anyone actually believes that Celticsblog babble about Mighty Mouse being a bad guy, watch this video, it'll change your mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH-BRZCkQyY
He's pretty much devoted himself to helping Conley become a better player and understands his role 100%.

armageddon · Post #54 » by **armageddon** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:29 am

If Ainge felt a strong need for an undersized 34 year old point guard who can't play defense or pass he would have already signed Payton who is at least familiar with Boston.
I don't see mighty mouse passing the owners code of conduct.
I'd guess that there was a greater possibility of a trade for Cassel involving Powe, Allen and whomever.

John Locke · Post #55 » by **John Locke** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:34 am

it's a good interview...Seems like a nice dude...very humble...

ARB729 · Post #56 » by **ARB729** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:41 am

Off topic for this thread but I didn't want to start a new one. But just outta curiosity, what's the new PF over the mod's symbol?

Jammer · Post #57 » by **Jammer** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:52 am

RedSoxFan729 wrote:Off topic for this thread but I didn't want to start a new one. But just outta curiosity, what's the new PF over the mod's symbol?

PF is for PacerFan, a recently deceased moderator on the Pacer Board.

There is an article about him on the front page of RealGM (lower right).

hiphop1 · Post #58 » by **hiphop1** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:12 am

This would be a great signing. Then if we could add Webber we would be lookin at number 17 in the rafters.

ARB729 · Post #59 » by **ARB729** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:08 am

Jammer wrote:PF is for PacerFan, a recently deceased moderator on the Pacer Board.

There is an article about him on the front page of RealGM (lower right).

Thank you, I'm sorry I didn't mean any disrespect at all. I almost never go to the front page so i was curious. Thank you for letting me know, I'll keep his family in my prayers from now on.

humblebum · Post #60 » by **humblebum** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:29 pm

I don't really understand why there are so many people who are hating on Damon's game. He reminds me of Kenny Anderson when he was with the Celtics. I actually really liked Kenny's game and he was a real key for the offense with the Pierce/Walker duo. I can envision Damon really being able to successfully key the offense for the second unit when Rondo is out of the game. I think a backcourt rotation of Rondo, Ray, Tony, Eddie, and Damon is super, super solid. The only question I really have about bringing him in is Doc's ability to make a solid rotation. If bringing him in means more of Posey at the 4 spot than it's a definite no for me. Even if Damon is simply insurance as a third PG I think that's fine as well. My feeling is that House could be limited in the playoffs (when teams gameplan to stop him and pressure him fullcourt) and at that point Damon could be really valuable. I'd also prefer Cassell but I really see no reason to believe the C's will get him. And I'd rather not rely on a second and first year PG to lead this team in the playoffs.

Celts17Pride · Post #61 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:35 pm

My issue is as I stated previously, if Damon plays then who sits. Damon wants to leave Memphis because he isn't getting any playing time. If Damon plays 20-25 minutes then who sits.

The 2nd unit has been House, TA, Posey, Big Baby & others. If Damon is the backup PG then either House, Posey or TA sit. Otherwise you have a lineup that looks like this:

PG Damon
SG House
SF TA
PF Posey
C Big Baby

The question is do you want to mess with the chemistry of a 33-6 team?

Rocky5000 · Post #62 » by **Rocky5000** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:23 pm

The thing is, we didn't sign Posey to play backup PF, he should be playing backup SF. I believe we need another backup big.

hiphop1 · Post #63 » by **hiphop1** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:30 pm

Stoudamire/House
TA
Posey
Webber
Big Babby

Post #64 » by **shackles10** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:40 pm

Honestly I'm becoming more and more of a GP fan as our additional pg. Sam I Am is probably out of the question reality wise and if all we want is someone to bring the ball up and be more of a real pg compared to House I think he fits the bill better. You can play him with House and not have the smallest back court ever. You could even put GP on the shooting guard defensively if you wanted. He's friends with KG, has played with Paul, and has played for Doc. He's also accepted lesser roles, with championship experience, successfully in the past. That one season aside, he still has more playoff experience.

In regards to playing time of all these guys it seems to me most games we have House out there more minutes than we'd ideally like. Not that he isn't playing well, but what I mean is there are minutes each game where he is primary ball-handler and isn't that catch and shoot guy. If he isn't that guy he shouldn't be out there. This keeps him fresher for the minutes where he is that guy, and allows us to play someone more suited for the minutes when we need a primary ball-handler and floor general. We all look at our hypothetical break down of minutes and think wow 12 mpg is hardly even worth it to add the guy, but the reality is that is about what Tony Allen and Big Baby play (when not asked to step in and be a starter for injuries) and no one is saying they aren't playing a big role off the bench.

John Locke · Post #65 » by **John Locke** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:47 pm

With the big three in, House fits perfectly. But if we need a ball handler Damon is perfect.

Post #66 » by **shackles10** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:54 pm

I think Danny is waiting until Damon could legally be discussed and then decide who he likes better as a fit on the team after interviewing both he and GP. IMO, as a player, GP is the better fit.

Post #67 » by **shackles10** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:56 pm

John Locke wrote:With the big three in, House fits perfectly. But if we need a ball handler Damon is perfect.

He fits perfectly on the team, but not as a backup ballhandler. I think you gotta change that to "with the big three, a healthy Rondo, and not having to bring it up court against playoff pressure defense from the likes of Detroit and others, House fits perfectly".

Post #68 » by **sully00** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:59 pm

The thing that Damon does that gives him an edge over either GP or Cassel is he pushes the ball. That is so lacking when Rondo comes out. While House and Damon are smaller they have wheels and create a tempo on that second unit. You have to get out on them and that will open things up underneath for Posey, Davis and one of the 3 stars.

The more I think of Sam the less I think that he is a fit in Boston. Obviously a trade is one thing but if he was released he is going straight to Denver to play for Karl and start. The Nugs even have an expiring contract in Najera they can package with a #1 pick. Karl isn't going to freak when Sam doesn't play all world defense as nobody on his team does.

GP would be here already if he was an option. He doesn't push the ball, Ainge likes what he has in Allen and House more than what Payton can do at this point.