This whole Raptor-Knick, Rose-Hardaway-draft pick thing got a whole lot murkier this week.
As anyone with Internet access knows, the talk of trading Toronto's Jalen Rose for New York's Penny Hardaway is still hot, with the stumbling block apparently being the Raptors' aversion to tossing in a first-round pick in the deal.
The big benefit for the Raptors would be about $17 million (U.S.) salary cap relief next summer; Hardaway is hardly going to turn into a regular rotation guy with the Raptors.
If the pick would be Denver's, which Toronto got in the Vince Carter trade a year ago, news that Marcus Camby of the Nuggets is out indefinitely after surgery on his finger clouds the issue greatly.
With Kenyon Martin bothered by a bad knee, Nene out for the season probably after a knee operation and now Camby on the shelf for a while, the Nuggets will be hard-pressed to hang on and make the playoffs in the Western Conference, which would give the Raptors two lottery picks next June.
If Jalen Rose rumours aren't enough on their own, he's also now linked to Ron Artest and his imminent departure from Indiana.
Yesterday, it was Rose to the Lakers, either Devean George or Slava Medvedenko to Toronto along with Austin Croshere from the Pacers.
It's not likely to happen, according to Raptor sources; just the next in a long list of Rose rumours.
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He was booed at home for his recent uninspired play and questioned by coach Larry Brown for hurting the Knicks by passing up open shots in Wednesday's loss in Orlando, and everything about Stephon Marbury's downcast demeanor suggests he'd rather be someplace else.
But as Marbury went out of his way to emphasize yesterday, looks can be deceiving.
"Hey, man, I love New York, and I want to be here more than anything," Marbury volunteered in an interview after practice. "Whatever it's going to take for me to win, I'm going to do it because I feel like New York deserves it ... If it's sacrificing my game, I'm willing to do that."
In Marbury's view, that's exactly what he was doing in Orlando when he took only three shots in the first three quarters and finished with five points, 0-for-7 shooting and three assists. The hot shooters were Eddy Curry, who had 29 points, and Jamal Crawford, with 24. Marbury said he passed up open shots to get better ones for teammates, which is what Brown wants from his point guard.
Brown was in no mood to add fuel to the fire yesterday, declaring the incident over. But he did not back off his critical postgame comments. Performance fluctuates from game to game, but Brown said, "In my mind, he had a lot of good looks [in Orlando] that he didn't look to take. I think you can hurt your team by doing that."
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One game after being benched for most of the fourth quarter in a loss to the Nets, Stephon Marbury seemingly took himself out of the Knicks' offense. Was it a coincidence or cause and effect?
Knicks coach Larry Brown sounded mystified by Marbury's failure to get his normal share of shots, points and assists. But Marbury said he was content to let Eddy Curry and Jamal Crawford carry the offense while he tried to play the traditional point-guard role in the Knicks' 105-95 loss to Orlando last night at TD Waterhouse Centre.
The Knicks allowed the Magic to shoot 52.8 percent, gave up 23 points on 18 turnovers, were outscored 20-7 on the fast break and had zero steals to 14 for the Magic. Ordinarily, Marbury would be more involved in the offense, especially in the late stages. But he took only three shots in the first three quarters and finished with five points on 0-for-7 shooting while totaling a mere three assists and no steals.
"I think he just didn't want to shoot the ball," Brown said. "I thought he'd have 15 to 20 assists [if he wasn't shooting]. It's just one of those nights. Maybe he didn't feel like he was on."
Asked if Marbury deferred too much to Curry, Brown said, "I don't know. I know he was 0-for-7 with three assists in 41 minutes. That's tough. But he tried to guard. It's just one of those things."
This isn't the first time Marbury has struggled to find his place in Brown's offense, but the coach sounded puzzled as to why Marbury wasn't more aggressive in finding his shot.
"You know, he's got the ball all the time," Brown said. "I ran probably as much stuff for him tonight as I have at any time. It's just one of those nights. Maybe he didn't feel like he had it. But we got three assists and no steals."
After a postgame briefing from the public relations department, a bemused Marbury looked at the crowd of reporters waiting for him and said, "Uh-oh, something must have happened." Then, he wrote off his performance as a poor shooting night. "Tonight, I was just trying to do everything that coach wanted me to do as far as running the team," Marbury said.
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Knicks Dec 2005 Archive
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New York Daily News | Dec 29, 2005
Eddy Curry can't stay healthy.
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New York Post | Dec 27, 2005
In the eyes of Knick rookie Nate Robinson, a double standard exists.
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NY Post | Dec 26, 2005
Two league sources, however, told The Post that James Dolan is almost up to his limit — that he's no longer willing to be Santa Claus and he's reluctant to add much to his already league-high $119 million payroll for only a marginal boost.
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New York Daily News | Dec 26, 2005
The New York Knicks will not only have to deal with a red-hot Vince Carter (35.
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New York Post | Dec 25, 2005
Untouchable rookie Channing Frye now will have his butt touching the bench at tip-off.
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Toronto Sun | Dec 25, 2005
Jalen Rose feels it may be a matter of time before he is dealt as his team has had discussions with the New York Knicks and, possibly, the Los Angeles Lakers
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New York Daily News | Dec 24, 2005
Things have been so bad for the Knicks lately that even the wins hurt.
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NY Post | Dec 23, 2005
The Lakers may also be interested in Jalen Rose, but the Knicks are the only viable trading partner and they may have to also include the #1 pick that they got for Vince Carter.
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NY Post | Dec 22, 2005
Stephon Marbury is not worried about being traded. "I feel secure," Marbury said. "I'm fine here. I feel I'm part of it."
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New York Daily News | Dec 22, 2005
The Knicks' on-again, off-again pursuit of Jalen Rose may be on again, the New York Daily News is reporting.
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Newsday | Dec 19, 2005
Isiah Thomas said it's too soon to entertain the notion of trading Marbury, who has four years worth $76.
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ESPN | Dec 17, 2005
If Isiah Thomas can't land Ron Artest, with the Pacers intent on sending the wayward swingman to the West, look for him to pursue Seattle's Rashard Lewis.
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Orlando Sentinel | Dec 15, 2005
Former Magic guard Penny Hardaway, who is on the New York Knicks' inactive list, says that the Orlando media blamed him for Brian Hill's ouster in a player coup in 1997.
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AP | Dec 14, 2005
Isiah Thomas said he contacted the Indiana Pacers on Wednesday, but he won't trade any of his young players for Ron Artest.
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Washington Post | Dec 14, 2005
The Wizards have discussed a trade that would send Chucky Atkins and fourth-year forward Jared Jeffries to the New York Knicks in exchange for swingman Quentin Richardson.
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NY Post | Dec 14, 2005
The auditions are over.
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NY Times | Dec 14, 2005
The Knicks have not yet approached the Pacers about obtaining Ron Artest.
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Newsday | Dec 13, 2005
"Ron changed that statement," Pacers GM Donnie Walsh said in relation to Artest wanted to be traded to the Knicks. "He said he'd go anywhere, and I wouldn't feel I had to do that [deal with the Knicks] anyway. I'm going to take the best offer."
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Sun-Sentinel | Dec 11, 2005
By NBA rule, players signed as free agents in the offseason cannot be dealt until Dec. 15 or three months after signing, whichever comes later.
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Bergen Record | Dec 10, 2005
Denver's Earl Watson, still little-used behind Andre Miller and Earl Boykins, remains on the Knicks' radar screen and is eligible to be traded Thursday.
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ESPN | Dec 9, 2005
Matt Barnes is coming back to Philadelphia.
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Toronto Star | Dec 7, 2005
Two Chicago men were charged Wednesday in the shooting death of the brother of New York Knicks guard Quentin Richardson.
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NY Post | Dec 7, 2005
Richard Jefferson, pronounced the team a group of mental and physical wimps.
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NY Times | Dec 6, 2005
Quentin Richardson has left the Knicks indefinitely to be with his family after the fatal shooting of his brother in Chicago.
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Tacoma News-Tribune | Dec 6, 2005
“I’d like to meet the cop who arrested him. I know he is doing his job, but I still think he is a (jerk)." -- Knicks center Jerome James on the arrest of former teammate Rashard Lewis
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Press Release | Dec 6, 2005
New York Knickerbockers President of Basketball Operations Isiah Thomas announced today that forward/guard Qyntel Woods has been signed as a free agent.
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NY Times | Dec 6, 2005
The Knicks appear to be on the verge of signing the 24-year-old small forward Qyntel Woods.
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NY Post | Dec 4, 2005
Matt Barnes started on opening night in Boston but now he has been released.
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LA Times | Dec 4, 2005
Reports are coming out that the Pistons offered Rasheed Wallace and Darko Milicic, while the Knicks had offered the expiring contracts of Antonio Davis and Penny Hardaway for Kevin Garnett.
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Press Release | Dec 3, 2005
New York Knickerbockers President of Basketball Operations Isiah Thomas announced today that forward Matt Barnes has been waived.
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New York Post | Dec 2, 2005
One Knick will be honored tonight by the Pistons and it won't be Larry Brown.
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SI.com | Dec 1, 2005
Larry Brown is returning to the city he helped bring a championship as his Knicks take to the floor of The Palace of Auburn Hills to face the Pistons.
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NY Post | Dec 1, 2005
Tim Thomas said his first choice is to play for Indiana and isn't sure he'd want a reunion with Larry Brown.
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NY Daily News | Dec 1, 2005
Chicago could have close to $22 million in cap space to sign Harrington, who has been the object of Isiah Thomas' desires since the Knicks president arrived in New York.