OT: Nocioni update

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OT: Nocioni update

Postby anorexorcism on Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:33 pm

Kind of makes me feel bad. If this guy was just willing to not be a chucker and would have taken less shots, I would gladly have chosen him over Deng because he's exactly what we need right now. Intensity/aggression/anger and 3 point shooting at the 3 spot, at half the price.

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/2298417.html

Kings small forward Andres Nocioni and San Antonio guard Manu Ginobili stood on the AT&T Center floor Saturday night, two Argentines catching up before tipoff.

There was a visible bond, a mutual respect rooted not only as countrymen but in the similar ways in which they approach the game. But there was also the halfcourt line running between them, a symbolic separator of sorts that created a far more literal scene than necessary.

It's obvious they are living in vastly different basketball worlds.


"Last year was really tough," Nocioni said. "It was the first trade of my career, and in the middle of the season change teams, to see new teammates and try to find my place was hard. Right now is much better for me."

The adjustments haven't been easy off the court, either. Nocioni keeps to himself while preferring the company of his wife and two young boys. But he hasn't seen his family – in General Pico, Argentina, with his 5-year-old son in school – since the start of training camp. A reunion may not be possible for another month. Despite being alone, he's not one to fill the void by spending more time with teammates.

Beno Udrih, a Slovenian point guard who is one of Nocioni's closest friends on the team, calls him "a quiet one." He's described as all work and no play on the road, most often relaxing in his hotel room or going to dinner by himself. You won't find him taking part in the nightlife.


"He can be funny," Thompson said. "Guys (give him a hard time) about the tattoos he has – the wolf, Scrappy from 'Scooby Doo' that's on his leg. He doesn't have the brightest skin color. … Us American guys think he's a little funny with his accent."

Kings coach Paul Westphal said he has enjoyed Nocioni.

"He's a great guy," Westphal said. "He just wants to come play basketball and come give everything he has. Everybody would like to have him on their squad."


This piece made me sad. As much as he got on my nerves Noce doesn't deserve to be on a lottery team. I hope he gets traded to a contender and wins a ring.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby DuckIII on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:02 pm

anorexorcism wrote:This piece made me sad. As much as he got on my nerves Noce doesn't deserve to be on a lottery team. I hope he gets traded to a contender and wins a ring.


As desperate as I was to get him out of town, I agree with this. I really hope a contender comes and rescues him before the trade deadline. You know that guy is just hating it.

That said, he needs to stop sucking so that another team will even want him. He's putting up crap this season so far, which reminds me why I couldn't stand the guy in Chicago anymore by the time he mercifully left:

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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby Addicted123 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:04 pm

anorexorcism wrote:
This piece made me sad. As much as he got on my nerves Noce doesn't deserve to be on a lottery team. I hope he gets traded to a contender and wins a ring.


I think it was meant to be a positive piece, but it was pretty sad to read. I wish Nocioni the best! I would love to see him on a contending team.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby AUDIOsurf on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:09 pm

anorexorcism wrote:He doesn't have the brightest skin color. …

yeah they're called white people jason
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby Scott May on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:52 pm

I can think of approximately 40 million reasons why Nocioni should shut his boca, and why I don't feel sorry for him.

Quit chucking, quit chasing the ball the way a raccoon chases shiny objects, and remember a few plays, Noce, and it'll take just that much less time for Sacramento to stop sucking.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby Cliff Levingston on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:55 pm

Scott May wrote:I can think of approximately 40 million reasons why Nocioni should shut his boca, and why I don't feel sorry for him.

Quit chucking, quit chasing the ball the way a raccoon chases shiny objects, and remember a few plays, Noce, and it'll take just that much less time for Sacramento to stop sucking.

Without putting it as bluntly as that, Cliff Levingston pretty much agrees. He's not getting paid any less to play there and he's getting plenty of playing time. It's up to him and his teammates to work together to not suck.

But to clarify, it doesn't appear Nocioni is complaining about anything. He's simply keeping to himself and seems like he's down first and foremost because he doesn't have his family there, and second, because his team sucks. So to address your post directly, he doesn't need to shut his "boca" cause he never really opened it.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby Scott May on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:59 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:So to address your post directly, he doesn't need to shut his "boca" cause he never really opened it.


And, no, he no longer plans to share any doubts and concerns about the Kings with an Argentinian publication, as he did shortly after his arrival.


Fair enough -- Noce needs to continue to keep his piehole shut.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby mr.ankle on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:59 pm

He get what he deserves he was a big time hypocrite
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby MAQ on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:04 pm

Scott May wrote:Fair enough -- Noce needs to continue to keep his piehole shut.

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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby HomoSapien on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:07 pm

The hell with Nocioni. For a player so passionate about basketball, he sure plays like a dingbat.

I've never seen a basketball player play so selfishly and get a free pass from the media. Say what you will about Gordon, Deng, and Hinrich ---- Nocioni made Larry Hughes look bashful.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby Rerisen on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:09 pm

I miss Noc the personality but not Noc the player. His confidence was down on the team by time he left, and he wasn't the same player that was being productive on both ends like he was his first couple seasons here when the camaraderie was better.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby EastBayFJ on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:13 pm

Noc on a team with some discipline is a vastlly different player.

You have seen how he has performed in his National team and with Skiles when Skiles had control

But when Skiles's Bulls unravelled Noc unravelled with it and didn't have the personal discipline to play within the confines of how a game was playing out. The more he forced and tried to crash through ..he crashed.

Milwaukee have enough sh*tty contracts to trade and rescue him altthough may balk at his cost and he could pan out well again there

I think he would be an absolute killer in Boston and San Antonio where there are hard systems and accountability in place . Probably San Antonio would be the perfect fit.


I liked him . I liked his effort . But he needs to learn how to do himself a favor
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby JackFinn on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:14 pm

Us American guys think he's a little funny with his accent


Yeah. It's called you're a douchebag, Jason.
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby MAQ on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:16 pm

JackFinn wrote:
Us American guys think he's a little funny with his accent


Yeah. It's called you're a douchebag, Jason.

absolutely not...noch has the voice of an eleven year old...and it's quite funny to hear it come from such a hairy man
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Re: OT: Nocioni update

Postby HomoSapien on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:19 pm

Imagine how different the tone of this article would've been if Nocioni made a comment about how dark Jason Thompson's skin is.
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