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RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Cavs (Wed., 830PMEST)

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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Cavs (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#81 » by JWillTheFreak » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:30 pm

Stop comparing Luka and Harden... Luka shows up in big games and actually puts better numbers in the playoffs.

Brunson is playing better because he is the number one option for the knicks, if he stayed with the mavs he still would put 20 plus points.

Porzingis was always injured when he started to play to his potential... also he couldn't score in the post even against pat bev, so yeah he was a pick and pop player.

Yeah Luka missed some shot buts it's not gonna be always luka magic down the stretch people expect way to much.

Kyrie been playing off the ball most of his career so I don't know what you trying to say.

Mavs playing luka ball because with the roster they have that's their best chance of winning games.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Cavs (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#82 » by Archx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:36 pm

joesha1698 wrote: - teams with high usage ratings like luka doesnt win.


What is the point of this video? They all talked how Luka needs more help. We all know that for years now, we talk about it almost every day. They also need a change in offensive schemes since it's basically either Kyrie 1v5 or Luka 1v5. So i don't know what you're trying to say here.

I wouldn't exactly say that DFS has a career year in BKN. He might average 1ppg more than usually and his shooting numbers are great but he's still playing from the bench and his overall advance impact numbers don't exactly scream out anything special. They actually look worse than his Mavs years.

Also, Harden was never a playmaker or passer like Doncic, i freaking hate those comparisons. He was a product of refs and was not as efficient as Luka is. Except for his FT's which boosted his overall TS%.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Cavs (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#83 » by BliscoSantos » Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:26 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
Archx wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:now tell ne who Else is playing better without Luka than these two??


Barnes and DSJ have been all-nba players since they left Mavs :lol: Bullock doesn't even see the floor anymore and DFS has been relegated to bench. So yeah, i don't know what he is talking about. Don't forget guys like Maxi, Powell, DFS, Green, THJ, etc... all have been paid well since Luka arrived.


DFS is having a career year (numbers wise) in a bad offense in Brooklyn last time i checked. Lastly, all these guys around Luka fit his style of play. So, you cant have it both ways, saying he needs more help and then when he gets help - blame them because they do not fit Luka's style. At some point your gonna have to look at his style of play(luka ball) just like James Harden if he continues to lose.


So you could only find Dodo(who is a 3 and D player) next to Brunson and KP as the players who Play better without Luka...Dodo is basicaly the same,KP finaly healthy and figured out he's not a star but a complimentary piece and Brunson who has basicaly Luka usage in New York...

I agree, Mavs need to stop with Luka ball,but the problem is that they have limited Players...apart from Kyrie and Exum nobody can drible past a defender, most of them have huge flaws...Look,Grant was the big get,yet he can't do anything on O apart from shooting an open 3...he is/was the starting PF yet can't Grab a rebound or finish inside because he's too small and unathletic...We've seen how important a rookie C has become for this team...none of the other big men are capable of finishing Strong under the basket...Green ,Hardy,Timmy,Curry are spot up shooters,they rarely blow by the defender ,unless it's a fast break... that's why the coaches role soo important for this Mavs team,yet they have a spectator on the bench ,who has no set plays,no gameplan and ust lets the Players figure it out themselve
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Cavs (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#84 » by JonFromVA » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:34 am

Kyrie in Cleveland was not an off the ball player, he mostly just hung out until it was his turn. This Cavs has had much better movement and more assists with Mitchell/Garland and their hero ball out of the lineup. Whether they'll see their teammates can do more when they return is a big tbd.

LeVert is kind of our THJ who just happened to have his hot game against you guys.
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Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Cavs (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#85 » by Forbes » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:31 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
Forbes wrote:
Bob8 wrote:I would like to know, what kind of injury Kyrie has? 10 games, and counting, looks a lot.


A little heel injury. He’s soft though, not surprised he’s out for this long.

I’m just waiting to see what coach we can get and how we can improve at the deadline.


A 6'2-6'3 guy that plays like he's 6'6 and one of the best finishers in NBA history is soft? Hit one of the most iconic shots in NBA history and came back down 3-1 against a team with the best record in NBA history. It wasnt just Lebron. Soft guys don't do that.

Kyrie aint soft. The problem is the Mavs play a soft brand of basketball and live and die by the 3 point shot - which is settling / the opposite of being aggressive. Plus, our best player (Luka) probably cries more than any great offensive skill player Ive ever seen. So, I don't get where you can call Kyrie soft and totally ignore the Mavs style of play or Luka's questionable effort on defense and constant whining for calls. Watch the final 5 minutes of tonight's game and you'll literally see Luka and some of the other Mavs escort the Cavs to the basket for easy points.



Bringing up style of play and player hitting a game winner has absolutely nothing to do with the version of soft I was talking about.

I said “he has a little heel injury and is soft for being out that long.” In response to some asking about Kyrie’s injury

Kyrie has a history of injuries some big some small and when they are small he’s does not play. He’s played 70+ games only 3 times in his career. He is in fact soft.

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