What's that website for Stat Geeks for the NFL?

[Wade3Iverson]

So whats the equivalent of 82games.com or basketball-reference.com in terms of the NFL?

[J.Kim]

You mean www.footballoutsiders.com ?

[Basketball Jesus]

Also check out the following:


www.databasefootball.com
www.football-reference.com
www.coldhardfootballfacts.com



Football Outsiders is like the Baseball Prospectus of football sites.

[J.Kim]

Cold Hard Football Facts is a new one... Thanks BBJ

Check out Football Reference's blog if you can... it's a good read... I try to catch up but there's not enough time...

[Basketball Jesus]

CHFF can be a bit snarky and condescending at times (they once openly feuded with the guys over at FO over something really dumb

[HCYanks]

"Our facts can beat up your opinions."

Sure, they talk tough, but what happens when they have to leave their Moms' basements and face sunlight?

[Kid Vicious]

CHFF can be a bit snarky and condescending at times (they once openly feuded with the guys over at FO over something really dumb

[Basketball Jesus]

Ah, that explains why they seem to know so much...they stole it from you.

[Icness]

Ah, that explains why they seem to know so much...they stole it from you.

In actuality, I pirated the idea from a feature in Pro Football Weekly that was trying to explain why red zone defense was so important. That pointed out how the three teams with the top red zone D % ranked pretty low in total yards allowed but all had great records and upper echelon scoring defenses. It works out pretty much every year, as that site has correctly charted. My math isn't good enough to figure it out as often and as quickly as they do.

[Kid Vicious]

I've always used:

http://www.profootballreference.com

[JohnnyBoy8102]

I've always used:

http://www.profootballreference.com

The only thing I don't like about profootballreference is the fact that there aren't any defensive player stats and the pro bowl totals for some players are wrong. If a player was voted to the pro bowl but bowed out because of injury it doesn't list that year as a pro bowl year.

I like databasefootball.com but some of the stats for certain players are wrong as well.

[Icness]

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The only thing I don't like about profootballreference is the fact that there aren't any defensive player stats and the pro bowl totals for some players are wrong. If a player was voted to the pro bowl but bowed out because of injury it doesn't list that year as a pro bowl year.

I like databasefootball.com but some of the stats for certain players are wrong as well.

I never picked up on that before, good catch!

[JohnnyBoy8102]

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I never picked up on that before, good catch!

I noticed it when I was checking pro bowls for players and I remembered certain seasons that they actually made it(that I remembered) and it wasn't listed.


For example: this season Al Wilson made MLB for the AFC.....he bowed out and then Ray Lewis was named to the Pro Bowl as his replacement. Then Ray was hurt and bowed out and Bart Scott was named as a replacement. On that site it will only list Al Wilson as making the Pro Bowl when Scott and Lewis should get credit as well.