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Post#61 » by Arlo » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:04 pm

Would still like a second unit ball handler...don't think Nico is our guy
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Post#62 » by parsnips33 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:05 pm

Are we seriously not gonna use the MLE? Lacob is so damn annoying I swear
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Post#63 » by CS707 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:06 pm

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I so hope they re-sign Schroder for the $100M he wants :)

Westbrook/Schroder
Bazemore/Matthews/Ellington/Monk
LeBron/Ariza
AD/Anthony/Morris/THT/Jackson
Gasol/Howard

(assuming they cut McKinnie and re-sign Schroder, Matthews, THT, and Morris)

That's an odd looking and old team.

Let us count the chuckers and players who need the ball ...


It's going to be a spectacle for sure... I'm just not sure in which way.


Honestly, three quarters of the team are injury concerns and half the team needs the ball to play the way they normally do, and while several of them WERE good defenders, defense tends to be something that fades quickly with age.

One thing is sure, a new group of players is going to learn the LeBron way of being a "teammate".


It looks like an utter disaster on paper. Westbrook and LeBron playing basically the same role, old, bad defenders, shaky outside shooting, etc. But sometimes that stuff just comes together in weird ways lol. I'm just a dude on a forum anyway though. I don't get paid to build a roster like LeBron and Rich Paul do.
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Post#64 » by FNQ » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:08 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Are we seriously not gonna use the MLE? Lacob is so damn annoying I swear


If we got OPJ or Bjelica with the MLE we woulda been happy
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Post#65 » by FNQ » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:10 pm

So because of the 200M tax bill, I get not chasing RoLo.. that tracks. I still think ORL has to move a big, but because of our bill, only way it works is if Looney goes out - the theoretical Oubre TE is not on the table

But I am a bit disappointed we didnt pursue Drummond for the minimum. Maybe Kerr didnt want Javale part 2, but Drummond is the best rebounder in the league, bar none. And its not like our C position is deep or uber-talented at this point.. spilt milk and all, but definitely disappointed
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Post#66 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:11 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Are we seriously not gonna use the MLE? Lacob is so damn annoying I swear


On who?
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Post#67 » by parsnips33 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:11 pm

FNQ wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Are we seriously not gonna use the MLE? Lacob is so damn annoying I swear


If we got OPJ or Bjelica with the MLE we woulda been happy


I'm willing to venmo Lacob $10 if we get Danny Green too :lol:
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Post#68 » by FNQ » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:12 pm

parsnips33 wrote:
FNQ wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Are we seriously not gonna use the MLE? Lacob is so damn annoying I swear


If we got OPJ or Bjelica with the MLE we woulda been happy


I'm willing to venmo Lacob $10 if we get Danny Green too :lol:


He might be a min signing too, but think we're pretty loaded in the middle (wings/forwards) but still could use an extra C and maybe an extra guard. Nunn would have been great, but thats sailed. Hill is now the ideal guard, but the best big is probably Chriss due to familiarity, but there's also Ed Davis as a fallback
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Post#69 » by parsnips33 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:13 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Are we seriously not gonna use the MLE? Lacob is so damn annoying I swear


On who?


Danny Green would be awesome. Beyond that, would be nice to see some urgency towards winning from management no matter who they spend it on, but I suppose that ship has sailed
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Post#70 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:15 pm

FNQ wrote:So because of the 200M tax bill, I get not chasing RoLo.. that tracks. I still think ORL has to move a big, but because of our bill, only way it works is if Looney goes out - the theoretical Oubre TE is not on the table

But I am a bit disappointed we didnt pursue Drummond for the minimum. Maybe Kerr didnt want Javale part 2, but Drummond is the best rebounder in the league, bar none. And its not like our C position is deep or uber-talented at this point.. spilt milk and all, but definitely disappointed


I love Drummond's offensive rebounding numbers but what else does he fit? He doesn't really run, he can't guard the wing OR the PnR, he's not efficient on offense ... I just don't know that he's worth a roster spot if he's not going to play much.

If you look at per36 numbers for Chriss 2 years ago and Drummond from last year Chris is reasonably close on offensive rebounding but is a much better fit.
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Post#71 » by FNQ » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:16 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
FNQ wrote:So because of the 200M tax bill, I get not chasing RoLo.. that tracks. I still think ORL has to move a big, but because of our bill, only way it works is if Looney goes out - the theoretical Oubre TE is not on the table

But I am a bit disappointed we didnt pursue Drummond for the minimum. Maybe Kerr didnt want Javale part 2, but Drummond is the best rebounder in the league, bar none. And its not like our C position is deep or uber-talented at this point.. spilt milk and all, but definitely disappointed


I love Drummond's offensive rebounding numbers but what else does he fit? He doesn't really run, he can't guard the wing OR the PnR, he's not efficient on offense ... I just don't know that he's worth a roster spot if he's not going to play much.


Defensive rebounding too, also has really solid hands. And while he's a bad help defender, he's good at man-post defense.. he'd be a bit player for sure, but one that's very unique and does a lot of things our other bigs cant
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Post#72 » by a8bil » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:16 pm

what I don't get is why we aren't signing Chriss...he started the season as our starting center until he injured his ankle. now he's persona non grata?
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Post#73 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:17 pm

"Westbrook, LeBron, Carmello go into a bar...."
2021/22 - The return of the Ring.
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Post#74 » by FNQ » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:18 pm

a8bil wrote:what I don't get is why we aren't signing Chriss...he started the season as our starting center until he injured his ankle. now he's persona non grata?


my guess is giving him a chance to find a payday/opportunity elsewhere, and we remain his safety net
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Post#75 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:21 pm

FNQ wrote:
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FNQ wrote:So because of the 200M tax bill, I get not chasing RoLo.. that tracks. I still think ORL has to move a big, but because of our bill, only way it works is if Looney goes out - the theoretical Oubre TE is not on the table

But I am a bit disappointed we didnt pursue Drummond for the minimum. Maybe Kerr didnt want Javale part 2, but Drummond is the best rebounder in the league, bar none. And its not like our C position is deep or uber-talented at this point.. spilt milk and all, but definitely disappointed


I love Drummond's offensive rebounding numbers but what else does he fit? He doesn't really run, he can't guard the wing OR the PnR, he's not efficient on offense ... I just don't know that he's worth a roster spot if he's not going to play much.


Defensive rebounding too, also has really solid hands. And while he's a bad help defender, he's good at man-post defense.. he'd be a bit player for sure, but one that's very unique and does a lot of things our other bigs cant


I just don't value individual defensive rebounding numbers.

As for the post defense ... who is he going to have to defend? AD and Ayton are too quick and the Joker is too effective outside. Not sure the need matches up all that well.
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Post#76 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:22 pm

FNQ wrote:So because of the 200M tax bill, I get not chasing RoLo.. that tracks. I still think ORL has to move a big, but because of our bill, only way it works is if Looney goes out - the theoretical Oubre TE is not on the table

But I am a bit disappointed we didnt pursue Drummond for the minimum. Maybe Kerr didnt want Javale part 2, but Drummond is the best rebounder in the league, bar none. And its not like our C position is deep or uber-talented at this point.. spilt milk and all, but definitely disappointed


Drummond doesnt belong anywhere near this roster, we already have a single level positionally locked high usage big on the roster we drafted 2nd overall last year, no need for two.

im fine with not spending the MLE, ain't no one out there really worth it anyways, especially with the tax bill he'll come attached with...not that i am worried about a billionaire's checkbook but I get it
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Post#77 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:22 pm

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a8bil wrote:what I don't get is why we aren't signing Chriss...he started the season as our starting center until he injured his ankle. now he's persona non grata?


my guess is giving him a chance to find a payday/opportunity elsewhere, and we remain his safety net


They may well have told him what they are working on and that he's on their list if he can't get more elsewhere.
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Post#78 » by WESCO » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:23 pm

Where in the hell are the Lakers getting this cap space?
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Post#79 » by FNQ » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:26 pm

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I love Drummond's offensive rebounding numbers but what else does he fit? He doesn't really run, he can't guard the wing OR the PnR, he's not efficient on offense ... I just don't know that he's worth a roster spot if he's not going to play much.


Defensive rebounding too, also has really solid hands. And while he's a bad help defender, he's good at man-post defense.. he'd be a bit player for sure, but one that's very unique and does a lot of things our other bigs cant


I just don't value individual defensive rebounding numbers.

As for the post defense ... who is he going to have to defend? AD and Ayton are too quick and the Joker is too effective outside. Not sure the need matches up all that well.


I usually dont chase individual rebrate but his adjusted rebrate kills as well.

He may not match up with the best, but he was an 88th percentile defender of the low block last season (and in the 80s-90s before) on a decent amount of attempts (about 7 finished possessions out of the post per 36).

In a 10 mpg role where he's highly specialized, I've got no problem with it. Plus if he's not worth it, just make the cut. Worth the risk
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Post#80 » by FNQ » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:27 pm

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FNQ wrote:So because of the 200M tax bill, I get not chasing RoLo.. that tracks. I still think ORL has to move a big, but because of our bill, only way it works is if Looney goes out - the theoretical Oubre TE is not on the table

But I am a bit disappointed we didnt pursue Drummond for the minimum. Maybe Kerr didnt want Javale part 2, but Drummond is the best rebounder in the league, bar none. And its not like our C position is deep or uber-talented at this point.. spilt milk and all, but definitely disappointed


Drummond doesnt belong anywhere near this roster, we already have a single level positionally locked high usage big on the roster we drafted 2nd overall last year, no need for two.

im fine with not spending the MLE, ain't no one out there really worth it anyways, especially with the tax bill he'll come attached with...not that i am worried about a billionaire's checkbook but I get it


We rostered Smiley for years, we can have a 2-3 month working tryout of the best rebounder in the NBA

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