2/14 Game 52 Clippers (35-17) @ Warriors (26-25) 7pm ESPN

[SpreeChokeJob]

Lacob sweating that Kuminga's stock value is going down.

He had a hot month. He still has the same issues

People are crazy. JK is not the problem. It’s Kerr first. Then Klay next. If you take these two off the team, Warriors would be winning easily tonight.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Clippers only made 35% of the threes, they were not going to be cold all night, its obvious some threes will drop. Green has a bad defensive game and we can't stop everyone.

Powell killed us in the 4th. Open threes after open threes.

Last year Powell killed us with drives. No Warrior could stay in front of Powell last year. This year he kills us with 3s.

[Onus]

Klays best is literally just streaky shooting. He’s a bad defender. Bad rebounder. Bad help defender. Bad off ball defender. Gets lost on defense. Loses his man constantly. Takes horrible shots which leads to transition points. Takes everyone else out of rhythm because they’re trying to get him shots.

Sometimes he makes some shots, but he’s still doing all of the above. He’s literally an anchor sinking the ship even when he makes some shots. Him getting 30 minutes is criminal.

[Impuniti]

Joku has issues but they're heavily hidden with bandaids in the right lineups. If he's with undisciplined players like himself such as Klay, Saric, TJD, it shows up very easily. Putting him with Wiggins and Draymond helps.

If people are expecting him to go on a 65% TS tear for the rest of the season, then I have a bridge to sell you. Doesn't mean he can't be a positive key component for the team.

[Impuniti]

Klays best is literally just streaky shooting. He’s a bad defender. Bad rebounder. Bad help defender. Bad off ball defender. Gets lost on defense. Loses his man constantly. Takes horrible shots which leads to transition points. Takes everyone else out of rhythm because they’re trying to get him shots.

Sometimes he makes some shots, but he’s still doing all of the above. He’s literally an anchor sinking the ship even when he makes some shots. Him getting 30 minutes is criminal.

You forgot dumb IQ actions like the foul at the end of the game or the pathetic boxing out that happened early in the 4th. Just back breaker actions that shelf your entire season.

BUT HEY!! We just have to deal with it because we have delusional coach, a delusional owner, a delusional FO, and a partly delusional fanbase that bases off ball movement and streaky 3 points shooting plus magical emotional feelings. Those 3 aspects are far more important than everything else that he lacks nowadays in the game.

[Onus]

Lacob sweating that Kuminga's stock value is going down.

He had a hot month. He still has the same issues

People are crazy. JK is not the problem. It’s Kerr first. Then Klay next. If you take these two off the team, Warriors would be winning easily tonight.

Yes Klay is the first flashing red boat is sinking problem. Kerr is 2nd.

Jk was far from being the major problem but Jk wasn’t great. He’s a limited player both offensively and defensively. He’s not a good defender. Gets lost off the ball and rotation. He’s a decent poa defender but nothing special. Probably hurts you least there. Offensively he’s not a good shooter. Can only really attack the rim. Put any half decent rim protector back there and it basically neutralizes him.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Joku has issues but they're heavily hidden with bandaids in the right lineups. If he's with undisciplined players like himself such as Klay, Saric, TJD, it shows up very easily. Putting him with Wiggins and Draymond helps.

If people are expecting him to go on a 65% TS tear for the rest of the season, then I have a bridge to sell you. Doesn't mean he can't be a positive key component for the team.

Dude no one is looking good playing next to Klay and Saric. You can say that about any player.

JK will do fine and he benefits the team by providing an inside threat. You take that away and you’re left with what you had in the beginning of the year where the defense only has to pay attention to the perimeter. Curry Podz will have a much tougher time scoring without JK there. You might as well pack up the season if he doesn’t play.

[whatisacenter]

It was a brutal end of the game even before Klay made his bad mistake. The Warriors were punished at the end for going small for the first time in a long time.

They need to get a bounce back win tomorrow night in Utah and hope the all-star break provides them enough wind in their sails to be able to finish the season strong.

[Impuniti]

He had a hot month. He still has the same issues

People are crazy. JK is not the problem. It’s Kerr first. Then Klay next. If you take these two off the team, Warriors would be winning easily tonight.

Yes Klay is the first flashing red boat is sinking problem. Kerr is 2nd.

Jk was far from being the major problem but Jk wasn’t great. He’s a limited player both offensively and defensively. He’s not a good defender. Gets lost off the ball and rotation. He’s a decent poa defender but nothing special. Probably hurts you least there. Offensively he’s not a good shooter. Can only really attack the rim. Put any half decent rim protector back there and it basically neutralizes him.

I disagree there, Kerr is the biggest hole in the boat. He's responsible for the ridiculous lineups that we regularly see and not playing players based off merit. If Kerr played Klay 15-20MPG, then Klay would not be a problem but likely a nice positive for the team.

Agree that JK had a mediocre game.

[Impuniti]

Joku has issues but they're heavily hidden with bandaids in the right lineups. If he's with undisciplined players like himself such as Klay, Saric, TJD, it shows up very easily. Putting him with Wiggins and Draymond helps.

If people are expecting him to go on a 65% TS tear for the rest of the season, then I have a bridge to sell you. Doesn't mean he can't be a positive key component for the team.

Dude no one is looking good playing next to Klay and Saric. You can say that about any player.

JK will do fine and he benefits the team by providing an inside threat. You take that away and you’re left with what you had in the beginning of the year where the defense only has to pay attention to the perimeter. Curry Podz will have a much tougher time scoring without JK there. You might as well pack up the season if he doesn’t play.

I am with you that JK needs to play, but he definitely needs to refine several aspects of his game.

[Onus]

Joku has issues but they're heavily hidden with bandaids in the right lineups. If he's with undisciplined players like himself such as Klay, Saric, TJD, it shows up very easily. Putting him with Wiggins and Draymond helps.

If people are expecting him to go on a 65% TS tear for the rest of the season, then I have a bridge to sell you. Doesn't mean he can't be a positive key component for the team.

Dude no one is looking good playing next to Klay and Saric. You can say that about any player.

JK will do fine and he benefits the team by providing an inside threat. You take that away and you’re left with what you had in the beginning of the year where the defense only has to pay attention to the perimeter. Curry Podz will have a much tougher time scoring without JK there. You might as well pack up the season if he doesn’t play.

Tbh I’m not sure tjd might not be a better matchup for some teams than jk. Tjd brings the vertical threat and rim pressure without having to run offense for him. He’ll also bring better rebounding and rim protection. Wiggins and dray will allow him to chase blocks and they can rebound.

The problem is that Kerr doesn’t understand matchups. He’s a set rotations, closing 5 and only those 5 kind of coach.

[SpreeChokeJob]

He had a hot month. He still has the same issues

People are crazy. JK is not the problem. It’s Kerr first. Then Klay next. If you take these two off the team, Warriors would be winning easily tonight.

Yes Klay is the first flashing red boat is sinking problem. Kerr is 2nd.

Jk was far from being the major problem but Jk wasn’t great. He’s a limited player both offensively and defensively. He’s not a good defender. Gets lost off the ball and rotation. He’s a decent poa defender but nothing special. Probably hurts you least there. Offensively he’s not a good shooter. Can only really attack the rim. Put any half decent rim protector back there and it basically neutralizes him.

Kerr is the first problem because he makes the decisions. And he plays Klay, which by now is beyond obvious, you don’t play him unless garbage minutes.

Like I said, you have to threaten the interior to keep the defense honest. As to defense, it’s more about how the unit functions together. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. They really need to integrate TJD or Moody with the Wiggs Dray and Kuminga to play against bigger lineups. Once that happens the team will have a fighting chance.

If they roll into playoffs without prepping them, and Kerr goes small we’ll see what happened tonight.

[Onus]

People are crazy. JK is not the problem. It’s Kerr first. Then Klay next. If you take these two off the team, Warriors would be winning easily tonight.

Yes Klay is the first flashing red boat is sinking problem. Kerr is 2nd.

Jk was far from being the major problem but Jk wasn’t great. He’s a limited player both offensively and defensively. He’s not a good defender. Gets lost off the ball and rotation. He’s a decent poa defender but nothing special. Probably hurts you least there. Offensively he’s not a good shooter. Can only really attack the rim. Put any half decent rim protector back there and it basically neutralizes him.

I disagree there, Kerr is the biggest hole in the boat. He's responsible for the ridiculous lineups that we regularly see and not playing players based off merit. If Kerr played Klay 15-20MPG, then Klay would not be a problem but likely a nice positive for the team.

Agree that JK had a mediocre game.

I doubt he’d be a positive even in a reduce minutes load. He has to be constantly reminded to play for the team and not himself. If he just moved the ball and was a spot up shooter maybe he’d be more of a positive. But the selfish shot hunting and shot chucking probably is still a negative even in a reduced role.

Yea Kerr is also a problem. Which is why I continue to say his assistant coaches are 54-5 in his absence and his assistant coaches have proven on other teams not to be special. The players are really covering a lot of his flaws. They just can’t cover up his flaws and Klays flaws at the same time.

[svart]

Too much Klay hate for my taste.

A Raptors game thread is all about saying how they are getting screwed by the refs because the refs hate Canada.

Our game threads are all about hating Klay and Kerr.

30 mins - 4/14 -1/9

We get it, you are behind klay all the way. you may rest now. but in the meantime let us express the obvious . he and kerr are costing us games. if you don't see it, change whatever you are on and watch again.

welcome back steve kerr. i cannot wait to say bye to you.

goddamit!

[Onus]

People are crazy. JK is not the problem. It’s Kerr first. Then Klay next. If you take these two off the team, Warriors would be winning easily tonight.

Yes Klay is the first flashing red boat is sinking problem. Kerr is 2nd.

Jk was far from being the major problem but Jk wasn’t great. He’s a limited player both offensively and defensively. He’s not a good defender. Gets lost off the ball and rotation. He’s a decent poa defender but nothing special. Probably hurts you least there. Offensively he’s not a good shooter. Can only really attack the rim. Put any half decent rim protector back there and it basically neutralizes him.

Kerr is the first problem because he makes the decisions. And he plays Klay, which by now is beyond obvious, you don’t play him unless garbage minutes.

Like I said, you have to threaten the interior to keep the defense honest. As to defense, it’s more about how the unit functions together. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. They really need to integrate TJD or Moody with the Wiggs Dray and Kuminga to play against bigger lineups. Once that happens the team will have a fighting chance.

If they roll into playoffs without prepping them, and Kerr goes small we’ll see what happened tonight.

Klay was throwing a tantrum on the bench when the clippers made their run. Then Kerr decided to reinsert him back into the game.

[bicycle]

Joku has issues but they're heavily hidden with bandaids in the right lineups. If he's with undisciplined players like himself such as Klay, Saric, TJD, it shows up very easily. Putting him with Wiggins and Draymond helps.

If people are expecting him to go on a 65% TS tear for the rest of the season, then I have a bridge to sell you. Doesn't mean he can't be a positive key component for the team.

Dude no one is looking good playing next to Klay and Saric. You can say that about any player.

JK will do fine and he benefits the team by providing an inside threat. You take that away and you’re left with what you had in the beginning of the year where the defense only has to pay attention to the perimeter. Curry Podz will have a much tougher time scoring without JK there. You might as well pack up the season if he doesn’t play.

Tbh I’m not sure tjd might not be a better matchup for some teams than jk. Tjd brings the vertical threat and rim pressure without having to run offense for him. He’ll also bring better rebounding and rim protection. Wiggins and dray will allow him to chase blocks and they can rebound.

The problem is that Kerr doesn’t understand matchups. He’s a set rotations, closing 5 and only those 5 kind of coach.

It's clear that Kerr is incredibly good at the interpersonal relationship stuff with coaching, with how he handled Kuminga going to the media and there seems to be no bad blood, and he was obviously invaluable during the loss of Deki. But while Steve coaches from the heart, I wonder if Mike Brown was the one coaching from the brain, and that's what we're missing.

[billinder33]

Klay... oof!

Kerr is basically responsible since he apparently thinks Klay is going to magically snap out of his season-long slump late in the 4th quarter of a close game against a top team. This is who Klay is now and Kerr just refuses to adapt to reality in the face of overwhelming evidence.

[superunknown]

Too much Klay hate for my taste.

A Raptors game thread is all about saying how they are getting screwed by the refs because the refs hate Canada.

Our game threads are all about hating Klay and Kerr.

30 mins - 4/14 -1/9

We get it, you are behind klay all the way. you may rest now. but in the meantime let us express the obvious . he and kerr are costing us games. if you don't see it, change whatever you are on and watch again.

welcome back steve kerr. i cannot wait to say bye to you.

goddamit!

ignore this troll.

[Frozzy]

Klay pouting on the bench before Kerr put him back in crunchtime

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[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Klays best is literally just streaky shooting. He’s a bad defender. Bad rebounder. Bad help defender. Bad off ball defender. Gets lost on defense. Loses his man constantly. Takes horrible shots which leads to transition points. Takes everyone else out of rhythm because they’re trying to get him shots.

Sometimes he makes some shots, but he’s still doing all of the above. He’s literally an anchor sinking the ship even when he makes some shots. Him getting 30 minutes is criminal.

Getting injured and getting old should not make somebody’s help defense decline. If you have dementia your help defense will decline but Klay is only in his 30s. Help defense is more mental than physical but bad stamina and lack of motivation could play roles.

Klay was once a very smart help defender. I can’t swear how good of a help defender Klay is now but I would have expected a bigger decline in on ball man defense than in help defense do to injury and age.

30 something Bird playing with a very bad back injury could barely move and was a horrible man defender but was still getting to the right places for help defense and was still a good help defender,

Klay should still be a good help defender.