We need an Alpha Dog!

[Mylie10]

Would love for Monta to become an Alpha Dog type of number one guy, but he's a solid number 2.

Jackson is a good number 3 guy or maybe even a number 4. He's great at doing what the Alpha Dog tells him to do.

Baron was our only Alpha Dog in quite some time. Right or wrong Baron had these guys following him and he was the guy who helped make Monta so good in 07.

Randolph may be that guy in the future, but for now the Warriors don't have that guy that can lead or be looked to as "The Guy".

Could Curry become that guy? Maybe but it's gonna take a long time until he could effectively manage his temamates and gain that kind of status. Chances are he's not the Alpha Dog type, but merely a good number 2 or 3 guy.

It's extemely tough to bring in this type of guy. Trading for one is so difficult. But in order to play with the big boys of the NBA you have to have those no fear types that want the ball in their hands when it counts and they come through time and time again.

It's gonna be a long road while we wait to see if Randolph can become that type of player in the next couple of years. I think that as long as he's healthy he shouyldn't be dicked around to much with constant role reversals. Stick him in his spot and leave him alone.

There's no reason to be shifting him around. He needs to play and play alot. for the long term success and not the short term, he's got to be the "Man" being groomed.

Nellie just leave him in there and coach him. You don't have to sit him down to get through to him.

[The Hack]

Good post...totally agree

Our main problem is who would EVER sign here to be our Alpha Dog?? We had our best chance to get anyone after the 48 win smoke-screen season. Once we got rid of Baron, we had no chance to attract any top flight free agents...as long as Nellie is here with his senile coaching "schemes" we are doomed. I think the first step in attracting anyone to come here would be to hire the most high-profile coach available after Nellie retires/quits/dies from alcohol poisoning. Letting Keith Smart or someone like that take over would be the worst possible move

[floppymoose]

Actually, the Baron opt out was what gave us our chance to get an FA. Otherwise we would not have had the cap room.

We offered gimp Brand the max.

We offered gimp Gilbert the max.

They both said no.

Then we bribed Maggette to sign here instead of with the Spurs. Between the ownership, the reputation, and the CA income tax, you are not getting FAs to sign here unless they are of the Maggette variety: ones other teams are smart enough not to make similar offers to.

That's reason number 75 why Nellie is right about "building through the draft".

[Sid the Squid]

winning teams that drafted their current prime time alpha dog = lakers, cavs, magic, heat, mavs, jazz, hornets, nuggets, rockets, blazers

winning teams that traded for a prime time alpha dog = nuggets, celtics

winning teams that signed their prime time alpha dog through free agency = suns


so why are we even concerned about not being able to sign a prime time alpha dog free agent?

[Chris Cohan]

Actually, the Baron opt out was what gave us our chance to get an FA. Otherwise we would not have had the cap room.

We offered gimp Brand the max.

We offered gimp Gilbert the max.

They both said no.

Then we bribed Maggette to sign here instead of with the Spurs. Between the ownership, the reputation, and the CA income tax, you are not getting FAs to sign here unless they are of the Maggette variety: ones other teams are smart enough not to make similar offers to.

That's reason number 75 why Nellie is right about "building through the draft".

Arenas would have been worth the wait. Curry will never come close to Arenas.
I know the story of the Arenas Rule but Cohan screwed that up more than rules.

[Coxy]

Blow it all up for CP3. He's unhappy, alpha dog hungry too. Keep Randolph and Morrow then send them whatever they want, including the Golden Gate Bridge.

[old rem]

With an irrational coach + system and a roster of virtual strangers....Chris Paul would be no big deal.
the Hornets getting everything we have except last year's rookies would,I assume,send us back their awful bench crap as cap fill.....so we'd be very screwed

Alpha Dog..Superstar,Famous Celebrity...whatever. getting the "STAR" inevitably means you overpay one way or another. Finding the FUTURE star...that works. Often a guy gets touted as a star mostly off the work of a good TEAM. Sometimes it's just a matter of which way the winds of hype are blowing.

Yeah...Arenas is..or was..damn good. Basically Monta but scored more....at twice the $. Are we looking for scorers now? As we give away scorers (as we usually do eventually). Mostly when we HAVE anything like an Alpha Dog...we give them a big contract and before the ink dries we panic and trade them for NOTHING. The others just become 'chemistry problems" due to those Alpha Dog ego trips. Jackson, Baron,J Rich,Jamison, Sprewell, Tim Hardaway, Mullin, Webber,Sleepy Floyd,Bernard King.....most of those had some Alpha Dog, many were our top scorer,most we traded for JUNK or they simply escaped. With Webber at least we got back about what we paid to trade up and get him.

Chasing celebrities usually is just a delusion. You create a good efficient RATIONAL team,you get leadership that CAN see talent and can and will nurture it. You do NONE of what this pathetic franchise has done typically, and instead think about how Bill Walsh would do it,how Red Auerbach did it. Bill Walsh generally did not go out and overpay for one 'famous Star"...he built them from the ground up. Red Auerbach had players who played their whole career as Celtics. Both would sweat the details. Both created a culture,the Niner's way, the Celtics way.

Look at College football. Not that long ago, Virginia Tech and Boise State were not anything,were small time. U Cincinnati? Having a better football team than Ohio State? Not only did that never happen before but it hardly seemed POSSIBLE. Boise...better than UCLA or Nebraska or Notre Dame? Also...impossible. So, how's it happen? SOMEONE built a program from the ground up and made the most of every opportunity. The "Usual Powers" get the Blue Chips without having to try hard. Boise and Cincinnati can't get a handful of blue Chips, they have to look harder and find the sleepers. GSW...ironically..has recently done well finding sleepers but has been bungling a lot of other things. I have a hunch Mullin had a vision and an eye for talent. He got to be the scapegoat.
Nellie does his act,yet he's lazy with the details and does not have a system that's efficient,though,he's got SOME very good ideas.

[gking]

Yeah, alpha dogs are hard to come by. Jackson may think he's an alpha dog, but he's not (too emotionally unstable and destructive to the team). Baron was probably as close to an alpha dog as we've had for a long time. It's a trait we should certainly be focusing on in future drafts. So who would make for a good alpha dog in the upcoming draft? I know it's super early to be talking about the draft, but in Warrior land it seems it's never too early. So far it looks like we really suck balls this season and may very well end up with a top 5 pick. Time to start scouting for alpha dogs.

[old rem]

I'm not sure if Alpha Dog means extrovert "I'm The Boss Of You" stuff or might mean a guy who just plays the game right, is efficient,productive,leads by example if not words. In that sense, there's Alpha in Monta and Biedrins,and I expect it will be there in several others.

Some years ago I had a dog named Ben. One afternoon Ben and me were down at the road and here comes a Pit Bull all full of "Alpha Dog" attitude,as he gets closer he's growling and looks ready for battle. Ben seems indifferent,then when the Pit is about 20 ft away, Ben, a rather burly black Great Dane lets out one bark as loud as a howitzer and takes a 10 ft leap at the stunned Pit Bull....and just watches the Pit Bull run away crying in panic. Ben wasn't gonna bother chasing it down. He knew that pit would never come that way again. A real Alpha dog does not need to say much.

[toffee1]

Our alpha dog = Don Nelson.
His little bitch = Rowell

[cladden]

A real Alpha dog does not need to say much.