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Sloan forever

Postby FJS on Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:48 am

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Re: Sloan forever

Postby kebutah on Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:02 pm

This is only good if you are satisfied with regular season success and playoff disappointment.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby FJS on Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:43 pm

I use to like the guy... but too many years of disappointment
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby Charlie_S on Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:55 pm

FJS wrote:http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705341060/Jazz-Sloan-headed-for-extension.html


I seem to be the only one who doesn't mind it. Oh well. :lol:
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby QuantumMacgyver on Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:01 pm

Once Sloan leaves and Jazz "fans" see what its like to have a crap coach they'll all be reminiscing about the good old days of Sloan. I think people forget that if it weren't for the greatest basketball player of all time, the Jazz would have two championships under Sloan. Name five coaches in the league that you think are better than Sloan.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby JDubJazz on Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:43 pm

QuantumMacgyver wrote:Once Sloan leaves and Jazz "fans" see what its like to have a crap coach they'll all be reminiscing about the good old days of Sloan. I think people forget that if it weren't for the greatest basketball player of all time, the Jazz would have two championships under Sloan. Name five coaches in the league that you think are better than Sloan.


I come up with four, and they are all in the Western Conference, meaning the Jazz are pretty much doomed to be out coached in the playoffs every year. Phil Jackson, Nate McMillan, Greg Popovich, Rick Adelman.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby QuantumMacgyver on Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:46 pm

Rick Adelman? I don't see how he could be considered better than Sloan. On par maybe but to say he is better would be a stretch. Anyway, here is my point: Most any coach in the league that you can try and say is better than Sloan has next to no chance of ever coming to coach in Utah. So we can either deal with Sloan, who is one of the all time best coaches, or we can risk being like the rest of the small market teams in the NBA. Bucks, Grizzlies, Bobcats, Timberwolves. See a trend here? With the exception of the Spurs and maybe one or two other teams, small market teams are typically pretty pathetic. Since we can't sign big name free agents we have to have a coach who can get the best out of average players. Sloan is undoubtably the best at doing so. Besides, the second Sloan leaves Phil Johnson will take over the reigns and our team will still play the exact same way.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby Soul Patch on Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:54 pm

McMillan? Adelman I see as being on par with Sloan. Jackson and Popovich are both better coaches than Sloan, Brown has a case too. I love Sloan but I honestly would not mind him leaving. He's been here long enough to leave behind a lot of positives. Whoever takes over the coaching spot will be able to bring a new outlook to Sloan's system and philosophy but almost nobody would be able to completely undo what Sloan has set up for the past years.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby outerspacefella on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:54 pm

- How many rings would the Jazz have if Shaq/Bryant, Jordan/Pippen, Bryant/Gasol+great shooters, Duncan/Parker/Ginobili would have played for Sloan?

- How many rings would Jackson have with Sotckton/Malone/Hornaceck if he had to play against Jordan/Pippen/Rodman/Harper + a couple zebras?

Jerry Sloan is, without the shadow of a doubt, a top tier basketball coach. Of course he's not flawless, but no coach is flawless. There's just no other coach out there with Coach's ability to get the most with the less... and that's exactly what you want when no supertar's going to wear a little market team uni...

Anyway, there's people out there with really unsupportable ideas on any issue you want to analyze... so why in the hell would not be people thinking Sloan's a crappy coach?
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby UTJazzFan_Echo1 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:48 pm

Sloan is a HOF coach so obviously he knows what he is doing. I don't blame Sloan for the disappointments whatsoever, just look at what he has had to deal with. How can you blame the guy? I hope he stays around until this team finally reaches their full potential and give at least 1 more good deep playoff run.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby DiscoLives4ever on Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:18 pm

Sloan is the best we're going to get in Utah. When he's ready to retire I say give Phil or Ty a shot (unless a big name is on the market), but until then I'll stick with a known entity, flaws and all
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby HammerDunk on Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:23 am

To all you A-holes who can't see a good thing when you have it, enjoy our years of mediocrity when he retires and we have a new guy. For us to get another coach as good as Sloan is very unlikely. Personally, I think he is a top 5 coach in the league easy right now. But keep whining, you'll see soon enough.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby ColdBlue on Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:55 am

Sloan's biggest strength is his biggest weakness. He is conservative to a fault. He doesn't allow dynamics of individual talent come into play. He relies on hardnosed play and teamwork to grind out wins.

He is good if not the best in that regard. He is a prototypical drill seargeant, and brings out the best in certain individuals, but handcuffs others. He follows a template and there is no deviation from it.

To call Sloan a bad coach is wrong, but to put him on a pedestal is wrong also. He is what he is, and this system will give you a solid base, but I think to win a championship, you need to a little bit of dynamic tact and flexibility to exploit strengths and minimize weaknesses.
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Re: Sloan forever

Postby HolyToledo on Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:38 pm

ColdBlue wrote:Sloan's biggest strength is his biggest weakness. He is conservative to a fault. He doesn't allow dynamics of individual talent come into play. He relies on hardnosed play and teamwork to grind out wins.

He is good if not the best in that regard. He is a prototypical drill seargeant, and brings out the best in certain individuals, but handcuffs others. He follows a template and there is no deviation from it.

To call Sloan a bad coach is wrong, but to put him on a pedestal is wrong also. He is what he is, and this system will give you a solid base, but I think to win a championship, you need to a little bit of dynamic tact and flexibility to exploit strengths and minimize weaknesses.



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Re: Sloan forever

Postby JazzJuice on Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:46 pm

I find it amusing that any "Jazz fan" is a Sloan hater. If you are old enough to remember the Frank Layden days than 20+ years is plenty of time to lose interest in a team. If you have remained or become a Jazz fan during the Sloan era, than it because of Sloan... plain and simple. He deserves our thanks for the success of this franchise past and present. As soon as his coaching is the reason that our team is not as competative as it can be than he will be the first to call it quits.

You might think that I am a Sloan homer, but I say you are simply fair-weather and not a true Jazz fan. I value loyalty! Find a new team, it sounds like you might make good Laker fans.
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