The Suns Future Front Court?

[JMac1]

What do you guys think about this once Grant retires in two years?

Frye 6'11
Amare 6'10
Clark 6'10

That is a big front court even though we don't have a true center.


I know everyone likes the "traditional' center, but Frye keeps the lane so clear for a penetrating PG, thus we have 6 guys who have scored at least 20 points in only three games. Frye and Steve allows us to have 6 twenty point scorers.

[ginobiliflops]

Clarke is the only one who is guaranteed to be here a long time. As good as Frye has looked, he's only played 3 games with us and he's on a 1 year deal and Amare can opt out as well, although I doubt he turns down 17 mil.

[DBrimstone]

Clarke is the only one who is guaranteed to be here a long time. As good as Frye has looked, he's only played 3 games with us and he's on a 1 year deal and Amare can opt out as well, although I doubt he turns down 17 mil.

I doubt Frye will leave though. If he continues to make 3's and take people off the dribble he'll get a decent contract. And I agree about Amare. I almost expect him to opt out because he thinks he's a max contract player but he's not, which he'll learn, just like Marion did. If he does leave though, I'd be happy if we went after David Lee long term. Not quite as offensive as Amare but he can grab rebounds like nobodies business. And the way we've been playing so far, everybody else seems to be scoring just fine.

[Kerrsed]

If what Traxxe said about Amare is true (which i hope isnt as I am a huge Amare fan) i say let Amare opt out, or trade him by the All-Star game. We should throw some cash towards Rudy Gay. JJRedick is also a FA in 2010, and i could see him excelling in our offense. He would be good coming off the bench if we lose JRICH or Barbosa.

Here is a list of 2010 FA.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-09-10

[GoSunsGo]

Can someone link me to what Traxxe said? I've been combing the threads but no luck. Thanks in advance.

[Kerrsed]

Can someone link me to what Traxxe said? I've been combing the threads but no luck. Thanks in advance.

It was in the Last Game Thread.

I am pleased with what I see. I have been holding back about Amare for a while but here is a tidbit...

Look to Amare to make up for certain defeciencies offensively by playing D more so. This is a contract year for him and more surgery is utterly unacceptable. Amare is in game shape now and don't believe much of the rhetoric saying otherwise. He may not be 100 percepnt but their is suspicion he'll never be the Amare of old. He is lacking the explosiveness... evidenced by one real dunk in these three games. He is not elevating like he used to and this has been noticed. Wether this is a subconcious fear of jostling his eye or a knee issue I haven't heard.

Notice many times when he got the ball in the post he accurately lobbed it in from three or four feet out. Previously that would be a dunk attempt. Amare isn't doing this from the beginning of the game when his legs are fresh. He's not doing it at all. There is concern from people around the organiation about Amare and I've been saying this for quite some time. Worst case scenario is that he will not be the freak athlete he was but he will develop a better perimeter and wider array of shots to try and make up for fading explosiveness.

Again... people are hoping this is not the case. There is valid concern though that should be shared by everyone. Hopefully it is a confidence trigger caused by the injury.

If i remember correctly, his sources are in ESPN.

[lilfishi22]

aa86: It's in T-Wolves or Warriors game thread.

From the history of the Suns current FO, if it's a negotiation between a healthy and productive Amare and them, I see our FO backing out of a max deal before Amare succumbs to a less than max extension. I believe our FO wants to keep Amare here but not for a max deal even if he puts up 25/9/2. Sarver seems adamant to stay below lux tax line and if that means letting Amare go and taking the savings, that's what he'll do.

Frye has a chance a stay after his current contract. I think we'll offer him something around mid level and he'll be stupid not to accept it. Clark will be a long-term guy without a doubt.

[dantian]

Can someone link me to what Traxxe said? I've been combing the threads but no luck. Thanks in advance.

It was in the Last Game Thread.

I am pleased with what I see. I have been holding back about Amare for a while but here is a tidbit...

Look to Amare to make up for certain defeciencies offensively by playing D more so. This is a contract year for him and more surgery is utterly unacceptable. Amare is in game shape now and don't believe much of the rhetoric saying otherwise. He may not be 100 percepnt but their is suspicion he'll never be the Amare of old. He is lacking the explosiveness... evidenced by one real dunk in these three games. He is not elevating like he used to and this has been noticed. Wether this is a subconcious fear of jostling his eye or a knee issue I haven't heard.

Notice many times when he got the ball in the post he accurately lobbed it in from three or four feet out. Previously that would be a dunk attempt. Amare isn't doing this from the beginning of the game when his legs are fresh. He's not doing it at all. There is concern from people around the organiation about Amare and I've been saying this for quite some time. Worst case scenario is that he will not be the freak athlete he was but he will develop a better perimeter and wider array of shots to try and make up for fading explosiveness.

Again... people are hoping this is not the case. There is valid concern though that should be shared by everyone. Hopefully it is a confidence trigger caused by the injury.

If i remember correctly, his sources are in ESPN.

I'm not really worried. For all faults Kerr has been at, he appears to be frank with the players. Marion didn't like the sound of it but reality proved Kerr right. Amare is probably told of all the considerations openly by Kerr. So, I don't believe he'd hold it against Suns for not extending him already now. After the season, whether he opts out or not, Suns should remain the favorite to get his service to the market price, unless they get a trade proposal midseason they really liked and Amare consented to re-up with the target team.

As to his game, though he lacks def. fundamentals, the reduced athletism might force him to work out alternatives to be effective if not still dominant on the court. Mind you, Karl Malone improved his defense a great deal later in his career. Rasheed, Dice all did similar things. So, Amare with slightly reduced athletism might not the spectacular self he once was, but may not be less effecitive for the team.

[DirtyDez]

The TP hire was terrible, and a few so-so draft picks but other than that Kerr has done a good job considering who his boss is.

[Kerrsed]

[Traxxe]

Can someone link me to what Traxxe said? I've been combing the threads but no luck. Thanks in advance.

It was in the Last Game Thread.

I am pleased with what I see. I have been holding back about Amare for a while but here is a tidbit...

Look to Amare to make up for certain defeciencies offensively by playing D more so. This is a contract year for him and more surgery is utterly unacceptable. Amare is in game shape now and don't believe much of the rhetoric saying otherwise. He may not be 100 percepnt but their is suspicion he'll never be the Amare of old. He is lacking the explosiveness... evidenced by one real dunk in these three games. He is not elevating like he used to and this has been noticed. Wether this is a subconcious fear of jostling his eye or a knee issue I haven't heard.

Notice many times when he got the ball in the post he accurately lobbed it in from three or four feet out. Previously that would be a dunk attempt. Amare isn't doing this from the beginning of the game when his legs are fresh. He's not doing it at all. There is concern from people around the organiation about Amare and I've been saying this for quite some time. Worst case scenario is that he will not be the freak athlete he was but he will develop a better perimeter and wider array of shots to try and make up for fading explosiveness.

Again... people are hoping this is not the case. There is valid concern though that should be shared by everyone. Hopefully it is a confidence trigger caused by the injury.

If i remember correctly, his sources are in ESPN.

I've never said publically where my sources come from. Sorry. The only person that I've told is Tastic.

[Kerrsed]

My bad sorry, i thought thats what i heard.

[GoSunsGo]

thanks Kerrsed.

[DBrimstone]

If what Traxxe said about Amare is true (which i hope isnt as I am a huge Amare fan) i say let Amare opt out, or trade him by the All-Star game. We should throw some cash towards Rudy Gay. JJRedick is also a FA in 2010, and i could see him excelling in our offense. He would be good coming off the bench if we lose JRICH or Barbosa.

Here is a list of 2010 FA.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-09-10

Kerr would crap his diaper if he could get Rudy Gay. I think it'd be a good signing. If Amare does end up walking we'd have quite a bit of money lieing around just waiting to be spent on winning! If he and Frye both opt out, we'd be at about 43-44 mil... http://hoopshype.com/salaries/phoenix.htm ... We'd have to resign Lou and Frye, which we would. I'm guessing that's about 6-8 mil on them... which leaves us either a max contract player (which won't happen) or a Rudy Gay or David Lee priced player to put us up to around 56-57 mil a year, which our FO might stomache... Or just get both of em for 12 mil, put us up to 67 mil, and pwn... What other players are there really besides them and possibly Redick that we'd really want? Scola and Boozer can rebound and score pretty well but they're not gonna keep up and Boozer is fragile and defensively handicapped... Any ideas?

"just keep Amare"

yeah that one's not bad either. But ya never know

[sd1306]

Rudy Gay is a volume scorer, an inefficient one at that. We want NOTHING to do with him. However, all this Amar'e talk needs to chill. He's playing fiercely with all he has, and it looks like he may get back his explosiveness in about 10 games, give the guy time. I agree though, that if he does become what he was or better, which I'm confident he will, that he will walk away from the 17million, and get a max deal elsewhere. Chicago, Miami, or New Jersey will gladly pay max amount for a player his caliber, or he might choose to go the complete money way and go with New York, so if we don't offer him a max deal, he's not staying here, plain and simple.