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Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:42 pm
by wco81
Several coaches make well over 8 figures now.
Most players don't make anything.
There are still a lot of kids going into football so colleges can keep getting free labor.
But supposedly the more affluent families are keeping their sons out of the sport, redirecting them to other sports.
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:28 am
by Cactus Jack
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 7:14 pm
by wco81
Just got an alert, Johnny Manziel announced he is boycotting the Heisman ceremonies until they return the trophy to Reggie Bush.
Someone was inviting Johnny?
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 8:08 pm
by RaoulDuke79
wco81 wrote:Just got an alert, Johnny Manziel announced he is boycotting the Heisman ceremonies until they return the trophy to Reggie Bush.
Someone was inviting Johnny?
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 8:27 pm
by hermes
do they invite the winners back for the presentation each year?
when did they take reggie's trophy away? and why does johnny care, are they friends or something?
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:51 am
by WentzerWuver
Not sure of the purpose of this thread but if da Bears draft you know who....it will be Bryce Young 2.0 all over again. Daniel is my top QB for 2024 by a mile. Don't pass up on the next Lamar!
https://youtu.be/dXShDWFI5rU?si=K1YflpYRmiyBu-7fhttps://youtube.com/shorts/jCl00a5d9UE?si=l1ohi_l8lMxuftxahttps://youtu.be/1vZSlyAtSR0?si=TeOc0oDTZNRYyPVkDon't do it!
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:32 pm
by LAKESHOW
I've seen Daniel since HS. At the time an Elite California prospect at QB. So I agree, dude has all the tools. Both Caleb and Daniel's are solid. But when the rookies come in, it's always about what the team is doing to protect and nurture. Andrew Luck came out of Stanford and was ruined with as many shots he took. Joe burrow was almost cooked, until the Bengals finally realized they need move protection. So Both Jayden and Caleb are quality prospects, but it's always about the Franchise. And in Chicago's case, there's a reason why they've seemingly had 25 QBs in 25 years(jk), but they've shuffled thru so many, it may not matter who is back there. They have a reputation
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:53 pm
by WentzerWuver
LAKESHOW wrote:I've seen Daniel since HS. At the time an Elite California prospect at QB. So I agree, dude has all the tools. Both Caleb and Daniel's are solid. But when the rookies come in, it's always about what the team is doing to protect and nurture. Andrew Luck came out of Stanford and was ruined with as many shots he took. Joe burrow was almost cooked, until the Bengals finally realized they need move protection. So Both Jayden and Caleb are quality prospects, but it's always about the Franchise. And in Chicago's case, there's a reason why they've seemingly had 25 QBs in 25 years(jk), but they've shuffled thru so many, it may not matter who is back there. They have a reputation
Da Bears and fans who want Caleb are just basing it off his highlight reels. If you watched most entire Trojans games vs Tigers game with Daniels, it's night and day where one is aloof in the pocket dancing and prancing trying to act like Mahomes while the other is consistently moving the down the field making smart instinctive plays with his arm and legs, nothing wasted.
https://youtu.be/z9yXOoHic0s?si=sSiAGoHo12Zul940https://youtube.com/shorts/kG76VOXhFVI?si=rUuvqRs8_VdHpKM7I know who I want as a QB cause I want winners!
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:35 pm
by LAKESHOW
Again, I've seen and watched Daniel's in HS. And even performances in camps., and yes, collegiately at Arizona State, then in Louisiana. We Californians have a long history of QBs and QB play. I am in no way an uninformed viewer. I'm saying he is as high Quality as Caleb. It's all about the necessity of the drafting team to do right by their drafted player.
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:51 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 pm
by WentzerWuver
LAKESHOW wrote:Again, I've seen and watched Daniel's in HS. And even performances in camps., and yes, collegiately at Arizona State, then in Louisiana. We Californians have a long history of QBs and QB play. I am in no way an uninformed viewer. I'm saying he is as high Quality as Caleb. It's all about the necessity of the drafting team to do right by their drafted player.
If Daniels plays for ChiTown, he won't need a great o-line to be competitive. His legs will do the talking in the pros as well.
https://lsutigerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/20/lsu-football-jayden-daniels-commanders-perfect-fit-espn/He is the NEXT Lamar with a higher ceiling!
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:49 am
by LAKESHOW
Sounds good. Hope for the best!
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:47 am
by WentzerWuver
LAKESHOW wrote:Sounds good. Hope for the best!
Always. Lamar has the same mobility as Daniels but was very inaccurate as a passer from midrange to deep unlike Daniels who is pinpoint accurate at all 3 range. That's why he will not fall to the last pick in the first round.
Bears need to grab him with the top pick!
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:37 pm
by DOT
Jayden Daniels threw for over 3,000 yards once in 5 years
Lamar did it twice in 3
Jayden Daniels has 1 season of over 1k rushing yards in 5 years
Lamar did it twice in 3. To put it another way, in 55 games over 5 years, Daniels has 3307 total rushing yards, in Lamar's last 2 seasons in Louisville alone he had 3172 in 26 games
It's really not comparable.
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:26 pm
by LAKESHOW
WentzerWuver wrote:LAKESHOW wrote:Sounds good. Hope for the best!
Always. Lamar has the same mobility as Daniels but was very inaccurate as a passer from midrange to deep unlike Daniels who is pinpoint accurate at all 3 range. That's why he will not fall to the last pick in the first round.
Bears need to grab him with the top pick!
I understand your arguing points. And Yes, Daniel's is an excellent prospect. But Chicago will most likely go with Caleb
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:13 pm
by WentzerWuver
DOT wrote:Jayden Daniels threw for over 3,000 yards once in 5 years
Lamar did it twice in 3
Jayden Daniels has 1 season of over 1k rushing yards in 5 years
Lamar did it twice in 3. To put it another way, in 55 games over 5 years, Daniels has 3307 total rushing yards, in Lamar's last 2 seasons in Louisville alone he had 3172 in 26 games
It's really not comparable.
Lol maybe that matters to you for even bringing those stats up but not to most teams when it comes to the draft. His major weakness has always been his accuracy or lack thereof, especially in the playoffs. Now don't get me wrong, I always liked Lamar's passion for the game but cannot figure out if his accuracy issues are mental or the coordination ability required that separate the great QB apart from the insanely physical athletic traits that scouts and fans seems to care sooo much about more than someone with an average joe build like Joe Cool, Purdy and GOAT Brady.
The Ravens had a top o-line last season yet he still failed to connect to his receivers deep when they were open in the playoffs given the time he had in the pocket. If Rodgers was behind that line, they would have beaten the Chiefs and go on to win the SB and you know it.
https://ebonybird.com/2022/06/12/ravens-lamar-jackson-worst-deep-passers/Daniels average over 70% completion during his last 2 seasons at LSU under all conditions compared to around 50% and worse when going deep. That's why he's a top 3 lottery pick and Lamar was not.
Simple as that.
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:18 pm
by DOT
I can just make **** up too
If Lamar in college stayed for 5 years and had 2 1st round WRs to throw to, he would’ve looked better than Daniels and you know it
See?
Crowning him as better than a 2x MVP because he had 1 good season in his 5th year in college is just wild, but I’m guessing it’s just a troll job.
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:27 pm
by LAKESHOW
DOT wrote:I can just make **** up too
but I’m guessing it’s just a troll job.
Well he did say QUEEN played the Superbowl Half time...lol
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:23 am
by WentzerWuver
DOT wrote:I can just make **** up too
If Lamar in college stayed for 5 years and had 2 1st round WRs to throw to, he would’ve looked better than Daniels and you know it
See?
Crowning him as better than a 2x MVP because he had 1 good season in his 5th year in college is just wild, but I’m guessing it’s just a troll job.
If so, then I must be doing a bang-up job on his behalf along with those in his camp as team scouts and analysts view him as a top-tier QB least likely to bust unlike those other QB in this draft class. Even if Lamar was in THIS draft class coming out of college, NO team would have taken him as their top QB as I didn't in that draft and I surely don't need to make things up like you would need to for Lamar to fool teams into taken him over Daniels.
In reality, he ended up being drafted with the last pick for day 1 to back up Flacco.
https://youtube.com/shorts/_azL9WIULFQ?si=8xzdUCYZv_kJXIIKMost posters would use hindsight to argue like you just did with the 2x MVP bit like you KNEW all along he'd be THIS successful in the NFL Lol
Re: OT: College Football
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:01 pm
by DOT
Yeah, it's pretty clearly just trolling
I don't even think there's a cogent point in there, it's just vomiting out words to argue and then linking random videos.
