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Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023

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Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#1 » by ijspeelman » Wed Nov 1, 2023 11:13 pm

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Another depleted Cavs game, but lets get it.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#2 » by Iwasawitness » Wed Nov 1, 2023 11:36 pm

If there's any potential silver lining, it's that RJ Barrett is apparently out tonight. I still can't for the life of me see the Cavs winning.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#3 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Nov 1, 2023 11:52 pm

Another loss incoming, I'd say the goal is keep guys minutes down and don't have any more guys come away injured.

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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#4 » by jbk1234 » Thu Nov 2, 2023 12:08 am

Just about done with Ballys.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#5 » by Iwasawitness » Thu Nov 2, 2023 12:15 am

I have no idea how we're leading coming out of the first quarter, but here we are. The loss is inevitable, but whatever.

With that said, I have a feeling my prediction regarding Mitchell is going to come true. No, he's not going to score 50 (maybe he will... crazier things have happened like the 70 point outburst), but you can tell he's REALLY in the zone tonight and not happy right now. He's determined to win this game no matter what.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#6 » by ijspeelman » Thu Nov 2, 2023 12:49 am

It is crazy how the Knicks weaponize the offensive rebound. Its not even that the Cavs are rebounding poorly on defense, but they attack our defensive style like no other.

As soon as Mobley has to step in to contest any shot that isn't his man. His man seals him. If a Cav helps on Mobley's man, the corner is open. They also intentionally leave the weakside incredibly empty so we cannot just zone up two men. It may be worth attempting zone against this team as they miss a lot.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#7 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:32 am

ijspeelman wrote:It is crazy how the Knicks weaponize the offensive rebound. Its not even that the Cavs are rebounding poorly on defense, but they attack our defensive style like no other.

As soon as Mobley has to step in to contest any shot that isn't his man. His man seals him. If a Cav helps on Mobley's man, the corner is open. They also intentionally leave the weakside incredibly empty so we cannot just zone up two men. It may be worth attempting zone against this team as they miss a lot.
Zones are VERY difficult to rebound out of, that is their knock.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#8 » by ijspeelman » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:59 am

I didn’t see if JB fixed it while watching live so I may need to back and check, but the rebounding got better in those plays.

Most proud of Craig Porter and Tristan Thompson for stepping up and playing great defense. Wasn’t able to watch yesterday’s game.

Defense looked great. These Knicks really need the ORBs to get going (and it helps Brunson and Randle were slow tonight).
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#9 » by ijspeelman » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:03 am

Also, want to add that if we went 1 of 2 fully healthy we may have been a bit disappointed, but with so many injuries going 1 of 2 is fairly commendable.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#10 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:08 am

Aye, gotta praise the win!
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#11 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:14 am

I'm honestly shocked that the Cavs could pull that one out with how bad Mitchell looks in the box.

Wish I coulda watched that one instead of last night's game.

Seem rebounding will still be an issue against them, if they get matched up in the playoffs.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#12 » by jbk1234 » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:27 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:I'm honestly shocked that the Cavs could pull that one out with how bad Mitchell looks in the box.

Wish I coulda watched that one instead of last night's game.

Seem rebounding will still be an issue against them, if they get matched up in the playoffs.


Yeah, I feel like Ballys just stole $20 from me. They better get it fixed soon because there are other options.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#13 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:46 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:I'm honestly shocked that the Cavs could pull that one out with how bad Mitchell looks in the box.

Wish I coulda watched that one instead of last night's game.

Seem rebounding will still be an issue against them, if they get matched up in the playoffs.


Yeah, I feel like Ballys just stole $20 from me. They better get it fixed soon because there are other options.
I heard it was pretty clunky last season, so didn't bother this season.

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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#14 » by toooskies » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:50 am

2-3 feels a ton better than 1-4.

TT may be the third big I've wanted on the team. Remains to be seen whether he can play with Mobley or Allen, though.

The Knicks couldn't hit a 3-pointer to save their life tonight.

The whistles from the refs seem consistently against us this year.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#15 » by Iwasawitness » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:59 am

I’m at a loss for words. I have no idea how we managed to win this game, but I’m all for it. Let’s get our guys back fully healthy and ready to go.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#16 » by jbk1234 » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:06 am

toooskies wrote:2-3 feels a ton better than 1-4.

TT may be the third big I've wanted on the team. Remains to be seen whether he can play with Mobley or Allen, though.

The Knicks couldn't hit a 3-pointer to save their life tonight.

The whistles from the refs seem consistently against us this year.


Yeah, I'm glad TT can still play, but I think he might be matchup dependent. Even in his prime he was a bad post defender against skilled bigs who had a back-to-the-basket game. Damian Jones seems like a wasted roster spot at this point.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#17 » by afarmenian » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:17 am

Kinda shocked that tristen looks semi decent out there I thought for sure he was getting the haslem treatment
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#18 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:21 am

toooskies wrote:2-3 feels a ton better than 1-4.

TT may be the third big I've wanted on the team. Remains to be seen whether he can play with Mobley or Allen, though.

The Knicks couldn't hit a 3-pointer to save their life tonight.

The whistles from the refs seem consistently against us this year.

In a 7 game series, that is probably the bet to make/take against that team and go rebound heavy to attempt to keep em off the offensive glass.
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#19 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:22 am

afarmenian wrote:Kinda shocked that tristen looks semi decent out there I thought for sure he was getting the haslem treatment
He's still only 32, just had the old man game since he was 19 and never worked on it lol
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Re: Game 5: Cavs @ Knicks 11/1/2023 

Post#20 » by jasonxxx102 » Thu Nov 2, 2023 10:50 am

What an ugly win lol but hey it’s a lot better than 1-4.

Really nothing to take from that other than the defense was good combined with the Knicks (sans Brunson) being as cold as I’ve ever seen a team

Julius Randle is just awful at this point.

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