Make Monta 6th man

[Coxy]

For 3 reasons.


1. Let Monta and Maggs abuse the other teams second unit and let them do what they do best, which is score and not think. After watching Jet Terry and Ginobili play over the past few games, these guys just torch the other teams D league guards when they come on and either push a lead further out and stem a flow of stuttering offense. Monta will still get his 30+ minutes, but it would be good for the Don to give a bit of a stuff you to Monta for not playing for the team.

2. Break up the Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson chum fest on court a little bit. Those 2 have a thing going where they dont look to pass to AR, Morrow or Curry on the court, so break them up from the beginning so Jax has to pass to someone not named Monta. Jax still starts for showcasing purposes.

3. Start Morrow with Curry. This is a no brainer, with Curry's ability to set people up, and Morrow being the greatest shooter in the history of the planet, we get Morrow into the flow straight away and it will stretch the defense having Morrow, Curry and Jax on the floor from the start, thus opening up the lane some more for Biedrins, and especially Randolph to work in. Morrow is also bigger than Monta for defensive purposes, although not exactly better. Also, Randolph and Morrow are bff's so the chemistry should improve having guys on the same page from the beginning of the contest. If we go down some points, then we have instant offense in Monta and Maggs off the bench which is a very tasty thought, and a worrying one for the opposition.


Ya'll dig.

[Coxy]

For shets and giggles, Terry is a +22 today and Ginobili was a +17. Guys just bash the second unit.

[shazam_guy]

I was saying this a few days ago. I think that would be Monta's best role on the team as Curry becomes the full-time PG and Morrow needs more minutes.

[Coxy]

Makes complete sense, and the Don should grow some gonads and get it done. Its best for the team moving forward.

[toffee1]

An excellent 6th man indeed, wait, we already have one in Magg. Oooops

[Chris Cohan]

You guys tried this argument when you were pimping Busty as the starter two summers ago.
Why don't you just get Monta traded to the team he'll be an All Star for, already?

Mitch Richmond II, coming right up (minus the 3 ball).

[old rem]

You guys tried this argument when you were pimping Busty as the starter two summers ago.
Why don't you just get Monta traded to the team he'll be an All Star for, already?

Mitch Richmond II, coming right up (minus the 3 ball).

We still don't know how good Ellis can be,but we know that with all the obstacles...he's damn good anyhow. We SHOULD have S Jackson moved to a 6th man role where he's more manageable

[Mylie10]

Even if I agreed that it was a good idea....It would not go over well at all. The one thing Riley and Nelson promised Monta all off-season was 40 minutes of playing time. If they were to force him to be a bench guy, then the so called attitude you guys think he has now, would explode into something that we haven't seen yet.

You guys may be right about Monta and Morrow switching it up. And for the future that may be the way to go. But it can't happen while Monta is on the roster.

Monta and Biedrins had to pay their dues. They had to wait until the Don deemed them ready for bitg minutes in critical situations. Azubuike had to wait until the Don felt he had earned his minutes by watching and learning.

Now all of a sudden Monta and Biedrins will see a rookie come in and start. Then they see Randolph being tagged as the possible savior of the team. All off season Nelson tells Monta that he's their guy. Then they're gonna pull the rug out and strip him of his starter tag? Not likely.

It would affirm what all of the players who used to be here have been saying around the league about our crazy coach and crazy ownership. Look what they're doing to Mike Montgomery.

This last game was painful to watch and Monta struggled. but let's be clear that it's early and these guys don't know each other yet. You have to give Monta his minutes and let things work out. If we eventually trade him we'll get more out of the deal with him putting up numbers.

Plus we already have our 6th man messing things up.

[shazam_guy]

Sorry, which Busty was being promoted as the starter? I wasn't around then. Was that Azubuike?

[shazam_guy]

Also, Mylie, what you say makes perfect sense. I think we're talking about what we SHOULD be doing, not what would be admittedly hard to in the midst of a lot of already clumsy management mishandling.

[Coxy]

Yeah, I understand that it wont happen for a number of reasons, but it SHOULD.

[Chris Cohan]

Sorry, which Busty was being promoted as the starter? I wasn't around then. Was that Azubuike?

Marco Belinelli.

[old rem]

Even if I agreed that it was a good idea....It would not go over well at all. The one thing Riley and Nelson promised Monta all off-season was 40 minutes of playing time. If they were to force him to be a bench guy, then the so called attitude you guys think he has now, would explode into something that we haven't seen yet.

You guys may be right about Monta and Morrow switching it up. And for the future that may be the way to go. But it can't happen while Monta is on the roster.

Monta and Biedrins had to pay their dues. They had to wait until the Don deemed them ready for bitg minutes in critical situations. Azubuike had to wait until the Don felt he had earned his minutes by watching and learning.

Now all of a sudden Monta and Biedrins will see a rookie come in and start. Then they see Randolph being tagged as the possible savior of the team. All off season Nelson tells Monta that he's their guy. Then they're gonna pull the rug out and strip him of his starter tag? Not likely.

It would affirm what all of the players who used to be here have been saying around the league about our crazy coach and crazy ownership. Look what they're doing to Mike Montgomery.

This last game was painful to watch and Monta struggled. but let's be clear that it's early and these guys don't know each other yet. You have to give Monta his minutes and let things work out. If we eventually trade him we'll get more out of the deal with him putting up numbers.

Plus we already have our 6th man messing things up.

uh huh.

We have a situation often described as a circus or a soap opera or "disfunctional". We gave away Craw and will trade Jackson for minimal value (and later Maggette too),so a plan that tells Monta that he's kind of an outsider here....may be a matter of GSW AGAIN digging it's own grave. All who enter here are doomed,may not be the team motto you want.

I LIKE Curry,but I STILL feel Monta is special talent. The BEST move was to (finally) designate Monta the PG rather than just tease and waffle and delay. Curry would play plenty,at both G spots and we'd have a rotation where Morrow gets plenty of action. I think Ellis HAS the ability to be a VERY good PG but over the past 2 yrs...he's only REALLY been in that role a handful of games. Nellie said one thing and did another, basically put Ellis in the "combo" role,so Monta has that experience but,what is missing is some COMMITMENT. Monta mostly has had a pattern of play 30 min at SG and 5 min at point,or maybe play a bit more PG---but with Jack doing a point F and actually being the hub guy who's dominating the ball. Late last year.....Monta had a game with 42 pt and 9 asst.....so, I'd tend to think that shows what's possible. That was a no Jackson game. CJW also mysteriously racked up "real Point G" numbers in games where Jack was out. Probably,soon,Jack will be "out" permanently.

I want GSW to stabilize,to keep the 8 young guys,and add to that core. I want GSW to be deep and versatile,to have the focus on the main 10 players more than just the usual 5 starters or a couple guys we see as the stars. Nellie at times...seems to lean to that,but Nellie likes to dabble a bit,and he tends to revert to his pet small lineups. Unconventional can be a mixed bag.

[turk3d]

We need Jack gone, and then (as Sleepy suggested) we can deal with Monta. He's definitely influencing Monta (in a bad way). Once Jack's no longer here, then we'll find out more about Monta and what he's really made of. In the meantime, maybe we ought to start calling him Jack Jr. (or is it Jackass Jr.)?

[Coxy]

"Jackju"