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2010 THREAD

Postby _-IvIadNice-_ on Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:02 pm

This is for anything associated with 2010; potential targets, new salary cap info, new players that are entering the 2010 race etc. Try and keep it respectful! This season it will be a hot topic and I know the board will want some where to post there thoughts so here it is.....GT3



Well was up guys I'm MadNice and I would like to introduce myself to this Miami Heat board. I would like to start off saying that I am a Wade/ Arroyo fan and I hope the season goes well.
I am would like to discuss about 2010 and our goal. Obviously Pat is waiting and being very paitent with the plan, which I admire. So far we look great and JO, Beas, and Wade are forming a solid duo that can attract FAs.

The TARGETS ARE
1.Bosh-Would make an exellent 1-2 punch with Wade and would make a Twin Tower lineup with O'Neal which they are friends off the court too. Double Double guy.
2.Stoudemire-May be injury prone and a little declining but could give Wade that All-Star big man that we lack. Lets be real O'Neal is a great centre but would never have an MVP season like in his old days but he could give a solid 20-10.
3.Try to trade for Oden if possible chance. Lets say Oden has a horrible season and the Blazers want to get rid of him and his contract, we should take a chance on a big 7-1 guy and see what he has but we may need some time.

IF O'Neal provides this team that presence in the midldle and stays healthy, we may see a 50 win team soon. Same goes with Beas but I am litttle worried about his height, poteintial, mindset but theres no denying his talent with the jumpshot, athletelism, and skills. Lets keep our fingers cross and we fans MUST support this team and Wade with all possible chances. I like the signings(Arroyo exactly). Focus is frontcourt, SF position. The bench looks great and will improve gradually.

PAT RILEY NEEDS TO BASE THIS TEAM OFF OUR CHAMPIONSHIP SQUAD BECAUSE THAT TEAM WAS VERY GOOD AT ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME.
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Re: The 2010 Plan

Postby TrueRain on Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:10 pm

I say the number one target should be LeBron. Yeah, i know pretty unlikely. But that's a dynasty right there and would dominate the league for years to come.

But more realistically, I see Boozer as the most likely signing. If we're looking at bigs, we should go for Bosh obviously. But I think Toronto will most likely be able to resign him, unless they don't make the playoffs.
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Re: The 2010 Plan

Postby MartyConlonJr on Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:18 pm

Nothing better than to see Bosh tearing it up, and Toronto losing (although todays game was Orlando, so absolutely understandable). Bosh and JO didn't work in Toronto. Don't know why you'd expect it to now, although JO is playing better to start this season. Money wise, I don't know if JO would be resigned unless we managed to sign one of these guys in a sign and trade so we wouldn't need to renounce these guys.
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Re: The 2010 Plan

Postby _-IvIadNice-_ on Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:19 pm

Totally agree with you as we do have a small chance of bringing in LeBron. Lets say Cavs have a horrible season and they lose in the second round to the Celtics, and then we resign Wade, tell O'Neal to sign for less and then bring in LeBron would be terrifc I say. I do not like to flirt with that Boozer idea. I just don't see him as a All-Star. He could average a double double and fit nicley with JO's defence but WHAT POSITION AND SPOT WOULD BEASLEY HAVE IN THIS SQUAD if we bring in bigmen. But remeber we can get JJ, TMAC, YAO, DIRK, JKIDD, and many more so we just have to wait and enjoy this season. Hopefully Wade doesn't get lured away and that he stays confident in the Team Mangement.

EDIT=I think they could work out again. They were having a terrific chemistry and O'Neal has what Bosh somewhat lacks is Shot Blocking and a defence monster mentality. The reason the raptors traded O'Neal was because of his injury at the time and that Bargs was developing fast and it looked like O'Neal didn't fit their so called "European Style" team and looks like they gave up on him. O'Neal and Bosh are terrifc I say and if we want to beat the Lakers or any other future Twin Tower team, we need THAT SIZE.
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Re: The 2010 Plan

Postby MartyConlonJr on Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:27 pm

I'm not really a Boozer fan either, he seems less interested in playing his ass off than he is in getting as much money as possible, and playing as few games as possible unless it is a contract year. It wouldn't surprise me, as his next contract may be his last, that he signs and feigns a career ending injury once the money is locked in. On the other side of it, he is a 20/10 power forward, perfect for the pick and roll, is the same age as Wade, rebounds the heck out of the ball, and is good friends with the Arisons, making him less likely to screw them IMO.

I just question his passion for the game, which is a huge concern with such big money.
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Re: The 2010 Plan

Postby BFRESH44 on Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:51 pm

Boozer comes to Miami, you will NOT see the Boozer whom milks injuries, and plays unwhelming defense. He will be balls to walls if he had an opprtunity here. He's VERY close with the Arison family.

With that being said, he's obviously Plan C, probably even plan D, so I hope it doesn't come to that.
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Re: The 2010 Plan

Postby miamiballer on Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:53 pm

plan A lebron
plab B bosh
plan C amare
plan D yao
plan E joe johnson
plan F boozer
plan G howard
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2010 Offical Thread

Postby GameTime_3 on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:27 pm

This is for anything associated with 2010; potential targets, new salary cap info, new players that are entering the 2010 race etc. Try and keep it respectful! This season it will be a hot topic and I know the board will want some where to post there thoughts so here it is......
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Re: 2010 THREAD

Postby salqaddoumi on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:40 pm

People still want Boozer? Seriously?

He's terrible. He plays no defense, he's always injured, he doesn't give a **** about the game, and he's almost strictly a jump shooter at this point. I'd seriously res-gin Haslem over this guy, at least I know he's going to play his heart out every night and play some D.
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Re: 2010 THREAD

Postby GameTime_3 on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:44 pm

My 2010...

1. Lebron
2. Amare
3. Bosh
4. Joe Johnson/Plus another key FA'
5. Gay/Noah
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Re: 2010 THREAD

Postby TrueRain on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:45 pm

I dont want Boozer. I said he'd probably be the most likely and easiest target for us to obtain.
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Re: 2010 THREAD

Postby _-IvIadNice-_ on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:53 pm

salqaddoumi wrote:People still want Boozer? Seriously?

He's terrible. He plays no defense, he's always injured, he doesn't give a **** about the game, and he's almost strictly a jump shooter at this point. I'd seriously res-gin Haslem over this guy, at least I know he's going to play his heart out every night and play some D.


Totally agree man give me five amigo. :D But seriously we have a perfect chance in 2010 to make a run for them FA's.By the way I never thought that this would become the 2010 thread and its my first post. I feel very welcomed.
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Re: 2010 THREAD

Postby DntBJelous on Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:14 am

lebron alongside wade would be heavenly
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Re: 2010 THREAD

Postby fishfuego. on Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:11 am

DntBJelous wrote:lebron alongside wade would be heavenly


what a dream that would be.
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Re: 2010 THREAD

Postby HeatSince88 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:27 am

I think Riley's plan is to have Wade call his buddies LeBron and Bosh, and implore them to make Miami their first visit July 1st.

Then Riley rolls out the most ridiculous courting of free agents the world has ever seen ... red carpets everywhere they go ( via limo's, yachts, helicopters) ... a block party on the beach in their honor with G-stringed Latina honeys shaking their booties everywhere ... a nighttime concert at the AAA that night featuring dudes like Flo Rida and other Miami rappers. Then a fullcourt press and "selling of the vision" from the greatest ever seller of visions, Pat Riley.

How can we get both to visit if we only have $22 mill, when we'd need $36 mill to offer the max, you ask? Well according to a recent article, Riley's plan is to offer the Big 3 (Wade, LeBron, Bosh) deals starting at the highest he can afford to get all 3, which is about $14 mill each. They'd be giving up some money in the shortterm, but doing something absolutely historic in the longterm. That's the vision. And with an opt-out after Year 3, then longterm max deals given at that point once we have their Bird rights, the money becomes alot less of an issue.

And I also imagine Riley would offer to sign-and-trade Beasley to one of those guys' franchises if they both agreed to sign, which enables them to get a LOT more money from the resulting cap space (and higher raises due to Bird rights issues), and just as importantly to save a little face with their current fans by giving them a young stud in return. Doing so would enable them to get very close to the max if they wanted. Or they might say "Nah, let's keep Beas - we need him for our title runs."

If the Big 3 scenario fails, perhaps that means we "only" get a commitment from Bosh. That's still a friggin home run. If we get neither Bosh or LeBron to commit, at least we gave it the best shot we could. It might even be a good idea to convince Joe Johnson to come to the July 1st party too, telling him we'll sign the first 2 of those guys to make a commitment to the "$14 mill each" plan. Whether that's LeBron/Bosh, Bosh/Johnson, LeBron/Johnson, etc. That way we have a fallback plan in case both Bosh and LeBron turn us down. It would be kinda crappy to only call Joe Johnson on July 12th once we get turned down by others ...

Gonna be interesting, that's for sure.
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