Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

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Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby supersub15 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:59 am

Pace: 87.0
Defensive Efficiency: 103.4
Offensive Efficiency: 123.0

Pace was slow as molasses, but the Raptors still found a way to drop 107 points, thanks to their amazing offence. They were finally able to play some defence with a very decent 103.4 DRtg.

4 factors of success:
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                  eFG%   FT Rate   OReb%   TOV%
    New Orleans   0.520   0.160    0.211   0.126
    Toronto       0.597   0.195    0.257   0.161


We won 3 battles convincingly (especially the shooting).

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                            Toronto   New Orleans
    Fast break points:         6           7
    Points in the paint:      36          42
    Points off turnovers:     27           7


Not a lot of positives on the this front, especially the points off turnovers.

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Cumulative Stats:
Pace: 92.0 (18th)
Defensive Efficiency: 113.0 (27th)
Offensive Efficiency: 117.6 (2nd)

4 factors:
eFG% (offence): 0.531 (4th)
eFG% (defence): 0.498 (21st)

FT% (offence): 0.326 (2nd)
FT% (defence): 0.289 (26th)

OReb% (offence): 0.270 (10th)
OReb% (defence): 0.296 (27th)

TOV% (offence): 0.113 (1st)
TOV% (defence): 0.124 (23rd)

We've moved up to second-best offence in the league, and improved our defence to a still mediocre 27th. It's a start.

Miscellaneous Stats:

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            Fastbreak    Paint Pts    Pts off TOs
            For   Agst   For   Agst   For   Agst
Cleveland   12     9     38     32    13     22
Memphis      6    15     52     52    22     18
Orlando      5    14     38     28    15     18
Detroit      9     9     34     38    17      9
New Orleans  6     7     36     42    27      7
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Average     7.6  10.6   39.6   38.4  18.8   14.8


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Next Opponent: Dallas
Pace: 91.7
DRtg: 99.3 (6th)
ORtg: 102.8 (21st)

Team Four Factors
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             Team                    Opp
eFG%    .453 (25th of 30)    .477 (13th of 30)
TOV%    .137 (12th of 30)    .149 (12th of 30)
ORB%    .277 (9th of 30)     .243 (9th of 30)
FT%     .272 (6th of 30)     .169 (2nd of 30)
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby KG1585 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:07 am

Our offence is so sexy.
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby supersub15 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:46 am

Daily Eastern Conference Power Ranking (using SRS):

1. Boston Celtics
2. Orlando Magic
4. Miami Heat
7. Cleveland Cavaliers
9. Toronto Raptors
12. Milwaukee Bucks
14. Detroit Pistons
15. Chicago Bulls
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17. Atlanta Hawks
19. Indiana Pacers
21. Washington Wizards
22. Philadelphia 76ers
23. Charlotte Bobcats
26. New York Knickerbockers
30. New Jersey
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby D-Wins-RingsIMO on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:57 am

how the heck are we getting all these O-rebs? It's awesome, considering OReb was really a REggie specialty skill.

Incremental improvement from Bosh & Bargs over last year.

Rasho & Amir getting on the glass very well in limited mins

Demar with 1.4 oreb/g in 20 mpg :o ..... huge gain over what AP was getting us*

I know it's way way early to make proclamations on Demar but I'm crossing my fingers that we've got an all-around player here. He's holding almost a league average PER as a rook without any real offensive looks.

* Part of this might be that DD has the freedom to crash since obv Hedo isn't .... whereas last year our SF's Moon/Marion would sniff around the glass so AP was usually backpedalling on D.
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby KG1585 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:01 am

supersub15 wrote:Daily Eastern Conference Power Ranking (using SRS):

1. Boston Celtics
2. Orlando Magic
4. Miami Heat
7. Cleveland Cavaliers
9. Toronto Raptors
12. Milwaukee Bucks
14. Detroit Pistons
15. Chicago Bulls
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17. Atlanta Hawks
19. Indiana Pacers
21. Washington Wizards
22. Philadelphia 76ers
23. Charlotte Bobcats
26. New York Knickerbockers
30. New Jersey


I am really surprised about the Heat, although they have played only two good teams so far, losing 1 from the 2.
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby Guy Smiley on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:04 am

Am I the only one who misses Sam Mitchell's coaching repertoire? The complexity of his offensive and defensive sets are sorely lacking not to mention his ability to develop talent like Andrea.
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby youngLion on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:14 am

Thanks for the numbers SS. For the statistical laymen among us, could you explain how Drtg and SRS are calculated?
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby supersub15 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:25 am

youngLion wrote:Thanks for the numbers SS. For the statistical laymen among us, could you explain how Drtg and SRS are calculated?


DRtg is basically the number of points allowed per 100 posessions. You can calculate the number of possessions using this formula:
0.5 * ((Tm FGA + 0.4 * Tm FTA - 1.07 * (Tm ORB / (Tm ORB + Opp DRB)) * (Tm FGA - Tm FG) + Tm TOV) + (Opp FGA + 0.4 * Opp FTA - 1.07 * (Opp ORB / (Opp ORB + Tm DRB)) * (Opp FGA - Opp FG) + Opp TOV))

Hollinger uses a slightly different formula. For instance, we're 2nd in ORtg with Dean O's formula, but 1st overall with Hollinger's formula. Just a variation.

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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby Fairview4Life on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:26 am

Are you sure those points off turnovers isn't backwards? Jack kept talking about how the Raps had turned the Hornets over 12 times for 24 points at one point in the game. That seems like a positive. Shouldn't the Raps have the 27 and the Hornets the 7?
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby Fairview4Life on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:30 am

supersub15 wrote:Hollinger uses a slightly different formula. For instance, we're 2nd in ORtg with Dean O's formula, but 1st overall with Hollinger's formula. Just a variation.


Well then obviously Hollinger is a statistical genius, on the offensive end. Possibly defensively as well if the Raps rank higher on his scale on that end too.
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby supersub15 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:33 am

Fairview4Life wrote:Are you sure those points off turnovers isn't backwards? Jack kept talking about how the Raps had turned the Hornets over 12 times for 24 points at one point in the game. That seems like a positive. Shouldn't the Raps have the 27 and the Hornets the 7?


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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby Death Knight on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:34 am

I don't really care for the efficiency stuff from a defensive standpoint. All I care about is opponent FG% and 3PT% against.

OPP FG% - 0.444 (18th)
OPP 3PT% - 0.430 (26th)

The Orlando game hurts........
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby Tom Baker on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:59 am

First of all, to SS:

I do read this thread as often as I can, and I don't always drop in to say thanks, so as for posting, I'll just drop you a global thanks for these threads.

Second, thanks for the SRS link. I read the whole thing, and glossed on pretty quickly that we were talking about a 30x30 matrix, and wondering if you solved it by hand of if you used a computer. I don't know if there's a program that solves matrices, though there probably would be one out there.

Then I read that the author didn't actually solved the matrix, but used iterations of some (long but) simple calculations until the numbers stopped changing.

My questions are, are you calculating this yourself, or are you taking it from a website? And, if you're calculating it yourself, do you actually solve the matrix or do you do the iterations? And... if you're doing the iterations, have you ever tried plugging the solutions back into the original matrix just to see if it is the actual solution set?
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby Tom Baker on Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:02 am

Also, just to make it easier to see what the Eastern conference rankings are, I added the numbers in parantheses at the beginning of each line.

supersub15 wrote:Daily Eastern Conference Power Ranking (using SRS):

(1) 1. Boston Celtics
(2) 2. Orlando Magic
(3) 4. Miami Heat
(4) 7. Cleveland Cavaliers
(5) 9. Toronto Raptors
(6) 12. Milwaukee Bucks
(7) 14. Detroit Pistons
(8) 15. Chicago Bulls
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(10) 19. Indiana Pacers
(11) 21. Washington Wizards
(12) 22. Philadelphia 76ers
(13) 23. Charlotte Bobcats
(14) 26. New York Knickerbockers
(15) 30. New Jersey
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Re: Stat of the Day: Game 5 Stats (New Orleans)

Postby sanity on Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:06 am

really surprised to see the hawks that low.
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