Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

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Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Frank Mulely on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:46 pm

Maybe Nellie should take notes?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/11/06/countdown/1.html

A Western scout on the Rockets' success -- they've beaten Portland and Utah and lost in OT to the Lakers -- without Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest:
"It's a lot like how they won those 22 games in a row (two years ago): it's by committee. They've got Aaron Brooks as their main guy to scramble the defense up, and after that if you're open then you shoot it, and if not then you make the next pass with everyone sharing the ball. What a concept!

"The thing that's amazing is they don't have any inside force, and it's not like they're super quick where they can run you. One thing Rick Adelman has usually done is to stick with a rotation of eight or nine guys, even if they're in shooting slumps. So if you're one of those guys and you know he's going to stick with you even if your shots aren't falling, you're not going to stress over getting your numbers or getting your touches before you get yanked out of the game -- because he isn't going to yank you for that. So there isn't that kind of tension for each player 'to get mine' at the expense of the team.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Sid the Squid on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:48 pm

Did you mean Franklin Meuli ?
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Frank Mulely on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:54 pm

Sid the Squid wrote:Did you mean Franklin Meuli ?


yeah but I'm more mule-ly and I'm frank.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Sid the Squid on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:57 pm

I think good team's can have a set rotation..Aldeman's warriors changed lineup's all the time..

this rocket team is playing over their head right now, and when they realize they're not talented, the whole house of cards will come crashing down. When Yao is back in the lineup in 2010-11, Aldeman will look like a great coach once again..

2009-10 Rockets will fall apart..Mark it down and BOOK IT DANO!!
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Chris Cohan on Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:00 pm

Sid swings and misses again.
Good to know he actually believes the hype, though.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Coxy on Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:12 pm

Rick Adelman is by far the coach of the year right now and it aint even close.

Nellie currently ranking last in the same category.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Frank Mulely on Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:12 pm

Sid the Squid wrote:I think good team's can have a set rotation..Aldeman's warriors changed lineup's all the time..

this rocket team is playing over their head right now, and when they realize they're not talented, the whole house of cards will come crashing down. When Yao is back in the lineup in 2010-11, Aldeman will look like a great coach once again..

2009-10 Rockets will fall apart..Mark it down and BOOK IT DANO!!


Sid, the Rockets roster is not a "good team" they lost 3 all star players. They're playing over their heads...because they HAVE GOOD COACHING.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Sid the Squid on Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:32 pm

Coaching in the NBA is completely overrated....The GM has done a nice job of bringing in team players to surround Yao (the ultimate teammate)
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Chris Cohan on Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:50 pm

Nerd Elvis and Adelman hold the cards.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby turk3d on Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:53 pm

Sid the Squid wrote:Coaching in the NBA is completely overrated....The GM has done a nice job of bringing in team players to surround Yao (the ultimate teammate)

Completely underrated by you yet you continually laud the greatness of Nellie. If coaches don't matter then why don't we just dump his tired old ass?
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby floppymoose on Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:56 pm

Because he's also doing our drafting and is doing a good job there? I think Sid was only referring to in-game coaching.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby turk3d on Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:59 pm

Are you sure about that? How much of that was due to Mullin? The only thing you could say he's done for our draft is keeping us perpetual losers enabling us to get more lottery picks, yet still not good enough to land us the overall #1. I think Monty could have done that for us (get us high picks year after years). Add to that, all these wonderful picks and then look at how much they get used and how much it helps us improve our won-lost. Not a pretty sight.

It's the in-game coaching which has most impact on the W-L. That's what I think is most important. Tanking doesn't count.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby floppymoose on Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:02 pm

If we start with the assumption that anything good that happened was Mullin, and anything bad was Nellie, then I guess the conclusion is pretty much determined.
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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby Chris Cohan on Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:05 pm

The old line was, Mullin hadn't done anything good and everyone ranted about a few bad early signings and attributed the playoff run to Nellie, even though Nellie quit months earlier.

So sure, tell me all about how Jackson and Maggette are just Rowell's early oat-feel mistakes on the way to consistent high level ball and multiple rings.

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Re: Rick Adelman's substitution strategy

Postby turk3d on Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:12 pm

floppymoose wrote:If we start with the assumption that anything good that happened was Mullin, and anything bad was Nellie, then I guess the conclusion is pretty much determined.

Not saying that, just saying that it's hard to give all the credit to Nellie, since other than the Curry pick Mullin was the GM. Actually, maybe we should give the credit for Curry to Riley, lol.

Pretty tough one to determine. I do know that if we make the assumption that Curry was Nellie's pick and he's immediately turned him into a starter, and all the Mullin picks were not played very much their first (and in some cases) their second years, plus the pick that Mullin traded a #1 pick for (yeah, I know you hate him), then I think that it might be reasonable to conclude that Mullin was most responsible for those other picks (I think it's pretty clear that Nellie wanted to trade Randolph last year and still might want to as far as we know) especially since the word was that Nellie wouldn't trade Curry to get Amare (his pick). U think that although not certain, this is a fairly logical scenario (all hating aside),
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