my theory on 2010 free agency

[RawLewD12]

yes, i know this sounds ridiculous but i think we are going to be major players next summer. here are the reasons.

there's the definite free agents whose contracts expire after this season:
Joe Johnson

then you have the opt-out clause FA's:
Yao Ming (owed 17.7 million in 10/11)
Amare Stoudamire (owed 17.7 million in 10/11)
LeBron James (owed 17.2 million in 10/11)
Dwayne Wade (owed 17.0 million in 10/11)
Chris Bosh (owed 17.1 million in 10/11)
Dirk Nowitzki (owed $21.5 million in 10/11)
Josh Howard (owed $11.8 million in 10/11)
Mike Redd (owed $18.3 million in 10/11)

these are FA's that i think would be a sure thing ring in orlando

now hear me out. yao isnt opting out, and neither is redd, probably not josh howard either. so that leaves lebron, bosh, wade, dirk, and amare who will all most likely opt out, along with FA joe johnson.

the most likely player for us IMO: amare

why? born and raised in orlando, would get a chance at a ring being one of the key guys. would be an all star, AND we are opening a new arena, best in the league.

after amare i think johnson would be the most feasible because he's not a lebron type FA. there has also been reports that we are apparently interested in johnson and wade.

obviously we can sign these guys outright, BUT we do have assets:

gortat
redick (who is having a great year thus far and his trade value is higher than ever)
pietrus (good all around player)
bass

with those players i think we will be able to hook one of those FA's through sign and trade.

hope im right

[DrunkOnMystery]

No combination of 4 backups will land Amare, Joe Johnson, or whatever other allstar caliber FA delusional people seem to think it will.

Yes, I'm aware that Gortat could probably start on about 10 teams. It's largely irrelevant.

We can't land any of those players without help from the players' current teams, and no team is going to be anxious to help Orlando, particularly for our backups.

You think Miami would give Wade to a division rival for a package built around Marcin Gortat and Pietrus? Really? You think Atlanta would S&T Joe Johnson to us when it would clearly, in effect, cost them any hope of contending for the next 5 years?

And a serious laugh goes to any consideration of Redick as a major trade asset towards a prime FA after 5 games. 2 months ago, he couldn't even work as an asset to bring in CJ Watson, who has played a TOTAL of 3 minutes this season, but now he can help bring in Amare?

[_Flight_]

ditto.

[magicfanejc42]

A trade to bring in an Amare or Johnson would 100% include Vince. BUT, the wonderful thing about that is that he'd be on the last year of his contract. So, we would be able to pick up a MASSIVE player, especially if we send vince+Marcin. We'd still get to keep out depth by NOT trading Bass,Anderson,Pietrus, etc. Not to mention yes, we would still have a TPE..(9mil or what ever it is) That could get us a serious SF.

Vince+Gortat for Wade or Johnson would be ideal

Though Otis has set us up well, I think that even if we make the finals, and just re-sign Barnes, and get a decent PG in the draft we could and probably would still be the strongest team in the league.

[magicfanejc42]

No combination of 4 backups will land Amare, Joe Johnson, or whatever other allstar caliber FA delusional people seem to think it will.

Yes, I'm aware that Gortat could probably start on about 10 teams. It's largely irrelevant.

We can't land any of those players without help from the players' current teams, and no team is going to be anxious to help Orlando, particularly for our backups.

You think Miami would give Wade to a division rival for a package built around Marcin Gortat and Pietrus? Really? You think Atlanta would S&T Joe Johnson to us when it would clearly, in effect, cost them any hope of contending for the next 5 years?

And a serious laugh goes to any consideration of Redick as a major trade asset towards a prime FA after 5 games. 2 months ago, he couldn't even work as an asset to bring in CJ Watson, who has played a TOTAL of 3 minutes this season, but now he can help bring in Amare?

I do agree with you. But don't forget Watson's coming off a knee injury.

[magicfan84]

I love the idea for a JJ for vince type deal I do not want amare on this team at all, he is a baby who cares nothing more than his personal stats, I just dont see him taking a back seat to Dwight, I mean look at the way he acted with an over the hill shaq getting touches. I think Joe Johnson would mesh very well as he can handle tha ball as well if not better than turk could and shoots lights out, although there are alot of miles on him. Wade would be nice as well but it gets back to health and mileage if he will break down in the next 2-3 seasons would you want to put that much cash out there? I dont think any of the better EC teams are going to helo us in any way get better as stated above. Our best bet is something out of the east and with dwight we dont need a premier pf unless his name is Chris Bosh. Lets let this season play out and then let the speculation begin.

[RawLewD12]

i was sitting here thinking you are right, BUT i forgot to include VC in any of those deals, and though it would suck to see him go, if it improved our team with the likes of wade, bosh, or johnson i'd be all for it

[AGENTSTEVO]

i think the only acquistion we will make next year is signing CJ Watson. He wants to be here and we want him here. I love JWill and AJ, but we need a young pg to grow behind Jameer. We really don't need anything else. We already have 4 allstars in our starting 5 with Dwight, Rashard, Vince, and Jameer. Then we have a bench that could start on other teams. We can beat anybody and we probably couldn't afford any of the top free agents anyway.

[bluesteelmagic]

only moves ide liek to see made by us next off season is picking up CjWatson and possibly signing joe alexander if barnes or Redick decide not to resign with us

i believe roger mason is also a FA next year and i wouldnt mind otis trying to sign him as well

[Chris_ORL]

To the people saying that getting a Wade or Bosh type of talent is impossible, I say we have more tools to insure we could get one than anybody else.

1. If you're a top-shelf FA you want the MAX-MAX, 7 Year, full cap hit deal. Not the lesser max deal you'd get by walking away. You only get that with a trade, and with so many teams with the cap to sign people outright a team in a position to lose somebody for nothing MIGHT be willing to take good players and a pick rather than let a star walk for nothing.

2. We have expiring assets with value (vince and more), and young pieces that are up and coming.

3. We have a trade exception that would allow us to take more salary if we have to.

4. Though not of great value because we're a good team, we do have draft picks.


Now, do I think it will happen? Probably not because of the tax.

Should we? I'd say only Wade, Bron (not happening), or Bosh would really be worth it.

[Devin 1L]

To the people saying that getting a Wade or Bosh type of talent is impossible, I say we have more tools to insure we could get one than anybody else.

1. If you're a top-shelf FA you want the MAX-MAX, 7 Year, full cap hit deal. Not the lesser max deal you'd get by walking away. You only get that with a trade, and with so many teams with the cap to sign people outright a team in a position to lose somebody for nothing MIGHT be willing to take good players and a pick rather than let a star walk for nothing.

2. We have expiring assets with value (vince and more), and young pieces that are up and coming.

3. We have a trade exception that would allow us to take more salary if we have to.

4. Though not of great value because we're a good team, we do have draft picks.


Now, do I think it will happen? Probably not because of the tax.

Should we? I'd say only Wade, Bron (not happening), or Bosh would really be worth it.

6 years.

But I agree, we're not getting one of those guys. We can all dream though!

[D12VCMagic]

The Magic may be able to lure in someone to take the MLE to try and win a ring (see: Artest), but none of those stars will be coming here unless they absolutely want to be in Orlando and nowhere else and force a S&T. Which the chances of that are as good as the chances of me sleeping with Megan Fox.

[MagicFan32]

We don't need black hole 32, we're fine at PF for a long time, the only place long term we should upgrade is on the wing, Leb ron is the only guy i'd trade our excess depth to get but would cleveland really do it? doubtful

[mers15]

If there is any big name superstar to work out with D12, it'd be Lebron or Dwyane, but your odds of winning the lottery are better than having one of these guys play along Dwight.

[drsd]

i think the only acquistion we will make next year is signing CJ Watson. He wants to be here and we want him here. I love JWill and AJ, but we need a young pg to grow behind Jameer. We really don't need anything else. We already have 4 allstars in our starting 5 with Dwight, Rashard, Vince, and Jameer. Then we have a bench that could start on other teams. We can beat anybody and we probably couldn't afford any of the top free agents anyway.

The Magic will need PG depth, and new back up and 3rd string C. And the wing position is good but not stable. Plus, the team is starting to need a rookie presence. I would guess that 1/3 of the team will be different next year.