"if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

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"if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby toffee1 on Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:53 pm

When it comes to getting Morrow more involved, our two point guards have two entirely different approach:

Curry said that he will always look to pass to Morrow. Ellis said that Morrow got to be at the spot where WE can see him. Assuming we = ellis+jackson+??

"Yes I do, being he's the 3-point leader," Ellis said when asked if he feels a need to get Morrow more shots.

"But also, he's got to find his own shot,'' Ellis continued. "And he's got to be in the spot we can see him so he can get his open shots. But he's going to be all right."

Another solution is to play Morrow, a reserve, with rookie guard Stephen Curry, whom Nelson regards as the team's best passer and floor general. Curry said he always looks to pass to Morrow, which is why Nelson considered bringing Curry off the bench so the two could play together.

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports-headlines/ci_13673510
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Re: "if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby turk3d on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:02 pm

Monta also made another brilliant comment. "He needs to find his own shot at times". lol.

How about finding a guy who shoots 50% a shot once in a while?
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Re: "if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby Badly Browned on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:05 pm

Anyone still think monta is a PG?
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Postby Chris Cohan on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:08 pm

Yup.
Unstoppable, 5 assists, smart ball movement "when the defense gave it to him."

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Re: "if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby Apres Moi on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:17 pm

1. It's MILDLY telling that Monta said this and Curry said that. Mostly, it just seems like Curry is a more polished interview than Monta is. Growing up in an NBA family might have something to do with that. But yeah, Curry seems like he's more instinctively capable of being a passer.

2. It's not like Monta's wrong. Morrow DOES need to get himself open (a la Reggie Miller... a la Chris Mullin), and he does need how to learn how to get his own shot.
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Re: "if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby Thugleavy_34 on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:24 pm

It's a difference in passing philosophy in general. Good passers always look for the pass. Bad passers pass the ball if they happen to see a guy open. That's like looking to score if you happen to come across a wide open shot. If you're not looking for it, it's not going to happen that often. With everything, scoring, passing, rebounding, defense, you have to put yourself in the right position and then utilize technique to create a play. So Morrow does need to work on making himself available. That being said, there were stretches where he didn't even touch the rock, let alone touch it in a spot where he can shoot. As a PG it's your job to see that your players get touches, even if they aren't shots. Dribble the ball down, swing it to the neglected wing if he hasn't touched it in awhile. That wing may then in turn pass it, but at least he's involved in the play.
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Postby Sid the Squid on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:27 pm

How many low IQ shrimps, over all these many years , impacted who wins the NBA championship?

I can't think of any.

I have no idea if Monta has positive trade value now, or if he will have it in the future., but you have to make the trade if it becomes available. :beer:
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Re: "if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby Badly Browned on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:29 pm

Monta's never been great at interviews.

Morrow does get open, unfortunately the times he got open against Houston were when Maggs and Jack would rather take low % shots. The problem is the only person Monta looks to pass to is Jackson. Even through last year Monta seems very reluctant to dish out to AR or Morrow, but doesn't hesitate to get it to Jack.
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Postby gswlego on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:32 pm

There should be a quote from Jackson and Maggette..
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Re: "if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby toffee1 on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:36 pm

turk3d wrote:Monta also made another brilliant comment. "He needs to find his own shot at times". lol.

How about finding a guy who shoots 50% a shot once in a while?


How can "He needs to find his own shot at times" when Ellis's approach happened to be "If we can see him and he is open"? Morrow won't get the ball to find his own shot.

For Ellis the PG, the floor general. Playing PG means bringing up the ball, if there's someone who he can see and happened to be open, THEN the ball may be passed to that guy. Otherwise, Ellis keeps it. Setting up plays for someone or looking for someone ain't part of his job.
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Postby Apres Moi on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:37 pm

Sid the Squid wrote:How many low IQ shrimps, over all these many years , impacted who wins the NBA championship?

I can't think of any.

I have no idea if Monta has positive trade value now, or if he will have it in the future., but you have to make the trade if it becomes available. :beer:


How many shrimps have gone on 60% from the field, 20+ per game sustained tears?

Monta can be a great tool on this team. He's not a MUST trade. He's not exactly a must keep, but he's not toxic. Not yet.
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Postby Sid the Squid on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:38 pm

Monta "do what he do. He's a warriors. He want to always be a warriors."
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Postby Apres Moi on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:40 pm

PS you guys are attacking an idea that fell apart last season. Monta doesn't have primary PG duties on this team. Even if he's the only midget on the court, Nellie has said he likes Monta more off the ball.

We might as well be arguing about whether Kevin Barlow or Frank Gore should be starting.
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Re: "if we can see him" vs "always looks for him"

Postby Apres Moi on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:41 pm

Sid the Squid wrote:Monta "do what he do. He's a warriors. He want to always be a warriors."

:lol:

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Postby Thugleavy_34 on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:44 pm

That leads me to a thought...most PG sized players who aren't PGs, it should be an alarming red flag not only because they're undersized but because it might be an indicator that they don't have the mental goods necessary to learn that position, which means that their basketball IQ, even at an easier position, might not be up to par. Just a thought.
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