is shawn marion erik dampier?

[thaAteam]

through these 1st 5 games, our turnovers have been ridiculous, i think that why we cant truely get into an offensive grove. has anyone else noticed how shawn marion misses so many point blank layup and has a hard time holding onto the ball. a lot of raps fans had been sayin how many layups he missed but good lord? we need a starting caliber two guard on this team bad.

[dirkules_41]

We have one... soon to return from injury...

[thaAteam]

We have one... soon to return from injury...

im past the idea of depending on josh howard

[the_real_Cstein]

you're right, shawn has to be more consistent. those layups and floaters hes been missing are in my opinion due to "rushed aggression," a result of either being rusty, playing with an injury or being out of shape. I think shawn can and will be better throughout the season.

I also think the chemistry between kidd and shawn could be better. one of the fast breaks yesterday had shawn running the lane but he had no space, kidd gives him the ball anyways and bam.. offensive foul. he had no options. Those two guys are giving us a ton of intangibles and defensive playmaking every night but there is no doubt that individually, the two of them as offensive playmakers, are less than a full circuit. we're desperately missing that playmaker we need and jj is never going to be it. common roddy, show coach he can trust you!

[mavfan12]

We have one... soon to return from injury...

im past the idea of depending on josh howard

Say what you want but Josh is top 15 possibly top 10 at his position, and the nice thing is on a team with Dirk, JET, Marion, and Kidd we don't have to depend on him. Also Beaubois looked good in the limited minutes he got against NO, so I'm not all that worried about the SG spot.


Marion's fumbles around the basket last game were pretty disappointing though.

[BLKMN22]

I see no point to rush Howard back. He needs to be 100% before his return. The Mavs need a healthy, injury free Howard. I am hoping Marion is just still getting used to the Mavs and will become much better as the season rolls on.

[mavfan12]

I see no point to rush Howard back. He needs to be 100% before his return. The Mavs need a healthy, injury free Howard. I am hoping Marion is just still getting used to the Mavs and will become much better as the season rolls on.

I'd agree with that, we're already ahead of last year's pace, (not saying much) and if anything more time to rest should open up some minutes for Beaubois. I really hope we stop giving Ross starts.

[BLKMN22]

I see no point to rush Howard back. He needs to be 100% before his return. The Mavs need a healthy, injury free Howard. I am hoping Marion is just still getting used to the Mavs and will become much better as the season rolls on.

I'd agree with that, we're already ahead of last year's pace, (not saying much) and if anything more time to rest should open up some minutes for Beaubois. I really hope we stop giving Ross starts.

Same here. I much rather get Beaubois the starts at SG until the return of Howard. I think Ross is more valuable in defensive spot use against certain players rather than the starter. Beaubois showed he can provide the 1st quarter offense the Mavs are desperately missing in Howard's absence.

[Chpwags]

I am a Raptor fan and the Miami heat fans told us the same thing about Marion when he got traded to the Raptors. He is going to miss some point blank layups that should be gimmies but he will also make so floaters that he has no business making so things kind of even out. I haven't seen Marion or Dallas play this year but watching Marion play last year he always seemed so twitchy around the basket. Even when he is being interviewed he seems to have a hard time time standing still and is really twitchy with his movements. I think that has a lot to do with why he misses some of those easy layups.

[catalyst]

I am a Raptor fan and the Miami heat fans told us the same thing about Marion when he got traded to the Raptors. He is going to miss some point blank layups that should be gimmies but he will also make so floaters that he has no business making so things kind of even out. I haven't seen Marion or Dallas play this year but watching Marion play last year he always seemed so twitchy around the basket. Even when he is being interviewed he seems to have a hard time time standing still and is really twitchy with his movements. I think that has a lot to do with why he misses some of those easy layups.

Good term Twitchy. Very descriptive of his shot and demeanor.

[Teffer10]

Marion is a "quick leaper" like Rodman and Singleton so it doesn't surprise me that he has a "twitch" to his game. I've always considered guys like Barkley and Bass as "power leapers" who take longer to get off the ground (basically gather themselves, square up, and power up from their heels).
I've noticed that Marion will occassionally release the ball before he is fully elevated in the paint and that can have an impact on accuracy. He also releases his shots lower than other players so he is probably trying to rush the shot before defenders have an opportunity to react.

Just some observations on the fundamentals of his game and shooting technique.

[Teffer10]

you're right, shawn has to be more consistent. those layups and floaters hes been missing are in my opinion due to "rushed aggression," a result of either being rusty, playing with an injury or being out of shape. I think shawn can and will be better throughout the season.

I also think the chemistry between kidd and shawn could be better. one of the fast breaks yesterday had shawn running the lane but he had no space, kidd gives him the ball anyways and bam.. offensive foul. he had no options. Those two guys are giving us a ton of intangibles and defensive playmaking every night but there is no doubt that individually, the two of them as offensive playmakers, are less than a full circuit. we're desperately missing that playmaker we need and jj is never going to be it. common roddy, show coach he can trust you!

Carlisle is a good coach but one thing that bothers me is how he will pull a player while he is playing well. I didn't understand why he pulled Roddy so early in the NO game. Carlisle seems to be so caught up in the system that he doesn't necessarily understand what is going on. Its like Terry is coming in at a certain point no matter what. I noticed that a lot last season...even yanking core players while they were in a hot streak or playing well.

[BLKMN22]

you're right, shawn has to be more consistent. those layups and floaters hes been missing are in my opinion due to "rushed aggression," a result of either being rusty, playing with an injury or being out of shape. I think shawn can and will be better throughout the season.

I also think the chemistry between kidd and shawn could be better. one of the fast breaks yesterday had shawn running the lane but he had no space, kidd gives him the ball anyways and bam.. offensive foul. he had no options. Those two guys are giving us a ton of intangibles and defensive playmaking every night but there is no doubt that individually, the two of them as offensive playmakers, are less than a full circuit. we're desperately missing that playmaker we need and jj is never going to be it. common roddy, show coach he can trust you!

Carlisle is a good coach but one thing that bothers me is how he will pull a player while he is playing well. I didn't understand why he pulled Roddy so early in the NO game. Carlisle seems to be so caught up in the system that he doesn't necessarily understand what is going on. Its like Terry is coming in at a certain point no matter what. I noticed that a lot last season...even yanking core players while they were in a hot streak or playing well.

That is so true. It is so frustrating to see the player with the hot hand being pulled. You have to ride the hot hand even if that changes your rotation some. This is not pee wee basketball where you have to make sure everyone gets their proper time so the parents don't get upset. You don't pull Beaubois in the middle of a hot streak when he is the ONLY offense in the game. You keep him in until he cools down and then make your substitution.