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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#21 » by Bob8 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:51 am

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Mavrelous wrote:How did OMax look?


He looked great, considering he hasn't had the continuity of play that Lively has had. I personally thought he was the best player on the Mavs today.


We need to be a little more realistic here. He's really giving everything on the court, but his shooting is awful. He will need to fix that, if he wants to be in rotation.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#22 » by Archx » Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:55 am

daoneandonly wrote:I never was or will be on the Green train, but now I've jumped off the Hardy one


I think Green plays way harder during games than Hardy but they made us believe with that "untouchables" during the preseason that Hardy improvement was god-like. Well, he's still just another low IQ chucker who needs Luka to create space for him to be effective.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#23 » by Dali » Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:55 am

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Mavrelous wrote:How did OMax look?


He looked great, considering he hasn't had the continuity of play that Lively has had. I personally thought he was the best player on the Mavs today.


We need to be a little more realistic here. He's really giving everything on the court, but his shooting is awful. He will need to fix that, if he wants to be in rotation.


Yep agree. His offense in general has a ways to go, but today he was great. 7/13 from the field and 6 rebounds too if I remember correctly. Gotta give him kudos today.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#24 » by Archx » Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:01 am

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He looked great, considering he hasn't had the continuity of play that Lively has had. I personally thought he was the best player on the Mavs today.


We need to be a little more realistic here. He's really giving everything on the court, but his shooting is awful. He will need to fix that, if he wants to be in rotation.


Yep agree. His offense in general has a ways to go, but today he was great. 7/13 from the field and 6 rebounds too if I remember correctly. Gotta give him kudos today.


Yep. Omax needs minutes to learn and get experience but Kidd thinks otherwise. Same goes for Holmes, much better option than Powell. But apparently playing Kieff in almost 2024 is more important. I already can't handle the stress from watching THj, Powell and Hardy.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#25 » by Mavrelous » Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:02 am

Hardy is immature and unproffissional, he had a breakout season last year after dropping in the draft, instead of building on it, he squanders every opportunity he gets, he's not lasting long in the league with this mindset.
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Post#26 » by Mavrelous » Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:09 am

Holmes has been a disppointment offensively, but he's still better than Powell at everything, even the Gortat screens which Powell and Kleber excell at, Holmes also masters.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#27 » by Bob8 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:32 am

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He looked great, considering he hasn't had the continuity of play that Lively has had. I personally thought he was the best player on the Mavs today.


We need to be a little more realistic here. He's really giving everything on the court, but his shooting is awful. He will need to fix that, if he wants to be in rotation.


Yep agree. His offense in general has a ways to go, but today he was great. 7/13 from the field and 6 rebounds too if I remember correctly. Gotta give him kudos today.


I'm very afraid for his shooting. How he shoots now, it's more like prayers, chances of making shot or airballing it are the same.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#28 » by Mavrelous » Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:51 am

Another problem with Prosper, he's long and athletic enough to dunk and finish strong, but he's too hesitant on drives and end up with soft layups when his touch isn't great, that should cleanup with reps.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#29 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:13 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Holmes has been a disppointment offensively, but he's still better than Powell at everything, even the Gortat screens which Powell and Kleber excell at, Holmes also masters.


Kidd is smart and let play a Cuban buddy is a good move for keep his job.

And probably he has personal problems with Holmes, he can't be behind Powell, Morris and Brown III.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#30 » by daoneandonly » Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:40 pm

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daoneandonly wrote:I never was or will be on the Green train, but now I've jumped off the Hardy one


I think Green plays way harder during games than Hardy but they made us believe with that "untouchables" during the preseason that Hardy improvement was god-like. Well, he's still just another low IQ chucker who needs Luka to create space for him to be effective.


I'm going to very respectfully disagree. I think Green stepped up his game and worked hard when it was that window to have extension talks. Once he got his guaranteed contract, he's back to being borderline unplayable
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#31 » by Dali » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:40 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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We need to be a little more realistic here. He's really giving everything on the court, but his shooting is awful. He will need to fix that, if he wants to be in rotation.


Yep agree. His offense in general has a ways to go, but today he was great. 7/13 from the field and 6 rebounds too if I remember correctly. Gotta give him kudos today.


I'm very afraid for his shooting. How he shoots now, it's more like prayers, chances of making shot or airballing it are the same.


Yeah we probably shouldn't accept any major improvement in offense until at the very least next season, and might actually have to wait multiple seasons for his offense to be refined.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#32 » by Dali » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:43 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Another problem with Prosper, he's long and athletic enough to dunk and finish strong, but he's too hesitant on drives and end up with soft layups when his touch isn't great, that should cleanup with reps.


This has definitely been a problem too, agree. Today however, he actually was aggressive in finishing the drives with dunks. It's almost like he was a little bit unleashed with so many players rested/injured.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#33 » by Dali » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:47 pm

Archx wrote:
Dali wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
We need to be a little more realistic here. He's really giving everything on the court, but his shooting is awful. He will need to fix that, if he wants to be in rotation.


Yep agree. His offense in general has a ways to go, but today he was great. 7/13 from the field and 6 rebounds too if I remember correctly. Gotta give him kudos today.


Yep. Omax needs minutes to learn and get experience but Kidd thinks otherwise. Same goes for Holmes, much better option than Powell. But apparently playing Kieff in almost 2024 is more important. I already can't handle the stress from watching THj, Powell and Hardy.


Kief had that good game where he was 10/5/4 for the game, and Kidd will pick him because of that one game for the foreseeable future.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs @ Rockets (Frid., 8 PM EST) 

Post#34 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:48 pm

I agree that Kief can play 10minutes from the bench at 4... He is not unplayble like Powell

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