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Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby klomp44 on Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:35 am

http://www.twincities.com/timberwolves/ ... ck_check=1

OK, so not the most positive look at the trade. However, towards the end when looking towards free agency, this quote caught my attention.

"Guys around the league joke about cities they don't like to play in, and Minneapolis is not on that list," Legler said. "It's a great place to play. The franchise just has to show some growth so guys know what direction the team is heading. You have to show that somebody is making the right personnel decisions."
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby Calinks on Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:53 am

klomp44 wrote:http://www.twincities.com/timberwolves/ci_13707600?nclick_check=1

OK, so not the most positive look at the trade. However, towards the end when looking towards free agency, this quote caught my attention.

"Guys around the league joke about cities they don't like to play in, and Minneapolis is not on that list," Legler said. "It's a great place to play. The franchise just has to show some growth so guys know what direction the team is heading. You have to show that somebody is making the right personnel decisions."



Then who is?
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby klomp44 on Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:05 am

Seattle???

I'd probably say Memphis, Sacramento, OKC, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Utah, or Toronto...
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby jade_hippo on Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:15 am

Salt Lake, Sacto, and OKC are probably the worst, Portland isn't great either I don't think. Toronto is a blast of a city, its like NYC but the people are nice; very diverse place. I think Toronto gets a bad rap because its across the border.
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby Worm Guts on Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:28 am

I wouldn't guess Portland, definitely Milwaukee though.
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby shrink on Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:54 am

jade_hippo wrote:Salt Lake, Sacto, and OKC are probably the worst, Portland isn't great either I don't think. Toronto is a blast of a city, its like NYC but the people are nice; very diverse place. I think Toronto gets a bad rap because its across the border.


I've heard TOR gets mentioned because of the taxes.
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby shrink on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:14 am

Regarding the article, this guy doesn't have a clue. Check this out:

Ray Richardson wrote: Garnett was 31 when Wolves owner Glen Taylor gave then-vice president Kevin McHale permission to make the trade with the Celtics. Taylor was paying Garnett $26 million in his final season with the Wolves, a salary that contributed to the Wolves' inability to bring quality help for Garnett in free agency. To improve the team, Taylor and McHale believed they had to make a trade many thought never would be made.

The issue for Wolves fans is what the club got in return. Of the five players who came from the Celtics, only Jefferson and Ryan Gomes are still with the team. One of the five, guard Gerald Green, was traded to Houston before finishing his first season with the Wolves and is now out of the league. Guard Sebastian Telfair was traded to the Los Angeles Clippers in the summer, and forward-center Theo Ratliff was waived in the middle of the 2007-08 season.


I actually emailed this guy because he either doesn't understand how finances affect the NBA, or he is deliberately trying to spin this towards his opinion.
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby Gant on Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:13 am

Did the article mention the draft choices?
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby cpfsf on Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:10 pm

06-07 MIN 76 Games 39.4 MPG 12.8 RPG 4.1APG 1.2 SPG 1.7 BPG 22.4 PPG
07-08 BOS 71 Games 32.8 MPG 9.2 RPG 3.4 APG 1.4 SPG 1.2 BPG 18.8 PPG
08-09 BOS 57 Games 31.1 MPG 8.5 RPG 2.5 APG 1.1 SPG 1.2 BPG 15.8 PPG
09-10 BOS 5 Games 28.0 MPG 6.8 RPG 2.2 APG 0.6 SPG 1.4 BPG 11.2 PPG

Gant wrote:Did the article mention the draft choices?


Love or Flynn, who was our returned pick from Boston?
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby john2jer on Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:15 pm

klomp44 wrote:http://www.twincities.com/timberwolves/ci_13707600?nclick_check=1

OK, so not the most positive look at the trade. However, towards the end when looking towards free agency, this quote caught my attention.

"Guys around the league joke about cities they don't like to play in, and Minneapolis is not on that list," Legler said. "It's a great place to play. The franchise just has to show some growth so guys know what direction the team is heading. You have to show that somebody is making the right personnel decisions."


Love that quote, I might have to sig that.
Tim Legler wrote:Guys around the league joke about cities they don't like to play in, and Minneapolis is not on that list. It's a great place to play. The franchise just has to show some growth so guys know what direction the team is heading
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby john2jer on Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:17 pm

cpfsf wrote:06-07 MIN 76 Games 39.4 MPG 12.8 RPG 4.1APG 1.2 SPG 1.7 BPG 22.4 PPG
07-08 BOS 71 Games 32.8 MPG 9.2 RPG 3.4 APG 1.4 SPG 1.2 BPG 18.8 PPG
08-09 BOS 57 Games 31.1 MPG 8.5 RPG 2.5 APG 1.1 SPG 1.2 BPG 15.8 PPG
09-10 BOS 5 Games 28.0 MPG 6.8 RPG 2.2 APG 0.6 SPG 1.4 BPG 11.2 PPG

Gant wrote:Did the article mention the draft choices?


Love or Flynn, who was our returned pick from Boston?


Neither. Seems like everyone's failing on that. the pick we owed to Boston was to be given 2 years AFTER we gave our pick to the Clippers, and if it wasn't by 2012, it became a 2012 2nd round pick. Some joker commented on the article with faulty information as well.

So in actuality what we got back from the Celtics was a 2nd round pick unless we somehow give up our 1st to the Clippers this year, which likely won't happen.
Tim Legler wrote:Guys around the league joke about cities they don't like to play in, and Minneapolis is not on that list. It's a great place to play. The franchise just has to show some growth so guys know what direction the team is heading
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby Gant on Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:19 pm

The Wolves got their own pick back (I think it was Flynn), and the Celtics first rounder last season.
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby john2jer on Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:26 pm

Gant wrote:The Wolves got their own pick back (I think it was Flynn), and the Celtics first rounder last season.


Wrong. Please see above where I explained what pick we got back. It wasn't Flynn. We haven't even gotten to the draft yet that we owed them the pick.
Tim Legler wrote:Guys around the league joke about cities they don't like to play in, and Minneapolis is not on that list. It's a great place to play. The franchise just has to show some growth so guys know what direction the team is heading
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby Esohny on Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:30 pm

Ellington is the first of the picks that we got (looking like a solid addition IMHO).
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Re: Pioneer Press: Revisiting the KG Trade

Postby Gant on Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:34 pm

john2jer wrote:
Gant wrote:The Wolves got their own pick back (I think it was Flynn), and the Celtics first rounder last season.


Wrong. Please see above where I explained what pick we got back. It wasn't Flynn. We haven't even gotten to the draft yet that we owed them the pick.



I see. You're right, that would have turned into a second rounder.
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